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  1. 1 minute ago, Harry Stottle said:

    Why not LD,

    Wigan, Wire and Saints take Leigh lads in fact in the last 12 months Wigan signed 8 Leigh kids to their Scholarship whilst only taking on 2 from Wigan. So why in your opinion should Leigh be denied these kids and it is OK for our big neighbour's?

    That’s the way it is and always will be. Just the same as some kids will go from one side of Hull to play at the other side.  Chance of opportunity, chance to play for their favourite team, money, whatever.


  2. 56 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

    From his time at Leigh, I consider him to be an average player and I would question if he is SL quality, and I think that his signing by a club that is struggling at the moment and could do with an injection of influential players just goes to show how short we are in producing enough talented lads in this country.

    How do we produce more talented players the Harry?

  3. 1 hour ago, craig hamilton said:

    Cumbria, Lancashire and Yorkshire all play in the tri-counties competition every year but given the growth in other areas of the UK, why aren't more counties involved.

    I am thinking specifically about Northumberland / NE region.

    Any ideas?

    Write to BARLA.  I would imagine it’s is there’s and the RFLs interests to field a team.

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  4. 3 minutes ago, Dave T said:

    Yes, that could be seen as the case, but I suppose we could look at another extreme example of that. Say a ref blew up for interference and then on the replays the VR called a gouge that the ref had missed, we wouldn't ignore that (I don't think, but could be wrong on protocol) so we wpild still expect the ref to then act on the more serious offence. Maybe the same as a fight, where the VR will give more evidence and more may come to light. 

    I suppose it is a question of how accurate we want to try and get on the field versus how much we are prepared to leave to the judiciary and get on with it. My personal view is that I'm OK with the ref and VR reviewing, as I hated the on-report system which I saw as a cop out. 

    I’m against head high tackling and anything else that comes into it - knees to the head when a player is down, ‘axe’ type tackle across the neck etc.  Refs have enough to do but there will be errors -from both sides.  I think we have to live with these and accept it.  
    We cannot achieve perfect. 

    Tbh I’ve given up thinking of all the variables on this.  




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  5. 5 hours ago, del capo said:

    Fonua crouching ready for a good hit. I called this at half time as  'head on head' a few pages ago and got ridiculed.

    Now maybe other posters have  had a look and are thinking....

    Definitely not deliberate but in the current climate has to be a 10 min yellow. I expect the Discipline will agree and no further action necessary.......

    Sky punters and presenters up to their usual high standards of coverage on this one......

    Don’t forget he was carded for the ‘late’ hit.

    But if that is the case, this is where the system is weighted against the ‘offending’ player.  Punished for one offence but then after looking at it on video, punish for another.

  6. 58 minutes ago, Dave T said:

    Just watching it again, the ref says it's late as he bins him. Fonua disagrees and Kebdall says it is. 

    So it appears it's nothing other than late, which is a rubbish call imo. 

    If the criteria is that the player has passed (which on paper sounds fine) then we could be in some trouble. 

    But I think back to that Hull v Saints game where Griffin kicked off at a late hit after a kick which wasn't late and the ref said no penalty, despite the fact the ball had technically gone. The ref said that wasn't late, so it can't just be that not holding the ball equals late. 

    It all suggests that Kendall and the VR just made a bad call. 

    It remains to be seen what the panel decide whether it was ‘late’ or whether it was a genuine attempt to intercept the ball and there was a collision.  Fonua was very close with his left hand and maybe even got contact.

    Kendall was within spitting distance of Griffins try, yet went to the VR.   I found that strange.

  7. 36 minutes ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

    Lots on here seem confident of a Salford victory, or is it just wishful thinking. £1 on Salford would return £2.75 whereas £1 on Leeds returns £1.50. 

    You must have that wrong.  Betting £1 on each would bring in £4.25 therefore a profit of £2.25.  

    If you are including the Bet with the return that would be 1.75 profit on Salford and 0.50 with Leeds.  £2.25, so 25p profit, by betting on both.

    Which bookie is advertising that?


  8. 5 minutes ago, fighting irish said:

    I just watched the round one round up and i was blown away by it.

    I agree with those here who think they are on a different (higher) plane.

    Super League is great but in a one to twelve (SL) versus a one to twelve (NRL) competition I don't think we'd win a game. 

    I think Saints would do ok.  Maybe another but the depth in quality, between SL and the NRL, would show. In year 2, I think we would up the intensity and would do better but I doubt success would improve much more after, say, year 3.

  9. 7 minutes ago, Saint Toppy said:

    Just as well you don't sit on the disciplinary panel isn't it as there's absolutely no clear evidence of contact with the head, none at all. First contact with the chest, then the arm comes up and misses the head, exactly as stated by the RFl disciplinary panel.

    I hope you never have to do jury service, I pity the poor sod on trial if you can't even see something as simple as this and get it correct.

    Seems clear enough to me from the short clip.  If I’m wrong I’m wrong but I aren’t on my own I’m thinking Lees made contact.


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  10. 41 minutes ago, Bring back the Boyd said:

    How anybody can say leading with an elbow is not illegal is beyond me—- even in the days of the biff, this was obviously a penalty. In today’s vernacular, I would say it constitutes intentional foul play—- smashing somebody in the face with your elbow is obviously a dangerous action and obviously an offence whether you’re defending or attacking with ball in hand—- common sense. The review panel looks at every contact in every game—- I can only assume another camera angle proves no offence regarding Lees and King didn’t seem to suffer any injury 

    Lees seems to turn to his right, as he comes into contact, and at the same time lifts his left arm & elbow across.  Seems to me like a hit and spin movement but he gets it wrong.  The left arm and elbow definitely hit the Wire players head.  It’s a strange action all round.

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  11. 1 hour ago, Chrispmartha said:

    The Matty Lees one is in the report, they deemed no direct contact with the head - I'm really not sure what they watching to come to that decision.

    Yeah it is mate.  Missed that so apologies.  Either way I am very surprised it didn't warrant a caution for the future. 

    From the short clip, his elbow is travelling upwards.  Difficult to prove 'intent' so I imagine that is why no case to answer.  

  12. 4 minutes ago, Davo5 said:

    Leading with the elbow  can & often results in serious injury to defending players & should should result in long bans,this one was a shocker.

    Interesting that the disciplinary had already considered an incident involving Connor leading with the arm but deemed there was no case to answer.  I can only assume that the Panel had not seen this other incident or hadn’t had it reported.  

    If the genuine intention is to totally eradicate head injury, which I think it is, then the Powers that be need to consider evaluating this tackle and tackles like these.  If they do nothing then is it a case of ‘silence is consent’?

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  13. 1 hour ago, Tommygilf said:

    I don't agree on Oledski, he is massive and its all muscle too.

    He is but there is a big difference between a naturally big man and one pumped up with muscle Tom.  Not saying he’s an average player, he is above that.  

    Fifita is an example at Wakey.  Very wide hips, natural strength and individual tacklers can’t do very much with him.  

  14. 4 hours ago, Saint Toppy said:

    Bennetts Record as England Coach - Played 15, Won 10 Lost 5, with 7 of those 10 wins coming against lower tier teams like France, Scotland, Samoa, PNG & Tonga.

    Against the Top Tier teams (Aus & NZ) - Played 8, Won 3 Lost 5

    Then his GB coaching record - Played 4, Lost 4, Losing to NZ (twice), Tonga and PNG 

    Hardly anything to shout about

    Versus Australia and NZ, very few have England coaches have much to shout about.  But who’s shouting?

    You’ve miscounted again Toppy.  How many times?

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