sweaty craiq
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9 hours ago, Leyther_Matt said:
Looks like they’ve only been allocated behind the sticks so would have fully expected them to sell that out at just shy of 2,000
Will be plenty of the unwashed in our end too, I expect. Most of whom probably live in Leigh
The reserved East stand blocks for the bigger followings have gone back to Leigh this week, about 250 left nearly all in East J - will be the biggest paying home crowd at LSV
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3 hours ago, Tommygilf said:
Leeds are expecting to sell out our allocation at KR this weekend. Can't remember the last time we've had a message like that from the club.
You get 800 tickets and are an hour away - should have been sold weeks ago for a club the size of Leeds for a huge game.
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16 hours ago, Tommygilf said:
Its a completely toxic situation.
All those, including agents who advised players to sign there, and especially the coach who persuaded players to sign/stay with the club should hang their head in shame.
BINGO. The reality was known by the people offering deals, they didnt want to admit it and kept buying EuroMillions tickets to overcome it.
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4 hours ago, Dave T said:
What would have been better about that?
They'd still be struggling to pay the bills, and they'd still be struggling to win games.
It's all a bit of e technical point really. The alternative really wasn't much better - saving tens of thousands a month of course makes sense, but the issues are far bigger than that.
Pre season you can promote another club - which means Sky get what they paid for and the circus is closed. By operating at £1.2m that is about the same as the Sky money, it has been rumoured the RFL are already in for that much or more so far.
Salford fans would have had a Rorkes drift season that often makes a fan base stronger, and would have a squad that could be built from.
Finally RL would have avoided the negatives to distract from a bag full of positives - perception is king
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The Darkest hour is just before the Dawn.
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10 hours ago, Charlie said:
I’m just wondering who’s this loan against. It won’t be the club or king so has to be the new owners, but hard to see why they’d put 3m of debt to there name
The rumour it has been secured against 500 Salford fans donating vital organs via ebay - no specific names given but a go fund me to be set up
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On 16/06/2025 at 18:03, Taffy Tiger said:
Agree , it was a special dispensation made by RFL so that they could put out a 'competitive squad' . By rights they should have sold players to bring their full squad down to the £1.2M cap . I think they were initially told to do this before the season started but never did . They were told again to do this before the Cas match in March , but were allowed to name a squad with fewer than 21 players in , as long as those named didn't exceed a £1.2M salary cap , despite their full squad cap exceeding this .
This is where the previous RFL board showed outstanding weakness and lack of vision. If the hammer had been used when it should instead of listening to bull droppings coming out of the club we would not be here today 1/ Salfords squad would be larger 2/ Salford fans would know exactly where they stood 3/Salford fans would have been fully united behind a backs to the wall season as London in 2024 4/ The comp wouldnt be compromised 5/ The negative publicity would never have occurred
By allowing the garbage spouted to be swallowed Salford got to game 1, thus making RFL compliance totally unrequired as the penalties from TV outweighed doing the right thing.
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11 minutes ago, Taffy Tiger said:
As I understand it , they can only name a squad up to the value of £ 1.2M . Once they have reached this they can name no more players in their squad . The 19 they named will have taken them up to the £1.2M cap . In the past they have named fewer than this when players such as Sneyd, Watkins, Atkin & Nene were available. This was the case for the first game when the new restrictions were brought into place against Cas (7th March). They named a 17 man squad as that hit the £1.2M cap . Since the departure of these players they have been able to name a few more players as the above 4 players were on a much higher salary than those now left at the club. They could name a 21 man squad if they played all of the reserves in a similar way top their first match of the season at Saints , but would that be the right thing to do all things considered ?
How can you pay a squad with a cost of over £1.2m but only play £1.2m worth at any one time? Is it because they refused to sell players to get the squad below £1.2m when they could have and brought in cheaper players to retain squad numbers
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On 13/06/2025 at 18:20, Griff said:
Controversial - having two points 2. But, looking at the second point 2, I don't really understand where this working capital comes from. Are you saying that £2m could be raised from the sale of 3m shares (they need to be sold at at least face value) or are you implying that a boatload of shares could be sold to Joe Public which would leave any rich bloke buyer a bit of a mountain to climb to take overall control?
If not, what are you saying ?
Altered now to stop controversy.
Salford fans seem to want a fan owned club.
Spread the money in over multiple years, 1 vote per share £1 per share - make as many shares available as demand dictates. 2m committed over 4 years creates £500k pa, 3m £600k etc to give the club the additional external investment needed to finance ambition.
If the fans own 2m shares and billy Large Ones wants to take control then the owners (fans) could sell but that is not why they bought them, or Billy would need to show his money and more shares created for him to buy that control.
