[Hull FC owner unsure if the club will survive the next 6 months]

3 hours ago, Phil said:

I know in the case of The Shay neither Fax nor the football club get the revenue from the bars

That’s shocking. 

[Football]

Cheltenham Town losing at home to the Cod Army 0-1 at HT. If they don’t score tonight they will equal the records held by Coventry 1919-20 & Hartlepool 1992-93 who both went eleven games without scoring. 

[Hull FC owner unsure if the club will survive the next 6 months]

When FC play at home do they keep the beer takings from the bars on the ground, do Hull City as well!!. 

[DANNY WARD is not to be coach at cas next season. he turned down the offer.]

Surrey Surrey rah rah rah. 

[Attendance thread]

On 01/10/2023 at 16:47, ATLANTISMAN said:

Agree it was a terrible attendance 

I can’t believe the RFL never agreed with Ch4/Sky in which they had to produce 10,000 cardboard cutouts of spectators. Then they could have been be placed in the empty seats at the matches on tv. The game will never learn. 

[The Transfer Rumour Mill Thread]

17 hours ago, NRLandSL said:

Bennison is a fantastic full back, Great support play, safe under the high ball, and fantastic acceleration. Unfortunately saints have one the best players in the world at full back so it’s hard for him to get a run at 1 without injuries. I reckon if Bennison was at a another super league team like Castleford or Wakefield he would be tearing up the comp.

Bennison is a safe as houses and has got a great future, and he is also still only a young lad. When Welsby sails off to Australia hopefully Bennison will be Saints No1. 

[The Transfer Rumour Mill Thread]

Hopefully Saints have learned from the Grace situation and won’t hang around waiting for a player to make his mind up. 

[Attendance thread]

4 hours ago, Gomersall said:

For two well supported teams approximately 13 miles apart?

I know a few people who didn’t go because they just didn’t have the cash, others said with it being live on Ch4 they decided to stay at home because of the weather and they’d save money. I had a couple of workmates who usually go but they were playing football, one of them did say “they heard a huge roar as they were playing their club football match but it wasn’t at their game”. I didn’t think it was a bad attendance, it was a good atmosphere and both sets Saints & Wire fans made a fair bit of noise. 

[Sat 30th Sept: SL Elim: St Helens v Warrington Wolves KO 12:45 (Sky & C4)]

On 30/09/2023 at 15:24, graveyard johnny said:

a wigan v saints final has been nailed on for weeks

Saints haven’t got a chance johnny, all Catalans have to do is throw the ball out wide. I don’t know if Hurrell will get a game as he is still celebrating his own crossbar challenge and another week of all you can eat Chinese Buffet for six. 

[Sat 30th Sept: SL Elim: St Helens v Warrington Wolves KO 12:45 (Sky & C4)]

On 30/09/2023 at 14:50, Harry Stottle said:

I'm really disappointed Saints won, I love to hear Wellens talking in defeat, oh well I will have to wait another week.

His usual reply is “i can’t fault the player’s effort”. He also likes to say “we made some errors but we can improve on that next week”. 
He’ll be saying “we can improve next week” after we have lost at Catalans. 

[The Transfer Rumour Mill Thread]

On 29/09/2023 at 16:17, Magic Superbeetle said:

So in 2022, yes we only brought in Ritson and Bruines, but in 2021 Hopoate, Sironen, Lussick, Hurrell and Bell came in, and in 2020 Joel Thompson, Paasi, Mata'utia and Norman. I don't think its fair to say we haven't brought anyone in to the club. Theres also a tonne of kids come through in that time, and theres a tonne more in the current 18s who are expected to make it professionally - talk of a golden generation in the team which won the Grand Final last week. 

Winger = Waqa Blake (or someone else). Centre might be Newman, but expect Vaughan and D Sambou are both highly rated in the academy at centre, prop will be Eseh (and potentially another if Paasi gets deregistered, talk being that we are talking to Kasiano ... for better or worse).

The deals are there, its just the club are choosing not to announce them for one reason or another currently. The hope would be because were waiting for our own marquees who might oust some of the names above, but who knows with Saints.

Yes i know the players who came in Magic but what about the players who left. I like Bennison but he is not a winger, i think Saints took the cheap option by moving Bennison to the wing. 

[The Transfer Rumour Mill Thread]

43 minutes ago, Gerrumonside ref said:

Why do you think it’s quiet, mate?

Are Saints hierarchy hoping for further development from the younger players at the club?

As you say with Wigan putting together a good squad already then Saints can’t afford to rest on their laurels even though it’s already been an amazing era.

I think over the last three years G Ref we have hardly brought anyone into the club and instead we have upped the contracts of players already at the club.
I would be happy if we signed a quality centre, winger & prop. 

