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2 minutes ago, Mark S said:
What is Oledski chelping at Wilkin about? Wilkin always talks Leeds up.
Wilkin is terribly scarred by how his playing career panned out vs Leeds. It's comical how much he loves trashing them (albeit some of it has been justified in recent years).
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27 minutes ago, Angelic Cynic said:
Yet Nigel didn't impress a former elite club owner when he negotiated the last of his broadcast deals.The elite club owner who joined him introducing Elstone.
It was a crazy stance to take about that deal back then. In retrospect it seems even more bonkers given how exceptional that deal was.
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11 minutes ago, Damien said:
Let's be honest that's not much of an insight is it?
McManus does have form for unhinged press releases. And God knows what discontent lies behind some of the asides. You can just imagine the SL club CEO/owner meetings (all male of course) fuming over some real or perceived idiocy of the RFL Board.
None of that is to say I didn't think the RFL was underperforming and I don't really have a problem with the board being purged (and I'm generally sympathetic to Nigel Wood).
But I'd love to know more about some of the more trivial bees which appear to have been living in Mcmanus's bonnet, they sound fascinating.
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9 minutes ago, daz39 said:
Yes, the rent is based on attendances figures so as ours grew it cost us more, obviously they have fallen every year since 2013 so it's now catching up with us.
So they went up, it cost more. They've gone down and it's a problem? I mean gates going down are obviously a problem but in the context of the rent that's a puzzling statement.
I still have no real comprehension why favourable rent terms for the Giants were not a part of relinquishing control of the stadium.
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3 hours ago, daz39 said:
It's also a massive financial burden to the club and will see it's demise if they were to stay there.
I'll ask again - the club moved there when they were getting crowds of about 1,000 and it presumably stacked up financially. How is it an impossible burden now they get crowds of four or five times that?
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57 minutes ago, DI Keith Fowler said:
Apparently John recieves two emails a week accusing him of being a "flaming drongo". What I want to know is, who's sending the other one?
It's not me but I think I'm going to start.
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58 minutes ago, Worzel said:
For anyone with access to his Patreon John Davidson has a great piece on the parallels between Beaumont and Trump. Brilliantly describes how the former's Trumpian narcissism and the media's desperate desire to leap on any opinion that generates clicks (whatever their merit) are acting as a self-reinforcing flywheel making
the Brian Potter of rugby leagueDerek Beaumont project far more power than he deserves.There's an argument for the quiet, competent leadership of people like Radlinski and Lakin. But on the flipside if it leaves the field clear for blowhards to persuade enough other people that their populist, "magic wand" nonsense is better than actual hard work then it may be a mistake. I think I may well say that to Paul or someone else at Rovers at the weekend... in fact I might even do it in front of the leopard print narcisus himself if he comes over in his ridiculous car
https://www.patreon.com/posts/will-we-see-end-124689435
The Rugby League media can, and does, do better than John Davidson.
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4 hours ago, Stuff Smith said:
Remember Steve Morris and Forum 2. Had no idea the club had tried to ban it! Thank god they didn't; I once won a replica shirt in a competition on there!
Also, very occasionally contributed to RSRL. God, I feel old.It's coming up to 30 years since RSRL was established in late 1995. Three decades of internet argument. I feel it's been worth it
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2 minutes ago, RP London said:
The drummer in Joy Division?
Or Slippery Steve Morris who played for St George.
But the one I'm thinking of ran the Broncos Forum 2 and was active on rlfans and RSRL, not sure about here.
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15 minutes ago, RP London said:
I remember anglefire now that you mention it.. wow!
Who was Steve Morris ?
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5 minutes ago, daz39 said:
I know but how do we know that they aren't at a stage to start the process?
Maybe they are. But what's the fastest a club has ever got in the modern era from first planning to first game?
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52 minutes ago, whatmichaelsays said:
It is possible to believe that Halifax is not the right move whilst also believing that the JSS is a venue that is holding them back in so many respects.
