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HawkMan
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In the NFL there's no relegation, never has been, never will be, so everyone knows where they stand.
But under IMG proposals , there might be or might not. Bottom team might go down or might not. 11th might or might not.
Fans going to games ;
" we've just seen our team save themselves from the drop, or might not have."
" got my tickets for the big relegation 4 pointer, or it may not be, dunno "
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16 minutes ago, gingerjon said:
Sky promote their sports with those sports and events selling points.
Who gets relegated from The Masters in Augusta?
Well I could be pedantic and say there's stories about players failing to qualify for The Masters and players failing the cut at halfway.
But yeah, Sky will have to forget about bigging up SL relegation because of the haziness and uncertainty and concentrate on the top part. That's what it's all about after all, so long as they're happy that.
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34 minutes ago, Hull Kingston Bronco said:
This doesn't get enough attention. They will have been consulted throughout. That's not to guarantee an improved contract, but I think we can be pretty certain we'd be on dangerous ground if we'd voted 'no' yesterday. Sky sent a very strong "get a new vision or this might not work out next time" message at the last TV deal. This whole process, from looking at Private Equity, to the Hearn nonsense, then into IMG all started as a result of that.
I asked that because currently Sky are bigging up the P+R in football, quite rightly, who's coming up from Championship, who's getting relegated from EPL etc, all down the leagues in fact. They're sort of able to that with SL now though Wakefield means there's not much mystery as to who's going down. From 2025 will Sky be able to big up a tasty relegation 4 pointer if gradings are a factor not yet determined.
Brian Carney " well there you have it an exciting battle at the bottom, Salford lose big match and could be down, they're hope is Featherstone don't get the stadium improvements done in time, and their fan engagement figures fall short, we'll keep you posted."
Doesn't quite have the same " zing" as straight ,lose and you're down.
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Is it possible that Sky might have been consulted about the proposed changes? They're important partners, and they surely must consider these changes as a factor in renewing contract.
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Latest Sparks single from forthcoming album. The Girl Is Crying In Her Latte, with Cate Blanchett in video.
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You can use Men's foundation make up cream, as women do, to cover up blemishes. So if it's possible to shave daily and not aggravate the boils, then cover them up.
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The point of these sort of mergers between broadcasting giants is to increase their spending power and bid for rich pickings hitherto unattainable. So Sky might find a serious rival for Premier League when the next bidding comes round.
As for RL ,if anything it might make Sky determined to keep RL in case their output drops in the future. So RL might become more valuable to them, so good news perhaps.
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Winners, Saints, HKR, Leeds, Huddersfield, Salford, Wigan
Most Points, Leigh v Leeds
Least Points, Saints v Warrington
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25 minutes ago, Damien said:
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14 minutes ago, Dunbar said:
I don't want this to be moved to the conspiracy thread but it is very suspicious that the government knows there will be an emergency at that exact day and time.
New World Order Lizard People.
Perhaps it's a government and K+C conspiracy to undermine RL at precise kick off time. Just a coincidence? NO WAY
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Sorry if this has been covered before, but I'm not rereading 92 pages, but if in some future season we have a SL of 11 Cat A teams and 1 Cat B, does that mean the Cat B team is doomed before even the first game? No matter where they end in the league they'll be in danger of relegation. Depending of course on who wins the Championship , so they might be okay. Is this right or have I got this wrong ?
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You can opt out if you wish. Go to settings and Notifications, then scroll to emergency alarms and turn off. Also if your phone is off you won't get alert.
My phone is set to Special Emergency Alert. If either of my two teams, Warrington or Tottenham Hotspur get relegated the phone screeches. I expect it hear it this time next year.
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If they are trying to get back to SL in 2025,then surely being Category A is most important, who cares about what happens on the pitch.
Get the stadium up to standard, a big catchment area, biggest city in England without a football league club. Tick all the boxes, and get invited back as cat A club. Welcome to the new world of IMG.
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Man Utd 2 up with 10 to go, then Maguire comes on, scores an own goal and it ends up 2-2, got to feel sorry for him. Not his fault for first goal, also own goal, but he's in the negative headlines. Final nail in coffin for his OT career.
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In the light of Old Trafford missing out on hosting matches at Euro 2028 if U.K and Ireland bid is successful, because of possible ground improvement work, which must be embarrassing, should we look at finding a new home for the GF ?
