Young Blood
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6 hours ago, Londonbornirishbred said:
Soccer will always be most participated as it's easiest to play for younger kids and parents rather them play that then risk injury in contact sport. Majority of those players have no intention of choosing it as a pathway, my nephew plays soccer as his parents put him there he tells all they talk about during training is nrl, he wears his Souths jersey to soccer training!
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I think NRL can really work in Perth it wont dethrone AFL but no reason it cant be a success, 17 team comp wont last long the 18th team should be Perth.
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Melbourne have most members
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19 minutes ago, Dirkgee said:
There are NRL fans who say the same thing. This phenomenon is common with all sports, it was always better before, never now.
So many NRL fans won't shut up about how the game was better 30 years ago. God help you if you come across a Sydney man over 50, who will regale you with tales of how the NSWRL was actually the height of Rugby League and it's never been as worse as it is now.
Victorian AFL fans do the exact same thing with going on about how much better the VFL was.
Formula 1 fans never stop gushing about how much better it was in the 80s and 90s despite the fact nothing happened and no one could overtake.
Im convinced it's all nostalgia, it wasn't better they were just younger so grew up to watch the sport in a certain way and when it changes, they get angry.
I get that phenomenon in all sports but most people I speak like the 6 again rule while the afl fans I speak seem unhappy about the game saying it was better 5 years ago
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33 minutes ago, Sports Prophet said:
I can tell you there are tens of thousands of AFL fans that may not be turning off, but equally dissatisfied with how the sport is played and officiated these days. Me being one of them. A steady decline over the last ten years which has steepened in my opinion in the last five.
The AFL certainly have far bigger challenges than the NRL in this regard and they appear harder to solve than when the NRL has them.
Just curious has the level of play diminished in terms or new tactics employed by coaches make it less entertaining, what in particular has made many afl fans upset?
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39 minutes ago, Sports Prophet said:
understanding your point also, I disagree, believing that very accessibility of tv give more opportunity for repeat viewers. Neither side of the coin is quantifiable.
SOO no doubt is the biggest sporting spectacle in the country I expect, rating very well in Vic, SA and WA as well as heartlands. I wouldn’t dispute that point. Does the casual viewership of SOO alone attest to the higher following of RL over AFL. Debatably yes, but not by me.
Did the article take into account memberships, I can’t remember. Did it take into account the levels of fandom and avg spend per member, not that I remember. there are so many various metrics to determine the popularity of AFL, NRL and any other sport. Having higher television figures is very far from the sole barometer to demonstrate which “sport is bigger”. I would argue it’s not even the most important.
I do wonder where the Melbourne Cup rates on that viewership scale. Not that I am suggesting the viewing figures of a two to four minute horse race could mean horse racing is Australia’s favourite sport.
The article took into account attendance and membership with that plus TV viewership all combined NRL had over a 10m lead over AFL. You offer some good points but they don't move the needle that much to push it into the AFL favour.
I go to Melbourne for work once a month and talking to the fellas there alot of them a fed up with afl new rules and are not watching it any more instead they more into the Storm this small sample size but may be a reason for these figures in favour on nrl.
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1 hour ago, Sports Prophet said:
1. I never said I watch 9 afl games???
2. Swans make a mint compared to Parramatta, Souths and Penrith.
3. I am not suggesting NRL had more or less viewers than AFL, I am just saying that if the tv figures say there were 1m viewers of RL over the weekend, that does not mean 1m people watch RL over the weekend.
That super Saturday is from 3-9:30pm I don't think many people are going to watch 6.5 hours straight they just tune it to Their team. Even Friday 6-10pm most people I know are so busy to see Evry game.
Swans made a net profit of 50k while Eels made over 3m so not sure about swans being biggest.
NSW and QLD hold 55% Australia population so it's not surprising rugby league is Australia's most popular sport
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3 hours ago, Sports Prophet said:
Swans is just one example across a number of points I was making. My point stands correct though. The Swans are the biggest sports club in NSW. Financially and by membership.
To your TV point, let me ask it this way… if in one week of 8 NRL games delivered national viewing figures of 1,000,000 (1m) and 9 AFL games, delivered national viewing figures of 900,000 (900k), which sport had the most number of televised viewers over the course of that weekend?
Before you answer, using me as a case study, those viewing figures include myself watching one of those 9 AFL games while I also watched four of those 8 NRL games.
Swans do not make more money then Parramatta or Penrith or Souths.
My friend your missing the point the example you gave will indicate afl had more viewers however that is not reality as nrl had more viewers total with less games. How can you defend that millions of. More. Viewers with less games.
Btw how u watch 9 afl games as you said they overlap each other according to you ?
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On 14/08/2022 at 07:20, Izmir Zaferi said:
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@izmirrugby
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Hey mate,
Can you give us a snapshot of the progress of Rugby League in Turkey how many players you guys have playing, whats the response from the locals on thr sports, is their any media coverage? How many years you say before Turkey can qualigy RLWC or produce Super League calibre talent. What are the biggest obstacles for you guys.
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On 08/10/2022 at 13:15, Gomersall said:
How many players are registered in Toronto and Canada.
How is the Cccrl going?
Is there potential in Canada to become a nation which can produce NRL/ESL players.
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17 minutes ago, Sports Prophet said:
Attending games is expensive, thus validating my point that by having greater number of physical attendees does bode much better for the sport financially and personal investment, than televised viewers.
As per my discussion with @Dunbar, tv kpi’s are a great indicator, but not a sole indicator where those televised kpi’s are more likely to be doubling, tripling or quadrupling a very good proportion of eyeballs over the course of one weekend. I know I mainly watch three to four NRL games a weekend and just one AFL game.
That 5 Swans players were not recognised in an Eastern Suburbs bar whilst a Cronulla Sharks fullback was, does not deviate from the fact that the Sydney Swans are NSW’s biggest sports club.
