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fighting irish

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  1. 2 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

    There are links on this thread. You're the one avoiding following them whilst also, to be kind, repeating the kind of talking points that come via very specific channels of the kind usually used to hammer home fact free assertions that play to people's pre-existing beliefs.

    Round it up for me, cut and paste the links?

    I promise I'll read them. Then I'll respond as to whether I agree, they support your point (or not).

    I'm not avoiding them, I'm eager to read them, I just can't find them. I admit I haven't read every post in the thread, so I may have missed them but you could easily save me re-reading the whole thread, in an attempt to find the needles in the haystack, unless of course, you lack confidence that they make your point.

    Regarding your last sentence above, I just don't understand what you are saying?

    Please feel free to elaborate, if you want me to get it.

  2. 1 hour ago, Dave T said:

     

    I get the point you're making, however I don't think you've landed on the right conclusion. The youth will fully engage with social media rumours and gossip. Look at the likes of SportBible and those sites that regurgitate gossip with a new headline every day.

    I expect it's us slightly more traditional folk who are frustrated by the information vacuums.

    You might be right Dave. I have a high tolerance for gossip/speculation myself (probably because it's my sport) but the wait for confirmation is just agonising. We've been on about these issues, for months and still no real progress in the storylines. I just imagined newcomers, far less committed to the game than myself, might just think Naaaah, and find something more authentic / satisfying to scroll through.

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  3. 14 hours ago, dboy said:

    How's it going FI?

    I'm all good matey.

    Just looking forward to the upcoming WRL season.

    I'm frustrated with the lack of news (always am) in RL. It's 99% speculation and 1% drip fed news.

    Salford, London, NRL/RFL buyout, USARL, etc. All we've got is guesswork no actual data.

    Which is why I was cheering you on.

    The news pours out like molasses. No wonder the kids won't stay tuned. 

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  4. 38 minutes ago, Worzel said:

    Don't you start coming here with a load of rational, analytical, well-argued stuff. We've no time for it! 🤣

    I agree, most of what he says is total b######, I just like the core structure part and would like to see it. I think we've made huge progress in the last 18 months by focusing in the areas where we're strong and doing what we're best at, and would like to take the final step we need to take. 

    Which final step? What is it?

    Come on Worz' suspend the corporate wishwash for me, for a bit, for now.

    Please?

    Give me details, spell it out for me? I'm a mere rationalist. A Randian Objectivist, if you like. Keep it real?

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  5. There's something very suspicious about the hierarchy of U.S.A. Rugby League.

    Their repeated failure to get beyond the very earliest stages of development is testament to this opinion.

    My own belief is that they see huge potential (business potential) in the game and are determined to retain ''ownership'' as the game grows.

    Not for them, democratic processes, where each club has a vote in how the game is run. No Siree.

    They are so afraid of losing control of the golden goose, they keep it cooped up and in the dark, whilst starving the poor thing into a sickbed, every year/season, rather than letting it flourish naturally, terrified it might just  fly away and leave them bereft of this enormous amazing opportunity.

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  6. 3 minutes ago, Oxford said:

    Thanks FI it's always good to hear from you.

    Which side did you play for?

    Colin Dixon ah now there was a player and a half, I wonder if we could clone him?

    I played one season with Bridgend Blue Dragons, the last breath of the wounded and dying Cardiff Blue Dragons. I played with some of my personal heroes. Oh to be young again. 

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  7. 5 hours ago, Oxford said:

    The One and Only Dai W, FI

    A good one to choose when we're near the end!

    I thought it was him.

    I was in the Willows, when he broke the record for the number of kicks in a season. I was 16 years old.

    I just marveled at him and the game, in the sunshine, the sheer athleticism, the skill, the power (Colin Dixon).

    I've been hooked, ever since.

    Then! I played there, against Salford (can you believe it?) about 10 or 12 years later.

    A literal dream come true.

    We got totally stuffed. (The only consolation, was I won the tackle count bonus).

    Great memories of a great club. Long live Salford. 

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  8. 17 minutes ago, Gooleboy said:

    We've had Fulham FC, Brisbane Broncos, Richard Branson, Ian Lenagan, Harlequins RUFC, and others including the recent owner David Hughes who have pumped plenty of cash into getting RL going in London all to no avail, so what makes you think the NRL can do it when all these have failed in the last 40 odd years?

    Oh ye of little faith. 

  9. 8 minutes ago, Wilderspoolmemories said:

    I used to know Bobby when he had the Red Lion pub in Stockton Heath. He was a great fella.

    Thanks for saying so, he was a nice fella.

    He had a few pubs over the years, last of all the Howley Inn. 

  10. 14 minutes ago, Dave T said:

    The discussion was about the fact that we have used different approaches across clubs Toulouse, Catalans and TWP).

    I raised the point that we should have consistency across the French teams, Worzel positioned that it's reasonable to treat them differently. 

    If we believe that any of the suggestions knocking around lack integrity, then some people will absolutely believe giving Toulouse worse terms than Catalans is questionable.

    People often believe their preference is right and everything else is bad. I think its less clear cut than that.

    I want to think about this Dave, before responding. My first impression was that that was not the main thrust of his argument.

    I believed (I'll try and check) that he was saying that in principal, the French teams shouldn't be asked to pay the travel costs of the visiting English clubs.

    I think it is possible and reasonable to treat new incoming clubs differently to incumbent clubs if the ''benefits'' of membership have grown over time without being a scoundrel.

    His argument (as far as I understood it) was that the incumbent clubs should not have the right to impose different demands, on clubs that are already members, just because they can.

    Hence my comments about the dangers (nay the evil) of unbridled and unprincipled democracy.

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