Shouldn't the game's showpiece event be held at a modern stadium, OT is frankly hardly fit for purpose at present, and as we don't need a 75K seater stadium I'd suggest The Etihad or Emirates. I was going to suggest Tottenham Stadium, but of course there's not enough coach parking spaces in the unlikely event Leigh get there, only joking!
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Winners, Salford, Catalans, St Helen's, Leeds, Warrington, Leigh
Most Points Leeds
Fewest Points Hull
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2 minutes ago, OnStrike said:
Without meaning to derail a thread about Sky Sports, that is terrible a idea/reasoning/analogy.
Harry Stottle may not take a train but does the nurse who looks after him in hospital use one to get to work? The teacher to the school to teach Harry's kids? The building materials by freight train Harry uses to build his house? The policeman to the police station who responds to an emergency on Harry's? Etc etc
Apart from that, if Sky only charged for the sports you watched, ie a different cheaper package if you only want RL, then minority sports would be in dead trouble.
People say and no doubt resent a fair chunk of their subscription money going on say football, but it works both ways. If footy fans were offered a football only package, most or a fair chunk would take it up, leaving less money for other sports. I know footy fans who say the same as RL fans, " bl00dy expensive subs, how much of our dosh goes on sports we don't care about."
So ,a healthy Sky , subs driven up by more football means more money for Sky and less reason to drop other sports.
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28 minutes ago, Damien said:
And it's their fault they don't have them, not geography. Their own greed has caused the predicament they are now in. I remember the time when Italy had very much the dominant, glamour league with easily the most money. Spain too with Barcelona and Real Madrid always loaded but they were always more concerned with scooping up all the money rather than developing the league as a whole. Thankfully English football took a different path.
Totally agree, that's what Ceferin was alluding to. I mention geography because that's why Barcelona, Real etc can't get hold of PL riches. D' oh obviously.
The thinking behind the ESL failed project I'm guessing was, can't beat them join them. A new league with 6 EPL teams, get rid of the Aston Villas, Brightons etc and replace them with big European teams and all that money will come their way. Thankfully it's not going to happen.
UEFA have responded with a new Champions League format starting season after next. One group of 36 teams, 8 matches each, fixtures decided by Co- efficient ranking, then top 8 through to knockout round straight away, positions 9 to 24 play off for other 8 places. It could just work, oh and the BBC showing highlights, so interesting times ahead.
At present I'm enjoying Huddersfield vs Blackburn, then watching Wrexham v Notts County, should be a five figure crowd for that, virtually a title decider.
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13 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:
Its been great to have so much RL on Sky this weekend. Could a dedicated channel come?
We have 5 main top tier sporting packages: Super League, Womens Super League, NRL, Challenge Cup and Internationals. Up to 6 Super League games a week, plus up to 8 NRL. There's also the Championship, League 1 and other lower tier comps in France and Australia potentially.
Could some, if not all of these be the basis of a dedicated channel like SS Cricket/Football/Golf/F1?
If the audience is worth it I'd hope it was something that could be considered.
Firstly it would have to be a " both codes" channel, as RL doesn't drive subscriptions, nor does Union tbf.
It's easy peasy to see what sports drive subs, the sports with a dedicated channel. Football, Cricket, Golf and F1. Yeah Golf!! Can't stand it myself, but it's incredibly popular. So no I don't think a dedicated rugby channel will happen.
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Just now, gingerjon said:
That used to be the case but I'm fairly certain - not that I've been checking overly - that it seems more often they just fling on Sky Sports News and have live updates from the Champions League games in a sort of Soccer Saturday approach.
On SNN Yes, but usually as Tommy says, it's Championship games on SS Main Event and SSFootball, and often with all the nights matches available via red button.
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It's possible new subscribers will sign up to Sky, fans of League 1 and 2 soccer teams, attracted by more lower league matches, including from places near RL heartlands, who like both sports thus adding to RL viewing figures. Places such as, Hartlepool, Grimsby, Harrogate , Stockport, Bolton Morecambe etc.
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Considering the huge amount Sky are willing to pay to retain the EFL contract, 200m per year ( see below), I don't think RL will be affected, it's loose change to continue with RL, plus a dedicated audience, and they need a summer sport.
https://theathletic.com/4376250/2023/04/03/efl-sky-sports-tv-rights/
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Game of the weekend so far.
Should GF Stay at O.T.
in The General Rugby League Forum
Posted · Edited by HawkMan
Harry Maguire is certainly a big unit, maybe he could switch to League, he certainly has forgotten how to play football.