[Sat 30th Sept: SL Elim: St Helens v Warrington Wolves KO 12:45 (Sky & C4)]

It’s going to be a close game. The pressure is on Saints, i can see Wire throwing the ball out wide, Saints will do what they do best, plod down the middle little kick into the corner on the last. 

[The Transfer Rumour Mill Thread]

Wigan have got a fantastic squad for 2024, i might be tempted to put a fiver on them to do the double next season. 
As for Saints, well it’s all quite on the transfer front…..still. 

[Clubs fined]

Saints have handed an indefinite ban to the idiot that got onto the pitch last Friday. They should’ve fined him as well and the steward should’ve pressed charges against him for assault. I don’t know what has happened to the first fool that ran onto the pitch, it looks as if he has got away with it. 

[Attendance thread]

1 hour ago, RayCee said:

Interesting stats. I put together a list that is close to those figures.

https://rugbyl.blogspot.com/

I think your figures are spot on RayCee.
I have sacked off my mate at work. 
I do enjoy looking at your blog it is really interesting. I just wish id have kept hold of all my old Rothmans, and then id have known myself what the average top tier attendances were in the good old days of the 80’s-1995. 

[Beaumont has another tantrum, threatens to stop investing in Leigh]

7 hours ago, lucky 7 said:

No money men in South Africa would be interested in investing in British Rugby League otherwise it would have happened by now

No, he’s never met a nice South African 

And that’s not bloody surprising. 

[Attendance thread]

A mate at work who loves numbers & stats has worked out the average club attendance this season after the 13 home games. He worked out the attendances that have been printed in the press including the 14,000 at Saints on Friday. Leeds are the best supported club once again. But ten club have seen a rise in attendances
1. Leeds 13,804 + 864

2. Wigan 13,497 +1,219

3. Saints 12.782 + 931

4. Hull 12,345 + 1,582

5. Wire 10,889 + 2,170

6. Catalans 9,062 + 994

7. HKR 8,710 + 922

8. Leigh 7,253 - 

9. Cas 7,170 - 372

10. Salford 5,293 + 764

11. Huddersfield 5,257 + 113

12 Wakefield 4,299 - 314. 

If these are correct (they may not be!!!!)  it’s good to see attendances improving. It would be great if the clubs could build on them for 2024. If Fev come up would they average more than Trin, i haven’t a clue ?. 

[The Transfer Rumour Mill Thread]

The lack of signings from Saints is quite worrying, we have hardly brought anyone in over the last 2 or 3 years. We desperately need a centre & winger, someone with pace. 

[Attendance thread]

What is Trin’s current capacity, i know they have sold out a couple of games near the end of the season. Is it 5/6,000 ?. 

[Attendance thread]

What was each club’s average attendance after the regular season. That’s if all clubs announced and gave the correct attendances!!!!. 

[Fri 22nd Sept: SL: St Helens v Hull FC KO 20:00]

Saints were hit & miss again. Great in defence average in attack. Welsby has some howlers in him but he does score some great tries, he is quite a fast lad but we lack pace out wide. 
Hull scored two great tries, one a lovely pass from Welsby. I was disappointed Swifty didn’t play, he is great to watch.   

[Attendance thread]

12 hours ago, JonNgog said:

Saints have posted two very different attendances for this game - 10,350 and 14,036. Presumably you reckon the latter is a mistake? (see the bottom of this page - https://www.saintsrlfc.com/matches/2023/first-team/saints-v-hull-fc-2023-09-22/)

I don’t understand how the club and the press get figures so wrong. There did look more than 10,300 in attendance but i wouldn’t have thought 14,000 was there. But i am not in charge of the turnstiles. 

[Attendance thread]

20 hours ago, meast said:

5,600 at Huddersfield, above average, certainly not shocking unless you're counting the empty seats instead?

Great crowd with Fartown having nothing to play for. I don’t know if t’weather was as bad over there as it was in Lancashire. 

[Attendance thread]

Just now, Josef K said:

10,350 at Saints which is up 2,128 on last years loop fixture against Wakey.

I think the weather put quite a few of the floaters off, even the ones that stand with me who pay at the gate could not be enticed to come out tonight in the heavy rain. It was either stay at home or go the pub and watch the Leigh/Wigan match in comfort. Even a season ticket holder couldn’t be arsed coming. If i hadn’t have had a season ticket i wouldn’t have bothered myself. 
Fair play to the FC fans who made the journey for a nothing game, hopefully there was no diversions on’t way home. 

P.S two Saints fans got on the pitch during the game i hope Saints ban them. I don’t know if a spectator can be fined for going onto the pitch but Saints should if they can. The second maggot that got on the pitch threw a punch at one of the stewards who was escorting him from the pitch, the steward wasn’t a young lad in his prime either. But the Yoof who got on the pitch was embarrassing.