The ideal scenario is a more suitable venue in Huddersfield. That doesn't exist. So the options appear to be either:
a) Stay at a ground that they know doesn't work for them, where they have struggled to make their match days something that people want to attend (even with some of the cheapest tickets in the league), and where there some maintenance significant bills in the post.
b) Find a temporary venue that doesn't appear to have those issues, even if it is far from ideal and far from free of it's own issues, whilst looking for alternatives.
I'm not saying B Is better, but I'm saying that there is plenty of evidence to support the claim that A isn't a good option. It's certainly not one they can "market" their way out of. The people of Huddersfield don't want what they Giants are selling.
I don't think many are disagreeing that the ideal is a new, right sized, stadium in Huddersfield. But is moving to a ground in another town entirely in the, supposed, interim is the right decision now? That's the point. And I keep coming back to it being a club killer historically, no matter how hard people try to make it work.
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7 minutes ago, daz39 said:
Who says they haven't?
The formal planning process is a public thing you know.
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19 minutes ago, Agbrigg said:
This purported new ground in Huddersfield, where will it be ? As far as I know there hasn't even been a location identified. Then the various processes of buying, planning and building. I suspect the minimum time in Halifax will be at the very least three seasons.
I think it's more likely to be nearer a decade given they've not even started the planning process yet.
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Everyone has known how awful Elland Road is for years/decades. But they played a (sold out) World Cup semi there just a couple of years ago so a few negative comments from Magic, no matter how justified, can't possibly be a real part of the reason for not going there.
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If Hetherington led an attempt to reconnect with lapped fans how do people think that would play out? Are so many now completely done with the club?
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I refused to pay the £10 so reverted just to rlfans for a while but was on here before then.
Also on rec.sport.rugby.league, albeit mostly lurking, from its original breakaway from rec.sport.rugby in 1995 onwards until it petered out. And John Drake's RLSA website and its original Virtual Terrace, essentially a bulletin board sort of thing, until it got absorbed into rlfans. But mostly I was on rlfans which I joined when it opened in 1999.
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Would it be a surprise if this had been over-egged?
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4 minutes ago, daz39 said:
Simply put, the club will lose more money at the JSS than it will at the Shay.
The stadium is a massive financial millstone around the Giants neck, that will get heavier once the football clubs owner owns it outright, we simply have to move out of it to survive, it's not just about having somewhere to play.
Genuine question: Davy majority owned the stadium at some point. Why did the subsequent negotiations to sell it not involve leaving the Giants with a very preferable rate for using it? How on earth has it become cheaper to leave the town than continue playing there?
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1 hour ago, gingerjon said:
I genuinely don’t remember that.
Toronto, talking up other north American clubs entering the structure, bringing Toulouse into the British leagues?
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2 minutes ago, RigbyLuger said:
The coup cares about Cornwall and Newcastle. Honest.
One of the criticisms of Wood last time was that he was too interested in expansion clubs.
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25 minutes ago, JF1 said:
Moving to a different town to pick up IMG points is considered more important than winning games on the pitch to ensure Super League status.
It's a kind of madness really. Ignoring the impact on IMG points the question should be is this in the best interests of the club and its fanbase?
I really struggle to see it when there is no problem playing at the existing stadium until a new one is settled. If it really is a bluff to coerce Kirklees Council then one has to begin to think Ken Davy is the not the brilliant tactician we thought he was.
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1 hour ago, daz39 said:
Because it improves our IMG score
We won't lose as much money as we currently do at the football ground
It gives us time to stabilise the club before our own stadium is built
Ken is a successful businessman and putting the sporting side of it to one side he obviously thinks this is a good deal for him and his other business interests
More importantly it's on a bus route with a stop at the end of my road!!!!!!
Inconceivable that Huddersfield moving out of Huddersfield is being met with such acceptance by fans when leaving a club's home town is usually a club killer.
What reduction in crowd size is built into this improvement of the IMG score assumption?
Does the RFL have to approve this extraordinary move away from Huddersfield?
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Is anyone yet able to tell me why this is a good idea?
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SL clubs look to reinstate Nigel Wood.
in The General Rugby League Forum
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Unquestioningly quoting the gaslighting of the utterly ineffective Troy Grant without putting into context his manifest failures undermines what could have been a decent piece.