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34 minutes ago, Pen-Y-Bont Crusader said:
And the current set up of the RFL under Wood are an even smaller fish with even less experience and no desire to go beyond their borders.
I think they've demonstrated a remarkable desire to go beyond their borders, they brought Catalan, Toulouse and Toronto into the UK system after all - much more ambitious expansion plans than anything the NRL has tried. But there is always a chronic lack of money so inevitably anything like this has been done on a relative shoestring.
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47 minutes ago, The Daddy said:
Thanks for confirming you can't read.
Always a pleasure.
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15 minutes ago, The Daddy said:
Where in that post does it say that? Where in the post does it talk about expansion?
Can you read?
You think a Nigel Wood review would have "pre-destined conclusions" such as "French clubs out". That's literally what you wrote.
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1 hour ago, The Daddy said:
I know there are a few threads on the current situation the sport finds itself in, in the UK. But none specifically on this so called 'Strategic Review'. This review is significant enough on it's own to deserve its own thread. I also think that we as supporters, tax payers and stakeholders in RL should be questioning the legitimacy of this review.
Some general information about the review and the working party is available online but as fans we need more clarity and transparency. My fear is that the review is politically motivated and commissioned to serve the interests of a few club owners and not the wider game.
I note that a working party has been formed by Nigel Wood and will be led him, but what will the roles of the other people in the group be? What is their scope? Have they been assigned specific focus areas as part of the review? Who is defining and reporting on the outcomes of the review and what metrics will be used to define those outcomes?
For a sport that receives £12 Million of public funding from Sport England I question the legitimacy of this review. Any organisation that receives significant public funding warrants scrutiny about their business approach and accountability.
In the first instance, I would like to know more about the scope of the review and the level of impartiality. For example, Nigel Wood is leading the review and we hope that there will be some level of impartiality, but I would be very surprised if the club owners who have known Wood for a number of years are not aware of his political opinions. Political opinions in respect to the role of French clubs in the league system, the involvement of IMG, views on promotion/relegation. Can the club owners honestly say hand on heart that they do not know Wood's political views on these topics? Especially given his role at Bradford. How can someone that has been so entrenched in the game for over 30 years and literally just finished a role at a Championship club pushing for elevation to SL be truly independent?
My concern is that a review by someone many club owners have known for 25 plus years will lead to curated and pre destined conclusions. Some of which I list below.
- French clubs out or faced with significant entry costs or bonds to play in the league system, Withdrawal of IMG deal, reintroduction of promotion/relegation, outcomes that could prevent future investment
Are you another peddling the myth that Nigel Wood is anti-expansion or anti-French clubs? When all it takes is a quick look at his record to know the reality.
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4 minutes ago, Deadcowboys1 said:
Based on nobody goes. Last year in Leeds, 10 SL teams couldn't fill a 37k stadium. You wouldn't expect many from Broncos or Cats but......
If filling a stadium was a requirement of putting on a Rugby League game we'd have about 30 games played in total worldwide each year.
The use of Elland Road was a bad one from the start, everyone knew it and the event's return to a more suitable and successful venue this year reflects that experience.
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5 hours ago, graveyard johnny said:
yes - it means the shops and stores you would once IDENTIFY as been part of the make up of the everyday high street and town centres in Britain when you went shopping are been closed or replaced with something different - and if someone who had left these shores 25 years ago came back now it would be unrecognisable to how they had it IDENTIFIED in their memories - nothing more for you to add with your pearl clutching Antifa insanity MjM
Are you suggesting you're not anti fascist? I mean it might explain a few things but I didn't quite think you'd gone that far.
You said W H Smith being rebranded was "another example of our country losing its identity". That's either got a meaning we're supposed to read between the lines to find. Or is just utter gibberish.
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42 minutes ago, Gooleboy said:
Have to agree. It's way past its sell by date.
Based on what?
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l'm deeply suspicious of the OP's "our country is losing its identity" stuff because we all know what that really means. As if W H Smith rebranding had anything to do with that stuff.
But from a retail business perspective I'm intrigued why the new owners didn't, or perhaps couldn't, agree a licence to use the name from the continuing company - in this sort of deal that is normally pretty easy. My suspicion is that W HS Smith do not want to be associated in any way with the widespread closures redundancies and restructuring that are almost certain to happen to many of the T G Jones stores.
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1 minute ago, redjonn said:
I actually thought that was what he was referring too... jenner never picked that up as it was reported Sam came down the tunnel to accompany ref and hence speak to ref... hence the comments on 2nd half penalties being excessive...
Yes it was clear he was referring to that.
