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  1. 45 minutes ago, Dave T said:

    The only way they could have sacked Rimmer would have been around any misconduct charge for his Fiji comments. But that's a slightly separate issue. 

    He wasn't sacked, he was let go, which comes with a payoff. It's quite standard stuff. 

    You can't just sack people because you fancy getting somebody else in. 

    What action was taken then? I have seen folk sacked for less, or a compromise reached on lower than contract terms for a sharp exit and a brush under.

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  2. 3 minutes ago, Spidey said:

    If there hasn't been a disciplinary process in place It would be extremely difficult to sack somebody without the risk of a tribunal and compensation to be paid

    Forgive me but didnt he do something very stupid that could have led to dismissal if the will was there ?

  3. 58 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

    Even with performance related pay you'll still get a notice period and a pay off.

    That's how contracted full-time employment works.

    If you want the RFL exec team to be on gig economy contracts then ... well, good luck with that.

    PRP involves a low basic and huge incentives to succeed, by doing so the parent gains far more than the individual. Sacking means that ie bye bye no sweet heart pay off to go quietly. Should you mutually agree closure then the basic is low so the payment is low with PRP. People with complete confidence in their ability to overachieve prefer the accelerated rewards of PRP as they back themselves, plodders and non achievers prefer the higher basic

  4. 12 hours ago, Dave T said:

    Many execs who seemingly get sacked are basically paid off. I don't care much for Rimmer personally, so I won't spend any time defending his performance, but it really is pretty standard to pay people off. 

    Personally, if this is what is required to freshen things up and make sure we have the right leadership team then it's money well spent. People don't just get sacked, they get paid off. 

    The bigger problem is that they just carried on he conveyor belt of the next bloke in the office getting the job. 

    Nobody who gets 'sacked' should get any payment, payments are made for fixed term contracts finishing early or whereby there is not enough to sack them and mutual agreement is reached. IMO the RFL had enough to sack him but didnt want to - hence the severance pay or notice pay.

  5. 12 hours ago, hullste said:

    Plenty on here have disputed that there was anything wrong with the technique.

    Neither do I and it is currently a fair tackle, but that shouldnt stop all things being reviewed in the correct manner at the correct time when some people have raised possible issues. This is the bit that so many people, mainly Saints fans driven by their coaches outburst, do not accept and keep repeating the same speach and causing issues that will lead to a major problem if not sorted.

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  6. 10 minutes ago, hullste said:

    Well said Tony Smith, and for all those who said there was absolutely nothing wrong with the technique applied by Asiata and asked questions like 'Have you ever played the game' I hope his view and that of Rohan Smith in an earlier press conference supports that there is widespread acknowledgement that the technique applied needs to be looked at to safeguard players.

    Nobody is disputing that technique should always be under the microscope, but today there is nothing banned about the tackling. Saints and others are great at slowing down, throwing limbs into the attacker to do so, Saints do a lot of shoulder charges, Saints and Wigan have a lot of head contact after the momentum has been stopped - all these things need sorting. 

  7. 6 minutes ago, ATLANTISMAN said:

    Have just read an article on RL HUB by John Davidson has anyone else seen it


    * Nearly 500K in pay offs recently  to staff

    * Broadcast revenue down 17%

    * Cash reserves down by 50% (Even after 11 million from sport England)

    * Decrease in money to clubs by £ 3 million

    * RFL director remuneration up by 50%



    Turkeys carry on voting for Christmas - PRP is the only way

  8. imo sales will slow down this coming week - leaving the cheaper seats available - this is what you market to RL clubs within a 50mile radius, even if that deal is allowing them to keep all the revenue to aid there growth either financial or awareness. Take a section or four not on sale and give it away with caveats - could Skolars market 2000 free seats to North London locals, Could Broncos do 5000? Schools and amateur clubs 2000 more - the media see a 78000 gate and wow the CCF is an event again

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  9. 7 minutes ago, Eddie said:

    I hope you’re right. What figures have you heard for ticket sales? 

    Took it down a bit as I didn’t realise how big the top tier is, my guess is that there is about 1000 left on bottom and middle tiers. We will end up with 15000 or so, about 60 coaches have already been filled maybe more and it’s monthly pay day for many this week. The old problem of holiday season will have an effect but the stories of families coming back is always heartwarming with New Zealand and China being the outlying so far, seems to be loads of Leythers in Canada?

  10. 2 minutes ago, Saint Toppy said:

    Part of Wellens reason for such a reaction is he's pointed out to them their own inconsistency. Earlier this season Lees got a ban and the disciplinary clarified that they take into consideration any injuries sustained. When Saints queried this with the Paasi & Walmsley incidents the Disciplinary confirmed that they hadn't even read any of the medical reports so took no consideration of the injuries sustained to either player.

    So his biggest beef with the RFL is their failure to apply their own rules consistently.

    That is done when a foul has taken place, you seem to be missing this key area - I have seen many a player pull an hamstring or roll an ankle with nobody else in sight, should that be taken into account also? This witch hunt must stop and Wellens needs to apologise just as publicly



  11. 11 minutes ago, The Blues Ox said:

    I think the main issue from this photo is that your knee is not made to bend in that direction, the player does not wrap his arms until after contact and you can see from the position of the tackle that he basically throws his body at Paasi to create an obstacle. There is no intent to injure in my mind at all and Im sure the Leigh player is devastated but again I do thinks its reckless and players as a whole should be warned about this type of tackle where by they are tackling around the knee area, I mean its not anywhere near what they are coached to tackle like but in a game occasionally you will see tackles like this.


    and when you look at when the impact was made do you feel its wrong



  12. 11 hours ago, Leyther_Matt said:



    The Gate Receipts for the final Cup Tie shall be divided as follows:


    The net Gate Receipts from the final Cup Tie shall be divided as follows: 10% of net Gate Receipts shall go to the Cup Pool; having deducted the 10%, 10% of the remainder shall go to each of the competing Clubs and the balance shall go to the RL Commercial.




    The Cup Pool shall be retained by RL Commercial..

    Notwithstanding any other provision of these Operational Rules, if the net Gate Receipts are not sufficient to cover the entire expenses of a semi-final or final Cup Tie, then the match expenses of RL Commercial (including charges for the hire of the ground) shall be the first charge and any remaining shortfall shall be borne equally by the two competing Clubs.

    Operational Rules 2023 - Section A3 - Finance

    Hope that is the case Matt and I have been told duff info. So based on that what do you expect the 2 teams to get with say a £3m ticket income?

  13. 44 minutes ago, Pie tries said:

    Brilliant. Postive posts like this are only allowed between now and the final.

    It’s funny “as” in Leyth today, pubs put it out they are thinking of running a coach if enough interest and an hour later are explaining they are on coach 3.

    Derek’s been on TV trying to cut a deal with Burnham and sponsors to put on free coaches for those financially struggling and a bloke has offered to pay for 30 kids tickets as Derek has helped his charities in the past.

    can’t wait for tomorrow.

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