Swans are biggest in terms of members but not tv viewers or money generated also goes to point afl better seen live , NRL better on tv. its insane . Article talks about popularity not passion or makes most money the difference of 23m is overwhelming
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12 hours ago, Dirkgee said:
Good grief. The comments on that article are a mess. Australians really go full on into hating each of the sports they don't like.
The 4 North American sports don't generate this much hate over a persons favourite sport
Mainly soccer and afl fans as many soccer fans believe best soccer talent goes to afl.
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3 hours ago, Sports Prophet said:
The one thing that needs to be remembered with tv stats is:
1. Total viewers are dramatically less likely to be unique viewers than physical attendees.
2. AFL have many fixtures that overlap each other. This means on many occasions, there will be two fixtures on at one time. This reducing the opportunity for “repeat” viewers like League which only ever has one fixture playing at any one time.
Other stats favouring AFL that are not brought to attention in the article include the Sydney Swans being the biggest sports club in NSW. Brisbane Bears attendances rival the Broncos in a successful season. Melbourne Storm could not deliver similarly favourable stats as a one city club in non heartland territory.
AFL also commands sensationally more corporate investment than League, demonstrating itself to have more influence over the behaviours, lifestyle and spending of its fans. The larger worth of the tv contracts will attest to that.
The post is a good one and NRL has dramatically closed the gap on AFL, but in my opinion, Australian Rules is still the nation’s #1.
I was at bar in cogee with 5 swans players in it and no one knew who they were, while Will Kennedy a solid nrl players had 4-5 people ask for a photo. Attending games is expensive when all costs taken into account plus is you live an hour away your less likely to visit games but your still a fan so TV is best indication.
Rugby League had 23m eyeballs for then those points you brought up may indicate gap is closer but not enough
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Poland also have a solid nrl base
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2 hours ago, Dave W said:
RL is exactly the same except we have only one international team that dominates and domestically there are only 4-5 teams that win everything.
Why do supporters of the other teams continue supporting, despite knowing your team can never win?
Hope!
Difference is RL World Cup held every 4 years while NRL every year.
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0 chance any African team beating Cook Islands if they have a close to full team. Love to see 20 teams I know it will be one sided games but goal is for nations who make world cup get recongtion and more funding
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50 minutes ago, hw88 said:
True. The problem is that if you get 16 random people and split them up equally you can have a pretty fair football game but a rugby game would be totally dominated by a couple of people - usually the biggest and/or strongest.
We were playing touch not tackle it was concrete
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To be fair all you need is a ball to play Rugby League I used to play with s tennis ball at school on cement lol.
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Soccer biggest impediment it's so predictable same 3-4 teams are only going to win the league ever. What fun is it your team isn't the elite?
Look at NFL Bengals has the worst record in NFL two years later they made the SuperBowl.
In NRL only 1 team hasn't made a Grand Final last 12 years.
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Look at 5 biggest leagues
Seria A Juventus won 10 times in a row only ended 2 years ago
La Liga 2 teams have won 15/17 to titles
PSG won Ligue 1 8/11 times
Bundesliga is a so one sided Bayern Munich have won 10 times in a row
While most competive league Epl Man City won 4 from 5 and favourites in to win it this season.
How is it fun when 75% of the league has 0 chance ever of winning unless they get bought by rich owners.
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3 hours ago, Tosh said:
These are just certain games you’ve cherry-picked in order to suit your narrative.
I actually like both games of RL and football but could easily have done the same with the recent RLWC highlighting certain group games that were one-sided, dull, underwhelming and put me to sleep etc leaving out the exciting PNG v Tonga game or both semi-final games etc.
Football or soccer as you call it is exciting because of its simplicity and there’s got to be a reason why it’s the global game loved by probably billions of people the world over.
Didn't cherry pick Spain v Germany was best group game, Argentina v Mexico two great soccer nations. It's unfair to compare Rlwc to Fifa as one has much more talent. That's why I used NRL as better comparison. Greece Jamaica Lebanon were not even playing RL 25 years ago so it's unfair to compare it to Soccer world cup. NFL is biggest league in the world yet its most complex game so simple isn't everything. While Cycling and Running are more simple then soccer and not as popular.
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With no RL I have started watching the Fifa World Cup for my sporting fix and to say I found it under whelming would be an understatement. Watching the Spain v Germany amount of passing at the back put me to sleep among other FIFA World Cup games and I honestly do not understand how it is the most popular sport in the world. England v USA a snoozefest even Mexico v Argentina was dull until Messi scored, the Brazil game again not was nothing amazing until Richarson bicyle kick. I get the games are closer in general and more chance of upsets but even the mentality of weaker teams is stay back defend and hope from an error from the opposition rather then trying to take the game to the opposition, the diving is just a joke yes in RL players dive to get an obstruction penalty but soccer is to another level , legit there are dives when players have not even being touched. I want to enjoy it as its the world game, and huge sporting event it crazy how much more popular soccer compared to rugby league even though rugby league is the superior sport. If we were to get 100 people from some remote island with no contact with world and made them watch both sports side to side I am certain majority will pick RL as superior sport. I know is a small sample size but RL just lacks exposure, I took world colleagues one from Portugal the other from Colombia to an NRL match and they loved it and now are fans unfortunately for the Sharks. Look at the big 5 European Leagues and its the same teams winning it essentially, unless for a Leicester City miracle a supporter of West Ham, Torino or Hertha Berlin will never win the title unless they are bought out by a rich owner how depressing knowing you know your team can never win.
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As I was saying when is mattered cream risen to the top. Samoa better then England.
Rugby League Australia most popular sport?
in The General Rugby League Forum
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What the Grand Final was over in 15 minutes.