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  1. No individual club could, but the rfl/central administrator could
  2. You've quoted me, multiple times, making the same invented problems which are things only you have suggested and then argued against. There are only so many different ways for me to say to you I'm not suggesting we delay signing players to pro terms. There's nothing obtuse about it. I really couldn't be more explicit.
  3. Honestly your comprehension skills are appalling. Not at amatuer clubs, at local centres of excellence. Where you could sign professional forms at the same time as now. You remember, the functions of scholarship and academy rugby aren't disappearing. Just being provided by someone else. I have no idea why you have spent two pages arguing against a ban on players signing pro terms before they are 18 or 20 when that hasn't been suggested.
  4. The scholarship and academy aspects would be taken on centrally. In my opinion the best way of doing that would be through community clubs acting as local centres of excellence
  5. Where does it say that is when we would offer the first pro contract oh wise great rememberer?
  6. I said they would be drafted at 18, but that doesnt mean that is when they would sign their first terms. If the draft system was predicated on central contracts then those contracts could be signed at any time before.
  7. You are just inventing things in your head and arguing against them then getting grumpy when someone points out these things dont exist. Its odd to see. Why would a draft based on central contracts mean we had to delay the signing of professional terms? wouldnt it be, kind of necessary, for a process involving central contracts to, kind of, sign players to contracts. Centrally?
  8. No it doesnt. This again is another completely invented problem.
  9. That is obviously not the case because Youth internationals dont only play for Leeds or Wigan. Under the current system yes plenty of clubs would offer you a contract and you would have your pick. But that wouldnt be the case under the suggested system, but the consequence of that isnt that players just retire. The hypothetical isnt would you choose to play for Leeds or Hull KR. Its would you play for Hull KR or retire. There should be a basic level of pay for full-time pro's that much is obvious. But that is the case now. It still doesnt make sense that that would need to be the same? The insistence on no P+R isnt problematic. It just doesnt fit. But as i said in the first post on this. A draft wouldnt be the end state but a tool to getting us towards our ultimate goal. If the ultimate goal is that a more even league creates a better product and that attracts more people and more money, then that is the recompense. A slice of a bigger pie.
  10. Plenty of players do that. All the time. Realistically the scenario you are describing here is that if you were 18 and lets say Hull KR offered you a contract, and only Hull KR offered you a contract you would retire from the game. That clearly isnt going to happen. Its a preposterous notion. It would require no P+R certainly. Im not sure why they would need to be paid the same. It wouldnt make all clubs and their academies equal because those academies wouldnt exist. And you are right, it would require that the clubs who have the current 'baked in' advantage give that up, but any talent equalisation measure requires that. And it doesnt remove the threat of outside competition but that threat exists now, and isnt really a huge threat. There arent a huge amount of players leaving the sport at 17/18 to because they are offered better union contracts. Only one i could really think of is Mclelland
  11. depends what you class as a success. Would a few thousand go along? sure. Would tens of thousands go along and move the game forward? no. Besides, there are 4 SL clubs within 30mins of Leeds, plus Bradford, Fev, Batley, Dewsbury et al. Its an accident of geography and the development of this country that we look at it like this. In America or Australia "leeds" would stretch from York and Harrogate in the north to Wakefield and Huddersfield in the south. Leeds and Bradford are pretty much one big city anyway. We arent short of clubs in that area.
  12. Because even in the heartlands RL doesnt hold a highly visible position that can attract people. There are about 4.5m people within a 30minute drive of Leigh, only about 2.5k bother going along.
  13. Had a real opportunity to have a look at a different option(s) for the challenge cup this year and create a better TV product. This year and next were probably the best chances at a 'free swing' we would ever have.
  14. Here is the very basic premise of YOUR argument you are seemingly missing. It was YOUR assertion that unless Hanley signs for Wigan he is lost to the game. Im asking you the very obvious question that comes from YOUR assertion. What happens if Wigan dont offer him a contract? A draft isnt impossible, it wouldnt drive players away from the game and would largely replicate the work clubs do. Anyone with an ounce of common sense of what happens with young players, even right now can see that. The reason you refuse to answer that very simple question is that it destroys the very clear straw man you have built. That being, it isnt a necessity that Wigan and the top clubs MUST sign all the best youngsters and very young ages lest they all simply refuse to play RL anymore. This strawman is especially strawy and irrelevant when you are comparing it to a world where no clubs would sign any youngsters at the very young ages. A world where the choice would never be 'wigan or union' because the idea of 'wigan' in that context simply didnt exist. Hanley is 18. In a draft system this is the year he would be drafted. He has played a total of 1 SL game that he wouldnt have played in a normal year. Everything that has been done at academy and scholarship level could be repeated cheaper, better and for more players if done centrally.
  15. The RFL control the mechanism for adding and removing clubs from SL. Its one of their rights under the special preference share.
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