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fighting irish

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  1. I don't know mate, but it looks as if we're moving towards the dark side to me.
  2. How come the ref allowed the Knights to push the kick receiver over the dead ball line, with 3 other attacking players trying to stop it. It looks like a bl**dy RaRa maul ! Doesn't he know that a second attacker in a tackle means he should call held?
  3. I hope the income from this venture is ''significant'' and might persuade the RFL to keep developing it as a rival to our (too few) alternative paymasters.
  4. Please don't be offended, you had the temerity to accuse another poster of wearing anti-saints specs so with a wry smile, I was giving you a smidgen, of your own medicine. It's laughable how many partisan fans in here consider themselves the only ''objective'' minds alive today, and everyone else as corrupt, foolish, bent, one-eyed, cross-eyed, drunk, or otherwise cognitively impaired. Do you really believe yourself to be impartial? ''O wad some Power the giftie gie us To see oursels as ithers see us!.'' Now to the facts. I just pointed out that you forget to mention that LMS deliberately hit a man while he was in the air (and should have had a yellow card for that too). Who knows what might have resulted, if he'd been ''in the bin, as well''? Banging on about the alternative outcomes of the other similar refereeing blunders may be classified as mere (and grossly unsubstantiated) speculation. Flights of fancy of that nature are hardly worth the time, unless of course you contrive to use them as a smoke screen for the real issue. Surely you agree, that of all the regrettable errors, that took place that afternoon the ''Makinson/Yaha incident'' was the most significant, and the only one, where we can be reasonably certain, that the correct/alternative decision would have changed the result of the match?
  5. You should take your rose (and white) coloured specs off Saint. You forgot to mention LMS veering to his right in order to deliberately hit Tompkins legs while he was off the ground. Or are you claiming that was an accident?
  6. The contact with the shoulder was extremely fleeting (I've already made this point). You are betting, that that was enough to push Yaha into touch. You just can't say that definitively, but that you make the claim, belies your feigned neutrality. At the time Makinson slipped over his shoulder, Yaha's upper body, hips and legs were not deflected from their (try scoring) path. It was the latter part, (the illegal part) of the contact, (much longer lasting) which provided the impulse to pull Yaha into touch. I'm not betting, but I am confidently asserting that Yaha had enough momentum (if not for the head shot) to get to the line (long before Naiqama got there) without, as you insist, having to regain his feet and running on. He would simply have slid over the line unencumbered. By the way, not that it's critical to your argument, but to suggest that Makinson could have ''recovered'' and stopped Yaha is, quite frankly, risible. Lastly, I don't accept that Catalans, were the underdogs. You are asserting that they were underdogs not me. I'm neutral. I just want the name of the worthy winners on the trophy.
  7. I agree with Dunbar on this. But, for the avoidance of allegations of bias I'll argue it like the Magic Superbeetle has done. Makinson's momentum (mass x velocity) was sufficient to propel Yaha into touch. In order to do that he needs to stay in contact with Yaha until he's out of play because the initial contact was insufficient. If Makinson's shoulder had stayed in contact with Yaha's elbow/upper arm, he would have prevented a try but it didn't. Makinson's shoulder slid upwards and only his bent/crooked arm remained in contact with Yaha's head forcing his head first and then (dragging) the rest of his body, over the touch-line. If you watch the tackle again, you will see that the time in legal contact with Yaha was a small fraction of the total time in contact and the much greater fraction (which propelled him over the touch line) was in contact with the head. So let's not ask, what would have happened if Makinson hadn't been there (which makes the whole discussion pointless) but what would have happened if Yaha was headless? In that case, Makinson would have flown over the top (and ended up in the stands) and Yaha would have won the GF for Catalans.
  8. Isn't this just great news? The genie is finally out of the bottle.
  9. Who knows? I like the idea of double-headers on a ''ladies first'' basis, as a family crowd-building initiative (we're not selling out at the moment) and I believe it will work in favour of the women's game also, if spectators (for the men's game) see the women's game and like it. It's also more likely to be televised (as a double header) so everyone's a winner. I really don't accept that putting them on first devalues the women's game. If the evidence suggests that a stand-alone women's final can draw the sponsors, the crowd and television company interest, let's go for it. The double-header initiative could help them get there quicker.
  10. That's great news. To be fair, your last paragraph is typical of my own experience. In reality the ''idea'' would be very impractical, and impossible to police but I was just trying to make a point. I just wish RL fans could rejoice in the fact that the game is amazing (compared to others) that they/we are lucky to have it, to enjoy.
  11. Of course you are right Johno' but its very difficult for newcomers (especially) to tell the difference. I took a mate to the Leigh v Toronto game in the Summer Bash and he said the football was great, but he would never go again. He felt intimated (put at risk) by the ''attitude'' and behaviour of some of (a lot of) the fans. Alcohol free, or family zones is a good idea in my opinion and I'd suggest some coaching by the clubs (of their fans) about appropriate behaviour on the terraces. Poor behaviour adversely affects newcomer's desire to revisit. It's a fact.
  12. If I was organising it, (the GF). I'd make it cheaper for people, who've never attended before and/or fans who declare no particular affiliation to any club. Then I'd keep them separate from the others, to prevent them from being infected by the overwhelming cynicism, envy, negativity, referee baiting and out and out neanderthal tribalism that is so prevalent amongst the existing ''so called fans'' of this great game. Talk about the need to break the cycle? We desperately need some new fresh (uninfected) blood, on the terraces and in the stands.
  13. I think it's arguable that Yaha would have made it to the line but Makinson's arm hitting his head was the difference between him (Yaha) being pushed into touch or not therefore, it should have been a penalty try. I also believe Maloney deserved some kind of retaliation, a penalty against him, ideally (when Matautia punched him) because he used the elbow/forearm initially but normally a retaliatory clean punch is punished with a sending off, (or at least a sin-bin). While we're at it, what about Maloney's kick to touch being batted back into play by a man who's foot touched the ground (out of play) before swatting the ball back onto the field. Oh and (here's one for unapologetic pedant) what about the last minute ruling against Tompkins for an incorrect 'play the ball'? There were scores of ''roll-balls'' throughout the game, but with minutes to go, suddenly it's a crucially important skill/rule (which just had to be enforced). I was disappointed with the standard of refereeing and I believe Catalans had the worst of it.
  14. Oh yeah? Well if that's the case, why don't you answer my questions?
  15. I think you might have really hit on something here. I wonder if it ever occurred to the SL clubs that more people might come and watch the game, (and have a great night afterwards) if only they played on Saturday! Holy cow man, you should write to them and tell them, they might be missing a trick here by playing on Thursday night! I mean Thursday night???? It's likely that the only people who go to watch on a Thursday night, live in the same street as the ground. No wonder crowds are down, compared to the old days, when everyone played on a Saturday. Do you think, it would help swell the coffers, if all the games were played on a Saturday?
  16. I should have explained, you walk under one and alongside the other!
  17. Aren't they just two versions of the same thing?
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