LeytherRob

Me neither, although I couldn't believe Cats didn't challenge it, i think that would have been a pretty swift overturn.

I wouldn't say that was self-induced. Lomax makes a pretty clear second effort on Yaha's arm as he is attempting to play the ball.

Phiggins isn't saying that they care about the health of the sport or want SRD to survive, only that they care about the product they are putting out - which ties back to your original comment that they couldn't care less about SRD's plight. They do care, in that they don't want one sided slop screened, mired in controversy, in prime-time BBC/Sky spots - which is why the actions Phiggins pointed out have been taken.

Yep, that’s why he’s had *checks notes* one disciplinary charge in over 12 months and only 2 penalties given against him this year. Bloody Trout, tackling too hard

A quick look on that twitter account shows it was starting in May 2025, has 0 followers and has 9 tweets, all relating to that one incident. Considering the fact that the tweets of this unfollowed account were up for mere minutes before you posted them on here and that they had single digit impressions - I'm going to assume this is your twitter account. If it is, you really need to let it go, this really is getting a bit unhinged for a game you won.

I think it’s highly likely both teams rest most, if not all key players. Both coaches have shown their preference in previous years and both have areas of fragility should they pick up the wrong injuries in the coming weeks - particularly in the spine for both teams.

I’m sure the 17 reserves and academy players playing on the Sunday(and Friday most likely for that matter) will be well rested for their trip to watch at Wembley

No he goes hard on all contacts, not just the 3 you and Dave are focusing on. That’s what forwards are supposed to do.

I mean, Dufty did lift his elbow and Trout did go off for a HIA. Are you suggesting forwards shouldn’t tackle backs hard?

We don’t know for sure as they no longer release the MRP minutes which usually give all the reasoning, but I would assume it was the Dufty one

Truth hurts I guess

Tai was a clear-cut incident, with a clear angle, the rest weren't. One of them on further review has been deemed it should have been a penalty by the MRP. It wasn't a slight bend at the knee, as much as you want to continue to deny reality - all images show he was bent to a heigh that would be attacking the midriff of an upright attacker which is exactly the technique someone should use (shoulder under the ball). If he goes any lower than that we'll be reopening the John Asiata debate from 2 years ago - mind you the Saints fans at least had the excuse of being sore from a loss for their obsessive crusade against legal tackles resulting in unfortunate incidents. Not sure what your excuse is. It is a semi-final game, it's played at high intensity with big collisions aplenty and accidents happen. No one was out to injure on either side and a hard tackle does not equal a reckless one. It's not a photo, its a low res screengrab. Trout hits below Thewlis' chin, against the ball, and Thewlis head rocks forward from the contact. This is from the start of contact and you can see Thewlis' chin is clearly above the shoulder of Trout. Ultimately, unless Josh Thewlis adjusts his positioning going to contact, he's going to have a short career because it's no coincidence he's on the receiving end of a lot of head knocks. Every single player involved in the Thewlis tackle (Trout, McNamara and Thewlis himself) had the top of their heads a couple of inches below the shoulders of surrounding players.

Moore was just following the very clear rules. Any stoppage in play that isn't HIA goes to green card protocol to combat the diving that was going on last year. The player either hands it off for someone else to play the ball, is substituted or receives a green card. The only cop out is putting the incident on report which avoids the need to either give a penalty or green card. In the case of Thewlis, once it becomes clear there is potential HIA the GC protocol is instantly abandoned, and the game is stopped. Would you prefer we went back to last year with players staying down after the slightest brush to the head?

Grab 1 clearly shows Trouts head and shoulder at the waistline level of Liam Moore, who is stood further away from camera therefore appearing smaller. Grab 2 gives absolutely no indication of height because it's a high angle with no reference points to make any determination. The fact you've chosen to put your own interpretation on grab 2 over the very clear evidence of grab 1 tells me everything I need to know. Grab 3 is a blurry mess that doesn't show where the initial contact was (it was body to body as it happens). This was all clearly acknowledged by Liam Moore, the video referee, the commentators. You meanwhile have already given away you haven't watched the game back. You really cannot make this up....

