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Posts posted by David Shepherd
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Are the NRL displaying a total lack of market knowledge here?
You'd hope that they are aware that the French teams generate no TV income. If they're relying on 8 UK teams to generate TV revenue, then this is going to be a spectacular failure.
Please don't read this as French bashing, I'm fully supportive of the concept. But the fact is that they do not contribute much financially to either of the competitions they play in.
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Glad I jumped on straight away. Headingley looks to be almost gone.
Brilliant strategy to create this buzz and one sold out venue before it goes on general sale is a great marketing tool for the other two.
Everton looks to be selling well and the block I'm in at Wembley only has a few left.
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Good news if true. We can’t have another year like last year.
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Need to put a shift in after London.
I'll be hanging over in a Vegas hotel, but my lads will be providing updates.
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£25 walk up seems reasonable. £20 in advance to encourage sales.
There aren't many folk left that don't have a smart phone or PC to buy the ticket in advance.
I would have thought that the majority of walk ups would be away fans anyway. Maybe we need to introduce a Bulls tax for when the only well supported club rocks up too
The young adult season ticket is a great idea and conveniently sorts out two christmas presents for me.
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Makes sense to relegate a "B", but only if they finish bottom. Maybe we need to introduce a points penalty for getting the wooden spoon to stop clubs fielding dross like Hull FC did this year, thus putting the "A" status in real jeopardy.
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15 hours ago, Bearman said:
When does a cultural ritual cross the line.
Yesterday the Samoan team performed their Siva Tau and I am sure the crowd enjoyed the spectacle.
The other team is expected to respect the ritual as it is THEIR culture.
However, did Gordon Chan Kum (GCK) cross the line by getting so close to Lewis ( ML) that contact with their heads resulted. ( I'm not saying who caused the head clash as because they were so close that either could have butted the other one..but, it GCk was that came so close that the incident occurred.)
I know it was just a tap but I'm sure that in a court of law or had it happened during the game it could be seen as an offence.
Surely it behoves that guest person performing his ritual to make sure he does not put his host in the position where he is uncomfortable?
I don't want to be a killjoy but I do feel that the whole palaver gives the " attacking" players a fillip whilst the "defenders " have to be passive. ( of course when the " defenders" have their own version they have the opportunity to do the same to the other lot. But the N. Hemisphere teams do not have their chance,,, BTW I am old enough to remember when EVEN the Australian RL team used to do a version of the Haka).
Am I alone in thinking that this incident was beyond the pale?
At the very least the coaches need to have a word
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Much better looking website. Glad they've removed the subscription element too. Past content needs to be free to ensure as many eyeballs as possible are on it.
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On 26/10/2024 at 14:11, The Phantom Horseman said:
https://www.rugby-league.com/uploads/docs/Grading Handbook (Final Version).pdf
Page 11-13 of 65 (plus if you really want to complicate matters, pages 38-57, where they explain to clubs how to gather the data).
The club did say to people at the start of the season that we could help by following them on as many social media platforms as posible (FB, Twitter, instagram etc) and by trying to "engage" where possible (eg by "liking" FB posts).
I suspect that at the moment our IMG score is not in a place where a concerted effort to increase social media following/engagements would result in any material difference to our ranking (eg upping social media following from 50k to 100k only gets you 0.05 points!) which is probably why the club hasn't emphasised it all that much at this stage. I think if we started getting into a competitive place on IMG scores then I'd imagine there would be more of a targeted effort.
Judged on our provisional score from last year, the area where we could improve by a chunk (1.5 points) is in the Stadium Facilities score, where you either get 1.5 points or zero, and you have to tick 9 boxes to get 1.5. But there would be a lot of work involved in that I'd guess, though perhaps the intention to build the boxes at the POR end is a start in that direction. Fincane is the other area where we might have scope for improvement you'd think.
I'd argue that Social Media should be high on the agenda now, and not just for IMG points.
We need to be all over Tiktok, Insta, Youtube, Snapchat, Twitter and Facebook with at least 4-5 posts a day, most of them just for engagement farming purposes (interviews, polls, lads training, daft quizzes etc). This is how we reach the next generation (not facebook & twitter, they're for old codgers like me. Young uns rarely use them).
You won't see instant results, but you need to be in people's faces all the time if they're going to remember you when it's time to spend £20 on a Sunday afternoon's entertainment.
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4 minutes ago, gingerjon said:
I can't remember the last time I was able to watch more than a few minutes of international (men's) RU. I seem to remember one of the last ones would have been a World Cup semi final (Wales v South Africa?) which was close on the scoreboard in the final minutes and one team needed a quick possession and they *walked* to the line out with the clock ticking. I switched off, deciding that if they didn't care then neither did I.
Women's RU seems to be decently entertaining in comparison, even if most games are uneven, and, on the rare occasion I make it to local club RU, I usually enjoy the game.
Was sat in a bar in Fuerteventura last week and there was a club RU game on TV (Leicester v someone, maybe). Wasn't the worst thing I'd ever seen, possibly a bit more entertaining than an international.
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Don't like football, bores the pants off me.
Will watch RU internationals if there's nothing else to do, quite enjoy a few pints watching Pontefract RUFC whenever I get a Saturday off.
Got quite into Gaelic recently
Used to love Aussie rules, but it's a shadow of the game it was when Channel 4 first showed it.
American football would be brilliant if it flowed better. Don't think I've ever got through a game without needing 2 haircuts.