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This is my helicopter view of my preferred opinion of how events could unfold. ( overview not detailed)
1. Club goes into insolvency
2. Club reforms in championship reaching whatever level it is best suited to
3. Fans raise significant income to fund the phoenix - £1 is 1 share. This could be spread over a number of years eg fans committing a minimum of £200 pa for 4 years. 3000000 shares created and allocated in blocks of 200 after payment, this could find the magical £2m, or more if all sold, but would ensure anyone coming in would have to buy over 2million shares to take control creating working capital for the club should it happen
4. Shares elect the board, transparency by right - board elected every 2/3 years with options for emergencies should a majority want it.
No need to find £2m NOW, no claim to the ground but a long term rental agreement created - lets see how much of a wake up call this has been to the fanbase.
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20 hours ago, koli said:
To be pedantic the CCF was usually the 4th last game of the season followed by Championship/Premiership semis and the Championship/Premiership Final
Nothing wrong with pedantic, but for the fans the season ended at the CCF the play offs were not treated too seriously. It was THE end of season Jolly Boys Outing, fancy dress and all
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On 08/06/2025 at 16:53, JM2010 said:
How do other events sell tickets? I’m not in marketing so I’ll leave it to the experts
Supply and demand.
Take the Ashes - we created demand and the perception of a limited supply to the Leeds and Everton games caused a frenzy. Wembley is slower because everyone knows seats will be available on the day, and for many fans the costs of Vegas, Catalans, CCF and Magic in RL land plus family holidays etc meant the wallet took a caning.
ERU and FA distribute via the sport and huge corporate take up leaving not that many for the fans of clubs for cup finals and Internationals - the demand is therefore huge for a small supply.
When the CCF was the last game of the season (and the biggest) it was a must go to for many end of season trips, its not that anymore.
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48 minutes ago, turn it in said:
I’ve heard that they sold way more but the weather forced a few no-shows.
amazing crowd nonetheless.
Mate went A$5 ticket free beer and food, and a Tuk Tuk right to his seat in the Royal Box.
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2 hours ago, OMEGA said:
With the 1895 trophy in the bag York will be a threat for promotion to SL via the IMG points
They stand behind the Sawdust Platters 13
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4 hours ago, hunsletgreenandgold said:
I don’t remember the posts you mention but there was always a dispute over whether it included the ‘pre-paid’ club Wembley seats, even though most were empty. I think we later found out it did - not sure if they accounted for as much as 10k though
Edit: this article appears to suggest there’s was as many as 15k club Wembley seats originally. That doesn’t mean they were all pre-paid I guess, but it was those that were all the bone of contention
We had 4 debenture seats in the club Wembley section and the CCF was one of the pre paid events, the motivation amongst the members was a day out already paid for - the seats were sold it’s just at least half never used them
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21 minutes ago, JonM said:
Do you have a road atlas? Or perhaps access to Google maps?
Earliest this game finishes is 19:30. It's just over a 5 hour drive if I don't stop for the toilet or a break or cup of tea and stick to the legal speed limits. As I can't actually park in the club Wembley seats, I'll need to also allow some time to walk to the car. No way do I get home before 1 am.
Give over you could walk it quicker, three and a half hours with a loo break. Booldy Humbles
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3 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:
Seeing you state the 2021 census that returned a population of 211,000, the 2001 census was 158,000 that is a 33% increase or 53,000 actual, just allowing for the same increase rate in actual numbers over the 4 years to the present that's another 10,600, so where have they all come from?
It’s mainly come from converting houses in the slum areas like Stockton Heath into HMO’s
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17 minutes ago, JonM said:
I'm driving to London and back this year, as the train options are not great. If I stayed to watch the 1895 Cup (which I would have liked to do), it'd mean getting home well into the early hours.
Does your car have an engine or is it an ant hill mob variant?
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3 hours ago, ELBOWSEYE said:
Sorry to correct you, Geoff (piggy) Fletcher asked them to pay the £250 for Dessie, they refused so he offered to pay it himself, there were some good directors there at the time but they weren't always wise, in my age group John Pendlebury was a Bedford high school player that was ignored and he went to Wigan. Also they would budge on the £ 250 if you signed on from amateur clubs that's why Derek Pyke signed from Leigh RU Rather than the miners.
Think you are wrong on this unless Brian Bowman telling me this had got it wrong. He said he thought the 5 directors had agreed to put £50 each in to sign Dessie but only he ended up doing so
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16 hours ago, ELBOWSEYE said:
It was a £250 signing on fee then.
Youre right the £50 was for Dessie
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The £50 Leigh paid John Woods for signing
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1 hour ago, turn it in said:
Trinity of Wakefield roving tigers.
I heard Trinity Tigovers had been suggested
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2 hours ago, Eddie said:
There would absolutely be two Hull clubs, Catalan, Saints and Wire.
But that defeats the object having teams in who struggle to get 10k in never mind the 15-20k averages of the new dawn
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