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24 minutes ago, Futtocks said:
Adam, a contestant on this evening's show, was a touch-judge in Albania's first ever Rugby League international, apparently.
Erm.....having rewound the episode back ,Adam just said Rugby, so could be either code.
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11 minutes ago, meast said:
It could also be that people just can't afford or justify paying out nigh on £200, as much as I would love to attend a packed out final, we have to be realistic, it's not cheap and the cost of living has gone through the roof.
Spot on, poverty doesn't hit any particular sport, I bet Huddersfield Town fans are equally afflicted. How many of their fans going ? 10,000 tops, Wembley probably be half empty........I think
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Nothing against Everton but please please get relegated, I want to see Agent Rafa celebrating.
" doing the hoovering, bumped into the television and Richarlison fell over!" Gold!
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On 16/05/2022 at 09:10, bulldog_paddy said:
Hi NE,
Sadly correct, 8 years now ( i think) as you know though the community game keeps trying to shoot through hardworking volunteers. I believe Newham Dockers are still going, Brentwood of course are proving a match for all in their step up to the southern conference, Eastern Rhinos in Colchester, Canvey Knights on the "white Isle" off Essex and a gaggle of over London community clubs. Sometimes can be hard to find the up to date local club but most in the know here should be able to give you pointers with your postcode @HawkMan
Thanks, shame they've gone, Brentwood is easy for me to get to,I'll check them out.
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8 hours ago, EastLondonMike said:
Sad to hear, and I've often wondered over the last few years whether i will come to a similar conclusion at some point.
I was a born and bred avid west ham fan from a kid to my mid 20's, and it became apparent to me that the clubs own ambitions didn't match that of many of the fans, myself included. So I walked away, and from football also. It took a few goes, and I was pulled back in on a couple of occasions, mostly out of loyalty, but eventually enough was enough.
In the end of course West Ham did show ambition, playing in a 60,000 seater stadium and gallivanting off to Europe.
BTW the Hammers qualified for Europe again today, so your ex fellow fans are having a cockney knees up.
BTW I've just discovered a local to me RL club, Hainault Bulldogs, anyone seen them?
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What's the difference between picture above and below?
Answer is nothing!
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Well good luck to the guy, but I was hoping for Steven Toast, below, looked good !!
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Re- posted;
On another thread Harry Stottle has posted that Leigh have 4 games of significance left of the season, 1895 final, Fev, Bash and GF. 4 left and it's still early May! That's the problem, not enough meaningful games to bring in crowds. Not wishing to turn this thread into something else, but if we had 2 down from SL , then suddenly Leeds and Wakefield and Toulouse have many more big games to play to entice the fans. One automatically up from Championship and a four team play off for the other promotion place, as in Soccer's Championship and suddenly the season goes to the wire for most clubs. Perhaps the age old concept of fans turning up to see a good old game of RL for the sake of it despite the context are drawing to a close.
Attendances towards the end of the season for soccer for teams in play off contention have been very good. 44,000 at Sunderland the other night, another 35,000 plus expected tonight at Sheffield Wednesday. Give fans of RL matches with real meaning and they'll come back. Of course turkeys don't vote for Xmas so I don't expect 2 down from SL any time soon.
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On another thread Harry Stottle has posted that Leigh have 4 games of significance left of the season, 1895 final, Fev, Bash and GF. 4 left and it's still early May! That's the problem, not enough meaningful games to bring in crowds. Not wishing to turn this thread into something else, but if we had 2 down from SL , then suddenly Leeds and Wakefield and Toulouse have many more big games to play to entice the fans. One automatically up from Championship and a four team play off for the other promotion place, as in Soccer's Championship and suddenly the season goes to the wire for most clubs. Perhaps the age old concept of fans turning up to see a good old game of RL for the sake of it despite the context are drawing to a close.
Attendances towards the end of the season for soccer for teams in play off contention have been very good. 44,000 at Sunderland the other night, another 35,000 plus expected tonight at Sheffield Wednesday. Give fans of RL matches with real meaning and they'll come back. Of course turkeys don't vote for Xmas so I don't expect 2 down from SL any time soon.