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He should definitely start accompanying refs up the tunnel at half time to give them his feedback on their performance given how successful that approach appears to be.
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2 minutes ago, Leeds Wire said:
Think Brendon Tuuta, but without the skills.
The baby faced assassin? Blimey, he just keeps sounding better and better.
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1 minute ago, Leeds Wire said:
Every single tackle he’s involved in he’s either holding down or niggling or holding on to opposition players or looking for a penalty - either with or without the ball.
I’ve not been this annoyed with anyone for years. He’s a disgrace.
Not watching but he sounds good to me.
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1 hour ago, Toby Chopra said:
Can't see why it would. Sky like it, and the NRL have copied it. It needs a reboot though.
It's a great concept, if only Nigel Wood had been able to copyright the idea he'd have made a lot of money given how other sports leagues have copied it.
It does need a bit of a refresh in Super League but it's coming up to 20 years old now so that's maybe not a surprise.
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6 minutes ago, StandOffHalf said:
. The fact that other players haven't been sanctioned bears that out.
I've no idea how you've managed to conclude that.
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The RFL noted his 60th 4 years ago.
Ray French at his best too.
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1 minute ago, saintspete83 said:
If/when that 3rd tier gets opened then I do see the potential of £25 tickets and £15 for concessions.
But is it reasonable to put a load of cheap tickets on sale in the upper tiers after all people buying in the lower bowl, including those in the early buy window, have paid more? It'd be very RFL but Moran is supposed to be better and smarter than that.
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The gap between Cat 4 and 3 at Wembley is very strange.
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45 minutes ago, jacksy said:
Edwards high tackle-off.
Morley High tackle-off
Fitzgibbon elbow to Sculthorpes head-pen
Mason punch to head-pen. Mason elbow to defencless Long face-pen.
There was another incident of an aussie stamping on one of the GB boys head and i believe that ended up just a pen.
Im sure others can remember, other examples of the ''rules for you but not for me''.
Ryan Hall's fingertip try disallowed.
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He's such an absolute, incompetent, clueless dick isn't he? Is it any wonder that the international game is in such a state when this buffoon is in charge?
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Corporate at Leeds is on sale. Well bits of it are. Intriguingly prices are pitched at similar levels to Leeds games.
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Just now, jacksy said:
I always want neutral refs for gb v oz. This time i want uk refs and for the good of the international game and the game in this country. i want them have aussies over.
Problem: British referees feel so obligated to demonstrate their neutrality that they tend to make interpretations that favour the Aussies (*honourable exception - Bob Connolly first test 2001).
Australian refs stick to what they know and tend to make interpretations that favour the Aussies.
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44 minutes ago, phiggins said:
If we get good gates for these test matches, can we get Moran to promote the Challenge Cup final and Magic Weekend?
Warrington's crowds have not always been particularly stellar, especially in recent years, so let's see how he does.
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20 minutes ago, Dave T said:
But I think this is where they would have a challenge. I don't think they would want to cull Leigh and Hull KR who are successes at the moment, just like they have a fair concentration of clubs in Oz. It's why I suggested the top 8 or even 10 at the moment plus expansion via London and Toulouse.
And this is where it all falls apart, as it has repeatedly anytime people have tried to select the best/largest clubs in the UK. It's all a big game of musical chairs, of who is up and who is down at any moment in time. Give it a couple of years and Wakey could easily become that newly indispensable team. 35 years ago it would have been Widnes. Or Halifax.
We have four or five genuinely large clubs then around ten to 15 who, when things are going well, are very valuable but who, over the course of a long period, are all much of a muchness, with as much "right" (as defined by this sort of exercise) to be there as each other. And the forced exclusion of any of them causes untold damage to the game in the area that club represents.
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32 minutes ago, Colin James said:
The aim must be to sell out before the first test kicks off. We've got months to do it, build the hype, branding around every ground in the country this season. The results of the first two tests should be irrelevant by the time it comes around.
It's a conservative choice for sure.
It'll sell out.
Will be interesting to see the ticket prices for that game as they have the opportunity to bump them up. On top of picking up the Leeds corporate market and lower venue hire costs the net receipts of that game could stand up ok against the others.
London Broncos (Merged Threads)
in The General Rugby League Forum
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It's true, the RFL has never been in a position to fund a great expansion strategy. That's just the reality of the game in the UK. But when opportunities have presented themselves, at least in the Wood era, they were grasped.
This continued rubbish about "getting rid" of the French clubs is a gaslighting attempt to attack Wood, despite him being one of their staunchest supporters. As if an RFL run by him and with Hetherington an apparently key player would ever allow that to happen.