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  1. 1 hour ago, JonT said:

    He was awful, you wouldn't want him back. Can we keep him? 😁

    Had a great game again. A key part in a couple of tries, solid in defence, always a threat when he gets rhe ball and has a hell of hand off. He's obviously worked hard to learn the Knights plays and he looks like he's been in the squad from day one. 

    But yes, you should come across and take a look for yourself. There's some great rugby happening in the Championship this year.

    I would love to if i was more local, im 3hrs drive away, struggle to get to many Leeds games these days with Work and the distance. Was planning to go to your Worky away game last week but work ruined them plans.

    Pleased to hear Levis playing so well..Errrm poorly. Cheers.

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  2. Edwards is one of the best talents to come through our system in years, he's been earmarked as something special since he was 14. Always been a backrow through his community clubs and our scholarship but centres probably a better bet at his age against men.

    Pleased he's had a good start with you.
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  3. 34 minutes ago, FearTheVee said:

    I don't think Leeds are a tough team.  I think they (and Hull to be fair) are a bit soft.

    The recent Out Of Your League podcast with Morgan Knowles had a quote from him is his younger days when he said: "I had to be good at the mental side.  I've never been the most talented but will do the things others won't - when games are tough I never look for an easy way out.  Other people will break before I do".

    I think when you watch Saints they have fostered this sort of attitude.  The coach has it in bucketloads.  They are intense, tough, enjoy the hard parts of the game and take pride in them.

    I think Leeds are poorly coached and a bit soft.

    I would have to agree, think we lack somthing mentally.

    The semi last year, whilst it was going to be a tough task regardless, we were beat before we took the field imo

  4. On 22/02/2022 at 09:12, Saint Toppy said:

    Leeds Fan creates fantasy team and fills it with Leeds players. SKS then uses fantasy team created by a Leeds fan to try and justify his endless claims that Leeds produce more players 🤣 🤣 🤣

    Whilst your right that im a Leeds fan, that its just my opinion and that it certainly means nothing in regards to how each club will fare over the coming years as SKS suggests, i certainly havnt picked Leeds players because they play for Leeds, all the players iv mentioned are in there on merit in comprison to there peers in that age group imo. The only one who i could see why people would think he's there because he's Leeds is Corey Johnson, but he is an exceptional talent at 9, all the other Leeds players have played well in SL and most are in international reckoning, be that Knights or full England, they're getting there recognition off more important judges than me. Saints have no doubt got plenty of excellent young players in there system, but if i havt seen them or know of them, i cant include them. 

     

    I know you were replying to SKS comparing clubs, but hopefully this thread dosnt decend into a my club vs your club debate, we should all be excited about the talent coming through at all the British clubs.

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  5. 13 hours ago, Agbrigg said:

    I can assure you Murphey will make a far better player. 

    No you cant, you can have that opinion and i hope your right.

     

    I tend to agree with you, he looks excellent, but i like to see how they transition to mens rugby before proclaiming them better than x,y and z.  Too many have failed to make that transition in the past unfortunately.

  6. 28 minutes ago, Agbrigg said:

    Which one, hope not Innes. He spent two seasons on loan at Wakey and totally hopeless in my opinion.

    Glad to see back of him. 

    Kershaw, not international quality but far better

    Murphy,  he could really make something, much younger but far better

    Yeah louis, should of been clearer.

     

    Too early to say Murphys better than Innes Senior, he's got loads of potential but barley played a first team game. Innes was also a very highly rated teenager once, like murphy is now, probably more highly rated than Murphy, if you think he's totally hopeless at 21 playing SL, then thats all the caution needed before proclaiming a teenager with no first team pedigree as better than someone with 40 SL games, who's still very young and learning his trade himself.

    Kershaw, i like.

  7. 32 minutes ago, Forever Trinity said:

    Isaac Shaw at Wakefield was on last night great prospect and Yusef Aydin another prop from the Academy both looking good prospects. Along with Corey Hall and Harry Bowes that played last night Wakefield have some very good talent coming thorough now.

    I like o'donovan from Wakey aswel, loads of good players just below the ones mentioned...All of which could overtake others over time. Corey Halls a case in point, at Leeds he was behind Newman and Broadbent who are both quality young centres,  then a year or two younger than Corey are Levi Edwards, although i prefer him at Second row, and Max Simpson, a 17 yearold centre who's very good, Leeds have got very high hopes for him, so Hall was behind 2 who Leeds think are better now and had 2  behind him that Leeds think are better prospects. So the move to Wakey was one of them deals thats just a good move for everyone

    Looking at the start of this season, Hall looks like he's going to play plenty of SL, Broadbent hasnt had a look in, Edwards is available for Duel reg with Fev but hasnt been used yet...So as of now, Hall looks like the one who's getting opportunitys to improve his game at the highest level, Which is what its all about for a young player. This time next year, Hall or josh Simm could be in my possibles team instead of Broadbent, if we continue to pick donkeys like Briscoe and Suttcliffe ahead of him, and Hall and Simm continue to get SL experience.