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24 minutes ago, DoubleD said:
Sounds like the same counting process Tower Hamlets use for election results
I've looked at the youguv report. JonM misread it, 9% of those who said they had a favourite football club said Liverpool. Plenty I'm sure don't follow football or sport at all. So it's 9 % of those who expressed a preference said Liverpool which sounds right. Not quite 9% of the whole country or London.
The relevance to this topic was I pointed out Liverpool and Manchester City fans travelled hundreds of miles with no direct trains to get to a semi final. It's a question of fan dedication whatever the sport, also context, Wigan and Saints meet 4 or so times in SL, those matches mean more to fans obviously. What about the GF winners and CC winners joining top two of NRL for a four team World Club Challenge, might spark CC interest.
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23 minutes ago, JonM said:
Liverpool have approximately 4 million fans in the UK. Man City have approximately 1 million. Liverpool have approx 900k fans living in London alone. It's not remotely comparable.
Greater London population 12 million ,900k Liverpool fans? That's 7.5 % of the whole population of London are Liverpool fans?.
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27 minutes ago, Eddie said:
You don’t think the significance of the FA cup has hugely declined then pal? Well ok, if you’re a teenager and don’t know anything about football history.
No I'm 61, I didn't say it hasn't lessened in importance , but at least supporters can still get off their backsides to get to a semi final hundreds of miles away, even when both clubs have bigger targets.
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38 minutes ago, Eddie said:
Maybe the decline of the FA cup has had a subconscious effect on the challenge cup in people’s minds.
Yep, the FA cup in such decline that Liverpool and Manchester City semi at Wembley for two northern teams, when there was railway engineering works and no direct trains, drew a paltry attendance of er...80,000..oh sorry should have thought a bit more before posting.
So football is so dominant that RL fans think, if football fans don't go to their semis ,( even though they do) , then we won't go!! Eddie you are a wonderful comedian take it up professionally.
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37 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:
Since it went off FTA it has declined imo, as has the rest of the Champions League.
Are you sure?
700 million tv viewers for CL vs 112 million for Super Bowl.
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Rugby League fans do have trouble with events held at Football stadiums that hitherto have caused no problems for hundreds of thousands of others over the years. But it's not our fault. Before making pronouncements about whether White Hart Lane or Anfield is world class, those people claiming that they are should ask if it can hold a RL event.
Rugby League is the true world class game and a stadium should be able to hold a RL event to gain world class status. The Jungle can hold a satisfactory RL event, Anfield Elland Rd and probably WHL cannot. Therefore The Jungle is world class and Anfield WHL Elland Rd aren't. QED!
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7 hours ago, Tommygilf said:
I'd agree with that assessment. Leeds need a miracle result or 2 against Arsenal and Chelsea.
Don't worry about Leeds getting relegated. Leeds bring big crowds and glamour to the PL, Bournemouth just got promoted and there is already two teams on the South Coast and Bournemouth have a cr#p stadium, so they'll be kept back and Leeds will be given a reprieve. Only joking! No serious sport thinks along those lines.
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So not altogether a successful English/Scottish Euro week.
Liverpool should be okay, but Man City may have blown it despite winning 4-3. West Ham and Rangers lost and Leicester dew. My guesses for the finals,
Liverpool vs Real Madrid
West Ham vs Leipzig
Roma vs Marseille
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2 hours ago, Fevrover said:
but Thursday night doesn't help.
I don't get this "Thursday is a problem" malarkey. RL is played in a pretty small geographical area. If Chelsea fans can get to Old Trafford on a Thursday, and Glasgow Rangers fans to Leipzig then surely getting to Wakefield isn't a problem.
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Those with delicate eardrums DO NOT click on. The thrash metal onslaught of Ministry.
Spoken:]
You know, they say it takes a whole pack of wolves to take down a moose 'cause one on one that moose would smack them down. It's like being in the music business: you got your managers, your ex-managers, your ex-bandmates, your ex-labels, your ex-wives, your lawyers, your tax attorneys... Hell! That sounds more like a pack of hyenas to me.You know, I was once told by an ex-manager, "Son, you're worth more dead than alive 'cause when you're dead we can sell you off in pieces." That's the way it works around here.You don't believe me? Why don't you try asking Jim Morrison Or Jimi Hendrix or Janis Joplin Or Kurt Cobain or Amy Winehouse. I'm pretty sure they're gonna take my side of the story. Sometimes I think they're the lucky ones. They don't have to deal with these douchebags 'cause they're already dead. But I'm not dead yet!You vultures want me dead
What's up with that?
