fighting irish
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51 minutes ago, rugbyleaguerunner said:
Absolutely no point in appealing as he, by the letter of the law, has been rightly punished.
Either the law needs changing or referees need to show some backbone an penalise players feigning injury to wind down the clock.
Credit to Wigan for their letter of support
As an overall comment on this incident, I travel miles and miles watching Cas, sometimes getting home at well past 2am because I love the game, the club I support and I get pleasure from it. This incident alone, and it may seem over the top, has seriously made me question if I will continue to do so
I've not given a great deal of thought to this issue but wouldn't you agree that it's impossible for the referee to know whether a player is really injured or not?
Penalising a player for feigning injury (when he can't know for certain) leaves the referee wide open to scathing criticism.
Surely the ''six again'' option can be used to discourage deliberate time wasting and so it should but I think the ''wasted'' time should be added on the clock as well.
It's colloquially referred to as ''injury time'' but the principle of adding time is equally valid whether someone is injured or whether someone is wasting time deliberately to run the clock down.
I prefer this combination of options rather than suggesting the referee should make a guess and punish a player, when he simply can't confidently claim the player is not in pain.
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1 hour ago, american said:
as an american (hence the username) we are no stranger to distances like that, which i think gives us more tolerance when some event/game/whatever makes us drive 3 4 5 hours. while having 5ish RL teams in the entire state of Florida is still lame, i don't think it's distance/travel costs that will hinder the sport here
what do you see as the major stumbling blocks to development there?
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48 minutes ago, Tuckaloy said:
As I understand it, the 3 being Cardiff, South Wales Saints and the West Wales Jets intended to play but withdrew due to not having enough players registered. A shame really, going forward, hopefully they can get sorted, especially with the larger number of junior players involved in Wales.
One of the things which bedevils development leagues is the almost inevitable gulf in ability amongst small numbers of start up teams.
It's in the nature of the game, that In a mis-match the losing team may not only get embarrassed by a large score but will likely get physically battered by the better team. This is a very real disincentive to continuing the struggle.
It's a catch 22 because the solution is to have more teams.
Then the disparity isn't so obvious, or so frequent.
We need to get to 20 odd teams (quickly) but the WRL seems hell bent on not overlapping the local RaRa seasons at either side of the RL conference. That's a hard limit on the number of teams and playing opportunities for would-be teams/clubs.
This is a folly.
Do you know, who is in charge of ''Development'' for WRL?
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1 hour ago, Gomersall said:
This'll never catch on. The action is glacial. Why T. F. are the stoppages so long?
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The website shows a picture with 8 teams represented, but only 5 have turned up to play this season.
What happened to the other 3?
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13 hours ago, Eddie said:
Maybe they’ve registered it for their women’s team.
Now now Eddie!
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Hear hear.
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36 minutes ago, dkw said:
Oh no...the big bad Internet man wants to fight me
I invited you to a debate. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
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1 hour ago, Click said:
You don't have to worry about me, it's you that seems in danger of some kind of aneurysm.
I'm sorry your team lost mate, but it's almost been a week now ...
Oh god, you've completely misunderstood my point.
I had no preference for which team won the cup, other than wanting the rightful winners to take it home.
I put forward an argument, an opinion as to why I thought both referees were wrong. Isn't that what this forum is supposed to facilitate? Discussion?
Anyway, along comes Johnny big bo.....ocks with his ''I'm right, you're wrong ....fact''. Without any justification for his audacious claim.
First of all, there's nothing factual about the rightness or wrongness of the decision, it's just the referee's opinion, which I say, was wrong. I merely invited him to defend his position.
It is a fact that the referee's chose to award the try and I've never disputed that but it's not a fact that their decision was objectively right.
My point was a philosophical one. (I hope that's not too deep for you?) Not a whine and a moan because (my) ''.... your team lost'' which you mistakenly attribute to me.
In addition, I was taken aback by the strident arrogance of someone who insists he's right and that I should accept his opinion without question, just because he says so.
Where I come from that kind of attitude would likely get your a....se kicked.
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18 hours ago, Click said:
Crazy for you to be calling anyone else arrogant with your posts in here basically demanding attention for your opinion.
you poor sausage.
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12 hours ago, dkw said:
It was pretty obvious that his intent was not to ground it, he was trying to shuffle it out. which was a massive mistake, as if he did try and ground it he likely wouldnt have given a try away. I think its a bit of a cop out for everyone to blame the officials making a mistake (which they didnt) rather than the wire players mistake (which he did).
It was pretty obvious...???? That is just about the most ridiculous comment I've ever heard you make.
It's laughable, nay hilarious. Ha ha ha ha.
So rather than convince me of the validity of your point of view, you've merely succeeded in making me reach for tissues to wipe the tears of laughter from my eyes.
No wonder you didn't want justify your arrogance.
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56 minutes ago, dkw said:
Pray tell what, they got the decision right, that's a fact.
Well I disagree, my old chum.