     

    Along with Levi Edwards, Baily Hodgsons the biggest talent not to make my teams imo, i rate Jack Walker highly and think Welsbys better again, but it Wouldn't suprise me if Hodgson ended up being better than both of them, he's that good...But again, the other 2 have done it at SL level, in big games. Not every young scholarship/Academy superstar can make that transition.

  8. 8 minutes ago, Spotty Herbert said:

    I agree that the volume of talent is very promising. Would Cas fans push for Jacques O'Neill to be included? I suspect some fellow Rhinos fans might suggest that Levi Edwards and Liam Tindall could feature at some stage as well. And while I think about it, any love for Umaya Hanley?

    Edwards could be as good, if not better, than any of them, at centre or second row. Only 18 though and has to prove it against men before i could put him in either team. He had a good start last season playing for Batley as a 17 yearold, scored 3 or 4 trys in as many games. Was between Edwards and Nicholson for my last bench place in the possibles, Nicholson is absolute quality aswel and doing very well in the championship at the minute.

  9. In old All Blacks style probables vs possibles, age 23 and under...

     

    Probables :

     

    1. Welsby - St Helens

    2. Young - Newcastle

    3. Newman - Leeds

    4. Wardle - Huddersfield

    5. Farnworth - Brisbane

    6. Pryce - Huddersfield

    7. Dodd - St Helens

    8. Oledzki - Leeds

    9. Walker - Warrington

    10. Havard - Wigan

    11. Pierce Paul - Wigan

    12. Gannon - Leeds

    13. Smith - Leeds

     

    14. Litten - HKR (Hooker)

    15. Holroyd - Leeds (Prop)

    16. Byrne -  Wigan (prop)

    17. Rushton - Canberra (Forward)

     

    Versus possibles :

     

    1. Walker - Leeds

    2. Senior - Huddersfield

    3. Broadbent - Leeds

    4. Wrench - Warrington

    5. Ashton - Warrington

    6. Trueman - Castleford

    7. Lewis - HKR

    8. Dupree - Widnes

    9. Johnson - Leeds

    10. Partington - Wigan

    11. Storton - HKR

    12. Longstaff - Warrington 

    13. Smithies - Wigan

     

    14. Thewlis - Warrington (Outside Back)

    15. Trout - Huddersfield (Prop)

    16. Scurr - Bradford (Prop)

    17. Nicholson - Wigan (Backrow)

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  10. 52 minutes ago, Magic Superbeetle said:

    I think Welsby and Dodd will be on everyone’s radars from Saints, and have rightly got the 1 and 7 shirt this year. But the next crop to come through will likely be Jake Wingfield (currently keeping Bell out of the 21 man squads) Matty Foster who played most of the year on DR with Leigh last year and impressed, Josh Simm, who played today vs Hull, but might be hard pushed to keep his place with Hurrell and Hopoate, and Pemberton, who might be a year too early for him, but is heir select at hooker to run alongside Lussick when Roby retires.

    Sambou, Martyn* and Baxter are also good prospects, though suspect they’re too far down the pecking order to get game time this year.

    *yes, Tommy Martyn’s son

    Hows Reece Sumner getting on these days, always thought he looked a quality prospect when ever we played your scholarship/Academy teams

  11. 2 hours ago, meast said:

    Who was the last fawned over Leeds youngster to really make the grade, to actually push on past the hype and become a really top player?

    They all seem to get built up after 5-10 games but never really kick on and become nothing more than decent SL players.

    The thing getting missed here is that Leeds academy was extremely poor for a long period of time, we only started to get things together again around the time of the Oledzki, Walker, Smith intake,  for years before that our recruitment was awful for the most part, the only 3 in recent memory before that batch, that i was sure would make it big were Watkins, Ward and Goulding...Ward and Watkins were excellent when fit, Goulding didnt kick on, but 2 out of 3 isnt bad... Sky comentators getting excited about someone like Jordan lilley isnt how id determine hype, he, and plenty others, were never going to be good enough. Suttcliffe done better than i thought he would when he got into the first team initially and had a good run at left centre in our 2017 title season, but he's just never had a position, even in the Academy, he'd play fullback one week then loose forward the next then everywhere inbetween, he just lacks certain attributes to play whichever or whatever position at a top class level. 

     

    From the intake mentioned, Oledzki is already an England international at 22 so he's living up to the hype, Cam Smith is starting go show his quality, England knights player and our starting 13 and Walker was doing very well before his 2 year injury woes.

    The intake after we had Newman, he's living up to the hype and Tyler Dupree who's the best young prop in the championship as im sure Widnes and Oldham fans would agree, he should be in contention for these young England teams people are posting because he's better than some of the props getting mentioned. Then your own Owen Trout who's played plenty of SL at a young age.

    The intake after that is the likes of Broadbent and Holroyd who are well on the right track, Broadbents an England knights player at 20 and Holroyds top class if he could ever stay fit, which is the biggest problem a lot of our youngsters have, they're always injured. 

    A lot of the excitement about our current youth are players like Gannon 18, Edwards 18, Sinfield 17, Simpson 17 who are a way too young to be making calls on living up to any hype, right now they're exactly where we'd want them to be, some of the best prospects we'v had in our system for years.

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