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2 hours ago, Blind side johnny said:
Agreed. Have you seen how they are adjusting the benchmarks for SM interactions? This could make it such a challenge for the smaller clubs that they might be tempted not to bother.
TBH, I thought the current benchmarks were very low. My little micro business blows away the engagement metric with only around 1/4 the followers that Barrow have. (the only champ club I've seen that has published a detailed analysis).
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3 hours ago, haskey said:
Yes, POR but for what purpose.?
Winning the championship and 1895 are achievements in their own right.
There's bonus IMG points on the line and finishing higher up the ladder also gives us more points.
We can moan about the new reality all we like, but that's not going to achieve anything. The areas we need to work on are clear, it's up to the club (and supporters) to do that work.
Make sure you like and share all the club's twitter and facebook posts etc, it's a really effective way of both increasing the club's reach (and therefore hitting potential customers) and improving our scores that doesn't cost anyone a penny. Social Media is a numbers game, the more people you reach, the more engagement you get, which then gets customers to buy your product.
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7 minutes ago, Monkeymagic22 said:
To be fair, spending big money worked for Leigh and Wakey, it’s just that we didn’t recruit well enough.
They also spent more money than us and crucially, that money existed. We weren't even paying some of our players what they were owed. Agree that our recruitment was poor.
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12 hours ago, haskey said:
Yes George clubs know it is a business, but they are also 36/37 teams, 2/3rds of the teams dont exist as far as the other 1/3rd are concerned. All they are interested in is shelling Sky money out to pay for overrated Aussies hoping to increase their supporters.These 20 odd lower league clubs did have a carrot at the end of the season 1 club would go UP . Now that has gone and we are being run by big business , who could not give a stuff if the lower clubs survive despite some of them being in existence for over 100 years.
I have watched Rovers before we even had floodlights and have stood on our crumbling terraces in freezing temperature where volunteers swept the snow to the side lines for the match to take place. This was good old Rugby League where all the players were part time ,even the big boys and we all played in 1 division. Where the game was played for the supporters not some business or other.|This has now gone , so I concur with a lot of our mail bag entries that the game is dying.
That world no longer exists. I agree with George tbh (probably not a popular opinion to hold).
Fev's destiny is in Fev's hands. Grow the business and strengthen the club. We've just witnessed what a disaster a promotion push that we couldn't afford has been. Perhaps there is a better way? And I've never gone in for the conspiracy theory that the rfl/sky don't want us in the top league.
Not 100% convinced that the IMG points system is getting boxes ticked in the right areas, but it's something to work on. I'm prepared to give it a chance. Rome wasn't built in a day.
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Unpopular opinion (on here at least):
Catalan take 1/12 of the Sky money, despite Sky being unavailable in France. In 20 years, they have not managed to secure a financially significant French TV contract to throw into the pot. They get the benefit of large numbers of away fans without reciprocation. Their chairman has even admitted they need to contribute to the pot.
This is an entirely fair move by SL/RFL.
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The only glimmer of hope is the under 9s pitch at Bradford Municipal Dump. It's probably the only place suited to FordBall.
I'll be listening to the game, Bradford is on my list of places I won't spend my hard earned.
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7 hours ago, lingaro said:
Can't remember a scoot from acting half from Jones since he came back from Australia. Lacans managed it when he went off on Sunday and nearly went through. One of out potent attack weapons and he doesn't do it anymore. Coaching?
We're not using Jones properly. He's at his best coming on late in the 1st half against tired legs.
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37 minutes ago, Indigogo said:
That doesn't sound particularly encouraging, where have you seen that? I presume 2 of sides who have question marks are Cornwall (soon to be Bedford) and Newcastle. Then maybe Whitehaven and Fax due to the financial issues, however both clubs have come out with statements outlining ways forward. Who are the other clubs?
I'd imagine there is a huge question mark over the future of London following the loss of their benefactor.
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15 hours ago, Wakefield Ram said:
Looks like we've got you into play-offs by beating Sheffield 28-8...
Yeah, thanks a lot. Making us endure another week of this god awful season.
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14 hours ago, RugbyPowelly said:
Mate, as a Rams fan I can well and truly say you will beat us. You could tie your players legs together and still beat us
Don't know about that. Sheffield could have walked off the field and we would still have struggled to score.
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8 hours ago, Agbrigg said:
Yes looks like Fev are hitting a bit of form at the right time. Championship GF at Belle Vue against Wakey would be a packed house with a fantastic atmosphere.
And it would be classic Featherstone if we went and won it now that promotion is no longer available.
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I'm laid up after an emergency operation. Do French TV stream TOXIII away games?
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Was having a nosey at companies house to see if any of the alleged new investors have become directors of the company and/or bought shares. If they have, companies house have yet to be informed.
Was browsing through some documentation and found that we've borrowed money from Yorkshire Choice Homes against the land. Worryingly, if you scroll to page 24 of the document, there appears to be a plan for housing on all of the land that isn't the stadium & car park.
Edit: Access to the site appears to be through the land we recently bought on Station Lane. (Millenium House?)
NRL demands for investment
in The General Rugby League Forum
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Are Sky really going to fork out serious money to cover only 8 UK teams? If we're going with 8 UK and 2 French, then we really need to see a substantial TV deal coming from France, worth at least 1/5 of the revenue we get from Sky.
Playing clubs 3 times in a season is not only a bit boring, but also increases costs. Especially for the two French teams.