M j M
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4 minutes ago, Damien said:
A claim? There are articles on this from reputable sources with direct quotes from Woods. The only claim without any basis is yours.
You are usually much better than this.
Better than what? Repeating something that is common knowledge? Have I fallen into some bizarre parallel universe?
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Pretending a claim on the internet is "fact" despite it going counter to what multiple people say who were actually involved in Rugby League management at the time and who literally were spoken to by Lewis about it.
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45 minutes ago, Damien said:
This is revisionist and is very much the lets credit Wood with all the good stuff but none of the bad thinking. Lewis left 2 months after the Stobart deal and Wood was very much in charge when it was made. Wood was the face of it, literally when it was announced, which would be extremely odd if he was so against it:
Oh come on, everyone in the sport knows it was Lewis who went club by club to get them to vote against the proposed sponsorship from Betfair in favour of the Stobart deal. Wood obviously isn't going to trash the deal when it was being announced but it was Lewis who was vociferous against gambling sponsorship, something Wood rightly or wrongly dropped once he took full control. Lewis's role in the Stobart deal really hasn't been disputed by anyone.
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Come on, can we ditch this meaningless AI rubbish?
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Wood was largely running the RFL from 2008 onwards when Lewis went part time. Before that they were essentially a double act anyway, although they had differences (e.g. Lewis's desire for the Stobart deal which Wood was very much against).
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3 hours ago, gingerjon said:
Wood is the man who was chief executive when Halifax went bust in the early 2000s. The man who led the RFL for a decade, who oversaw Crusaders going under, the Bradford and Odsal saga, the failed expansion of League 1 that ended with Hemel, Gloucester, Oxford and other clubs disappearing, and the disastrous Toronto Wolfpack experiment.
The individual who led the RFL to £2m in losses and who got a £300,000 severance package when he was forced out of the sport by the clubs in 2018. The man who oversaw cuts in development in England, Scotland and Wales, who oversaw declining participation and disappearing media profile, who brought in the controversial Stobart deal and the appointment of the ineffective Brian Barwick.
But say what you really mean
He's an ###### with a transparent agenda. Several of the things in there are misleading, a couple are downright untrue.
People simply have to realise that Davidson has little more credibility than Gledhill. We urgently need to rely on the handful of decent RL journalists.
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Reality check for Leeds. A soft fixture list has given them a nice run but playing like that against even a weakened St Helens side will result in defeat. A one off bad day or a sign that some of the old failings are still there, we'll soon see.
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Abysmal and impatient for almost all this half by Leeds. Saints have offered very little despite territorial domination but deservedly up.
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1 hour ago, Angelic Cynic said:
Seems the players agent on the Podcast of journalist Mr Shaw who mediated between the governing body/Sports Resolutions/Mark Aston is also firmly on the side of Mark Aston.
I hope the governing body is consequently involving itself with the welfare of Mark Aston.
Could be the other side of the evidence will be forthcoming.
Interesting times...
Citing a players agent as someone both trustworthy and neutral really made me laugh.
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1 hour ago, JohnM said:
Unbelievable that the plotters can kick out such respected, professional, experienced, respected, capable and successful NEDs
* citation needed.
You keep spouting the same ###### but their performance was demonstrably appalling in holding the executive to account.
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From what I've been told (sorry anonymous source) some of the dissatisfaction with Johnson's board was that they would continually suggest everything was going well, congratulating themselves on hitting spurious metrics. And it wasn't just BS, they actually believed it. All the time the game was, in reality, floundering. There was a fundamental disconnect from reality and no understanding or will to understand or address the actual issues. The NEDs are there to hold the exec to account but there was little of that actually happening. It was like they were living in a parallel universe, all the time the game was burning and they thought it was a roaring success.
How the clubs went about changing that is open to debate. I'm very sympathetic to Wood's track record but it probably was unwise to go back to him. However not liking that aspect shouldn't immediately mean you are on the side of the old board. They were, as a collective, a failure. I'm sure there were good people involved with integrity, and you want outside expertise, but as a group they seemed just too disconnected from the reality of the sport.
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2 hours ago, RigbyLuger said:
Results of review delayed, Nigel stays in his role longer...glad it's all going to plan for the plotters.
Anyone got anything on this not written by Davidson? I just find his stuff utterly unreadable and often unreliable.
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19 minutes ago, Damien said:
The dummy spitting continues by the West Australian (and the AFL's media partner)
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Imagine turning comments off on a post of your front page, they never normally do this
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9 minutes ago, Damien said:
More positvely good viewing figures in Perth for SOO:
Context for those figures. Plus the number of people actually at the ground itself.
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42 minutes ago, OriginalMrC said:
I wonder how much money this case has cost and how many academy coaches it could have paid for
A tiny amount compared to what it would cost the sport if there was even a hint that the governing body didn't take this seriously.
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24 minutes ago, Griff said:
She's not a doctor. She was a doctor equivalent, a status seemingly quietly dropped by the RFL. There'll be a few out of work doctor equivalents who'll be disputing your call for high praise.
The way people defending Aston have tried to belittle and shift responsibility onto this lady is the most repulsive aspect of this whole case.
Despite him losing his case you, his other defenders and Aston's ignorant/incompetent friends in the media are still at it.
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The client press, not least the lamentable Davidson, continue to defend him. This has been a particularly shameful period for the Rugby League media.
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11 minutes ago, The Future is League said:
I was looking at the loss, which is always the bottom line in these matters.
Perhaps Peter V'landys could send one of his accounant mates over from Australia to show the RFL how they have turned the Debt in the NRL to the healthy state the NRL accounts are in today.
13 minutes ago, The Future is League said:I was looking at the loss, which is always the bottom line in these matters.
For a business which has years of wildly varying income and which has quite peculiar responsibilities the profit or loss of one year in isolation is not indicative of anything.
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23 minutes ago, The Future is League said:
Shocking is all I can say.
There isn't enough information in that piece of blurb to make any informed comment, positive or negative TBH.
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4 minutes ago, Hopie said:
Let's hope things are different this time.
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28 minutes ago, Dave T said:
There are quite a few blocks with every other row on sale, likely meaning they are selling these another way.
That's not what that usually means
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52 minutes ago, Exiled Wiganer said:
Which might be because 2 of the clubs are looking to or have downsized their grounds.
They look better, and likely give a more enjoyable experience for the people who are there but… smaller grounds reflect a club’s relative failure rather than being brilliant news.
We need to live in the world as it is rather than a fantasy one. Even at their very peak years for crowds Huddersfield haven't been too close to getting a 10k average.
It's suggested they are going for an 8k capacity stadium which I do think is too small and should be more like 10k. But it's obvious that this would be an improvement for them in a whole host of ways.
What I really don't approve of is the idea of moving out of Huddersfield whilst it is built, that's much more dangerous for the club than people seem to realise.
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Just now, Click said:
He's completely One Eyed, eh?
Looks like it to me! And I want Wakefield to win.
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Joke of a penalty to Wakey there, Smith is giving them everything.
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SL clubs look to reinstate Nigel Wood.
in The General Rugby League Forum
Posted · Edited by M j M
Edit, not worth it.