I was inviting you to back up your audacious claim with some reference to the rules of the game. Or perhaps to claim that the Warrington player didn't actually touch the ball down with his torso?
Or are you so arrogant, you expect others to just accept your ''opinion'' without insisting you conform to the rigour of accepting the burden of proof, normally required of anyone making such an assertion.
I thought not, when I invited you to do so, so the ball's in your court.
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I must admit I had to go back and re-read the earlier comments because I'd forgotten what it was all about. Anyway, no you didn't say anything funny. I was actually laughing about the other poster (who you were objecting to) not checking who was at fault before getting on their soap box and pointing their finger at the wrong club. I'm with you Jacksy, go for it.
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11 minutes ago, hunsletgreenandgold said:
I've seen it happen at Hunslet unfortunately. Without going into specifics we had an age group a few years back who had an awful reputation and the saddest part was they genuinely thought their intimidating and hostile behaviour was to the benefit of the club. Lines like 'they won't like it when they come to our place' and 'the ref wouldn't dare give a penalty against us' etc etc, were regularly trotted out.....by the kids and their parents. As I said earlier though, the coaches and GDMs set the tone IMO, so if they're not on it then the idiots are allowed to takeover the asylum.
Where T.F. is BARLA? Do they even exist anymore?
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13 hours ago, Hemel Rugby League said:
The first chapter in the guide would be very short but the most important one - 'Where will you Play'
When Hemel started in 1981 the local Council offered them the choice of 2 pitches:
One was the overflow pitch for the local ru club and offered potential access to that club's facilities and playing resources.
The other was on the other side of town and was actually a 130m long hurling pitch with 'H' shaped posts on it and little else apart from some dodgy changing rooms. Hemel rugby league chose that pitch as they wanted to be as far away as possible from the local rugby union club.
Today that site is known as the Pennine Way Sports Stadium and is controlled by the rugby league club.
Well done Bob!
Is this a hint, that you've started writing it, the guide?
Or is it your autobiography?
Well my old chum, I'm here cheering you on.
When we were starting up, you were such an inspirational character to us and you continue to be, even more so.
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9 hours ago, Copa said:
Some parents are crazy..
Great sign. I've been to Harbord so it brought back some very fond memories. I've got a jersey somewhere.
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12 hours ago, dkw said:
They did get it right.
Pray tell?
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53 minutes ago, Click said:
You should read the actual match thread when it occured, rather than a generic thread.
Ok, what will it tell me?
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2 hours ago, Dave T said:
I'd have loved them to have deemed it grounded too!!!
Me too. Possibly for different reasons.
I confess, I have half a dozen close family and friends, who have represented Warrington in the last 50 years but I saw myself as a neutral spectator for this match.
In my opinion, the try should have been disallowed and the game restarted with a drop out from under the sticks. It's irrefutable that the Warrington winger touched the ball down, with his torso. Therefore no try was scored.
I'm insisting it's absolutely undeniable. Not yet heard any HKR fans claiming (explaining why) I'm wrong.
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13 minutes ago, Dave T said:
The core point in the discussion is one for the match thread, but on the point in question, I don't think controversy will harm the game at all. Obviously it is not something you want, but controversy like this doesn't switch people off in any material numbers, there is no evidence to suggest it does.
People watching that game will have seen a blockbuster finish, with the heartbreak and jubilation that only sport can bring.
Fair enough mate. I'd just like to have got it right.
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I'll say it once and then I'll leave it but having our premier televised events decided on a refereeing error, in front of millions of viewers, is not a good thing.
How on earth the video referee can judge that the Warrington man didn't ''intentionally'' ground the ball (with his body (between chest and hips)) is utterly preposterous. There's no doubt he did touch the ball down, but the touchdown was disallowed because he didn't mean to do it.
What do you think he was trying to do? Break Dance his way to fame and fortune?
Great game, great spectacle concluded with a complete travesty.
It'll go down in history as a day of infamy.
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Yes matey, you are right but I think it's still worth doing.
I'm reminded of Sir David Brailsford, the former Head of British Cycling, who was known for his advocacy of "marginal gains," a philosophy that emphasizes making small, incremental improvements in every aspect of cycling to achieve significant overall performance gains.
Also, regarding MP's post we need to find the small minority of would-be participants (in new places) that do like what we have to offer, and sell it to them but even before we sell it to them (participants) we have to show it to them and give them time to develop a taste for it.
Going into virgin territory with a semi-pro club is getting the cart before the horse.
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Surely this thread has gone right off topic now. Isn't it about time it was moved to the politics thread. I can stop looking at it then.
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I remember Billy Connolly playing the pirate Billy Bones, in the muppet film treasure island.
''It's all great fun, till someone loses an eye''.
Like when you find out your little girl is getting free kebabs at the local shop!
Danny McGuire
in The General Rugby League Forum
Posted · Edited by fighting irish
Ha ha yes of course! Did you really think I meant it should be applied in that case?