You make more money off the carcass that is dead
What's up with that?I'm not dead yet [8x]Ghouldiggers
Vultures and thieves
Ghouldiggers
Shrouded in their greed
Ghouldiggers
They're always after me
Ghouldiggers diggers diggers diggers diggersYou vultures strike it rich
What's up with that?
There's just one little hitch
I'm not dead yet
And that's a factI'm not dead yet [8x]Ghouldiggers
Vultures and thieves
Ghouldiggers
Shrouded in their greed
Ghouldiggers
They're always after me
Ghouldiggers diggers diggers diggers diggers[Spoken:]
— Hello, Ghouldigger management. Can I help you?
— Eh, yeah. I'd like to speak to my manager. Please.
— And you are...?
— My name's Al Jourgensen from the band Ministry and just wanna speak to my manager.
— Am, let me check and ... then. One moment, please. I ... hold.
— Dammit, they put me on hold again! What is wrong with these people? What is the major malfunction?You never return my calls
What's up with that?
No word from you at all
What's up with that?I'm not dead yet [8x]Ghouldiggers
Vultures and thieves
Ghouldiggers
Shrouded in their greed
Ghouldiggers
They're always after me
Ghouldiggers diggers diggers diggers diggers[Spoken:]
— Hello, Mr Jourgensen. I'm so sorry to keep you on hold. Ah, your manager is actually on a call at lunch at the meeting on vacation out of the country. However he did leave the message. He says to please call back after you're dead.
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42 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:
Watching the snooker the other day, the honours board of past Champions is in view when player's are being interviewed, not one of them has been Knighted but plenty OBE and MBE's, so is this another sport that has been dealt a disservice? I would hazard a guess that since Pot Black first hit our screens and moreso since the World Championships went to The Crucible 45 years ago in 1977 and got saturation FTA television coverage that there are far more Nationally famous people in Snooker than RL can boast in the same timescale. Not that I am saying RL player's should not be awarded the honour, but when spoke about in comparrison to the number of people who are actually aware of the Snooker player's as opposed to our RL performers it is understandable.
That is 100% right Harry. Take Sir Steve Redgrave, rowing is a minority sport but he is a Nationally known figure, thanks to our success in Olympic rowing. Or Sir Jackie Stewart, F1 though immensely popular I would still classify as minority sport, but he is known nationally. Knighthoods for local people are awarded for such fine achievements in Industry or Charity, service to community, sports Knighthoods for nationally recognised people even if their achievements are not necessarily National ones.
If England win two World Cups this year, RLWC and FIFA , I expect Wane to get a OBE or MBE, Southgate though will be knighted.
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Gary Neville slams " broken" Man Utd. I saw the game, it was the worst United performance I've ever seen. Sympathy for Ten Haag if he takes job, he really shouldn't bother, his reputation will be damaged unless the Glazers do a Volte Face and invest in a whole new team.
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8 minutes ago, RigbyLuger said:
It will be interesting to see how the Women's Euros sells, with similar issues over numbers of games in small area (7 or 8 between Sheffield and Rotherham) and with a far higher marketing budget and media coverage.
Here's the answer
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1 hour ago, Eddie said:
A lot of European football Leagues (Bundesliga being the prime example) get huge crowds, even when the winner is certain before the season kicks off.
Only really Germany and France, the other leagues are quite competitive, particularly Italy that now seen a resurgence in both Milan teams. Anyway in football there's European places to play for not just the title.
More pertinent comparison is the worrying Huddersfield Giants situation. Doing great this season, very entertaining, but crowds disappointing compared to HTFC, who got 18, 379 last night. Don't know why, I tried watching it but it was very poor and dull.
What's the difference between picture above and below?
Thu 19th May: SL: Warrington Wolves v St Helens KO 20:00 (Sky)
in The General Rugby League Forum
Posted · Edited by HawkMan
Tel " looked an okay pass to me"
Baz "I thought it was forward, but it doesn't matter what we say Bill"
Never a truer sentence said.