Thanks for going through the trouble of posting pictures that definitively disprove your original assertion that Trout was stood upright in the tackle. The top of Trouts head is clearly below the shoulder line of both Liam Moore (stood marginally closer to camera) and the Warrington player in grab 2 (marginally further away from camera). It also isn't a shoulder charge, a shoulder charge involves the defending player bracing their leading arm across their own chest to stabilise and strengthen their shoulder. You can literally see Trouts left arm wrapping around Lindop in grab 2. This is what a shoulder charge looks like

Such random designs... they aren't awful but there's just nothing in them to even suggest they're related to England other than the badge. When you compare it to the kit/training wear designs of Oz, NZ and Samoa on the same site it's night and day https://www.eliteprosports.co.uk/england-rugby-league/australian-kangaroos/ https://www.eliteprosports.co.uk/england-rugby-league/toa-samoa-rugby-league/ https://www.eliteprosports.co.uk/england-rugby-league/new-zealand-rugby-league/

The fact you are even asking that suggests you haven't watched the game back. I'd recommend you do because you'd be able to see for yourself that Trout was bent over at a height to tackle someone in the midriff(Liam Moore and Crowther either side of the contact make that easy to determine), he didn't make contact with the head on any of the broadcast angles(there was a clear rebound into McNamara's face) and the referee explained it all very clearly. He didn't tuck his arm for a shoulder charge, he was just stood side to side with McNamara. If you want to start penalising that you'll be handing out about 30 per match. He also wasn't stood upright, he lowered his height pretty significantly, his legs were bent and apart, his back was bent. The Dufty one is the only one that comes close to 'reckless' in that he didn't get his head out the way of the tackle and there was a nasty head on head contact. He'd lowered his height and his shoulders were in line with Dufty's chest. Ultimately he's had one minor charge by the MRP, which is his first in at least a year since they are the first penalty points to go on his his 12 month record. Trying to insinuate he was out to deliberately injure opposition players because he tackled hard is quite frankly, pathetic.

I feel like that bench selection was basically a reward for Hodgsons form and McNamara's performance last week, and possibly some worry about Armstrong and O'Briens return from injury. As I said though it was a half measure and something Lam is prone to doing (although it's really difficult to be picking fault with him considering where he has taken us as a club). Yesterday ended up being a repeat of the mistakes that got us found out in the March games when we were playing Davis and Dwyer on the bench. It's just too small once you get against the better packs in the league. Once everyone is fit, our bench needs to be Davis, Ofahengaue, Tuitivake and Hughes which gives good size and cover across 9-13.

Tuitivake was in the group of 50/50's to play so I assume he just wasn't quite as ready as the others - I agree though the selection was off and we needed the extra prop. It was a half measure decision from Lam snr to have Bailey Hodgson on the bench - either drop him or reward his form by keeping him in the 13. To not bring him on for Hanleys HIA just seemed really weird, we were already short having only 3 props and he put them all out on the field at once. It would have been much smarter to get Hodgson on who could quickly get through a bunch of carries, especially if you know Hanley is going to be coming back on.

Yeah he's a running standoff, not a scrum half and needs a Marc Sneyd type alongside him. We need to find a dominant half from Oz and get rid of Pene ASAP if the club truly want to be competing come the end of the year.

Congrats to Wire, best team on the day and thoroughly deserved the win. Thought Dufty, Vaughan and Sneyd were the difference. I've said it a few times this season but we are far to reliant on Lam Jr to create everything and if he doesn't have a good game, Leigh don't have a good game and today he stank the place out. Awful last tackle options, poor passes and a dismal kicking game. Our defence was uncharacteristically poor today, particularly considering it was a mostly full strength starting pack minus Halton. Liu and O'Neill had their worst games in a Leigh shirt and the less said about Jack Hughes the better.

You would expect so

It's less about social media and more about the nature of human interactions - threads drift off topic just like conversations do. How many times have you been chatting with friends and suddenly wonder how you managed to get onto a certain topic?

That’s literally the point of my post Harry

Yep and you can file it next to the opinions that the generation(s) following yours are lazier/have it easier/are ruder/etc etc. I have always found it genuinely baffling how little self awareness we have as a whole to recognise the clear and obvious generational patterns that get repeated time and time again.