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  1. 22 minutes ago, meast said:

    How do you define a "well run club"?


    Good question.

    It's very hard indeed to include Leigh in that category given the history of chaos under the current owner.

    Saints, Warrington and especially Wigan meanwhile have relied on millions of pounds of owner money to prop them up.

    In contrast Cas and Wakey are run as very tight ships, they spend the money they have, don't accumulate particularly huge debts to their owners or to third parties and try to balance their budgets. 

    So which are the well run clubs?

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  2. 30 minutes ago, phiggins said:

    Is the technology there? If we had video ref with the current production available at non-TV games, I'm not sure a single decision would ever get overturned anyway. 

    Once we have enough cameras at games, there is then the question of whether we have enough referees to get a VR at every game.

    In terms of sheer numbers of officials, you'd save on 2 x in goal judges for every VR game. Although the seniority of the two roles obviously differ. 

  3. 5 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said:

    The CEO shouldn't let it get to that stage 

    Like it or lump it he is in a players market.....he can try and throw his weight around if he wants but it's the results that will be impacted 

    Wigan don't seem to be having any problems with high quality recruitment ...maybe GH can do a few days there and pick up some tips 

    People have been slagging Hetherington off for years about how difficult he is to negotiate with and how hard to prise contract ££ out of him it is. I've seen interviews with ex-Sheffield Eagles players who still comment on it 😄

    Now that was very successful in the Golden era at Leeds. But it might not be now and it might be that players with high opinions of their value like Austin can't cope with it. But it's not a new thing and is absolutely nothing to do with not having money to spend, more about maximising what you get for that money.

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  4. 1 hour ago, Dave T said:

    I hope you're right with your optimism, but are there any examples of this approach ever working? 

    Has a brand new inexperienced head coach (c12m assistant experience) ever done anything major at the top of SL? 

    Ellery at St Helens? Although he was picking up a less troubled club than Warrington.

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  5. 52 minutes ago, redjonn said:

    Not sure what the other contributor meant by forward thinking and innovative....

    For me the Rhinos club have in addition to the SL team, the womens team, LDSL & PDRL teams, plus a Netball SL team... I am assuming GH as CEO is a key component of having the Club build that wider sporting Club as well a part in building the new stadium.  Plus building a substantial commercial revenue stream, that is its biggest revenue stream, unlike other SL clubs for which the Sky/central funding is the biggest revenue source.   Not least a large Rhinos foundation that does substantial community work and is maybe the leading SL foundation in comparison to many other RL clubs.

    Quite. If Hetherington isn't forward thinking enough then I dread to think what the other 11 SL CEO's are.

  6. 1 hour ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said:

    So if it isn't a budget issue why has ...

    Their best half Austin been allowed to leave 

    Why has Walters been allowed to leave ? 

    Nothing to do with "budget" if you mean Leeds don't budget to spend up to cap. Austin at this stage who knows, but it's highly unlikely to be because Leeds could save a couple of months of his salary 😂

    Walters, Leeds offered less than Wigan. That's hugely regrettable but it made a lot more sense at the time than now.

    But again it doesn't mean Leeds don't have full salary cap to spend.

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  7. 11 minutes ago, Mark S said:

    The CEO is responsible for making major corporate decisions, managing overall operations, and setting the company's strategic direction. They are accountable to the board of directors or stakeholders of the company and are often the public face of the organization.

    source: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/ceo.asp#:~:text=The CEO is responsible for,public face of the organization.

    Yeah thanks. And tell us what you think a "forward thinking, innovative" CEO would bring to Leeds that Hetherington doesn't given that, since he's largely given up his role of identifying players to sign, his primary role in running the business is to ensure the company generates the revenues to support the football side.

  8. 44 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said:

    His press conference before was telling. Made it clear he knew very little about the goings on behind the scenes 

    I think Rohan Smith's usual evasiveness has been misinterpreted as him not knowing what was going on.


    44 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said:

    Feels like Hetherington just wants to have the squad/team set up on the cheap (relative to their big budget) .

    Playing budgets are not being squeezed as you imply, they'll continue to spend full cap plus marquees and Caddick in particular is very determined to spend as much as it takes.


  9. 5 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said:

    I think if Smith isn’t there I think it will be his choice, I don’t think he’s getting the support from those above with regards to the squad, I also think he’s getting sick of the ruck in SL and it’s spoiling the game, and I think he’s spot on in that regard 

    I agree I think it's highly unlikely Smith will be getting sacked any time soon. He's been given a mandate to turn it round and I'm pretty sure they'll give him at least until next year to do it. Hetherington very rarely sacks coaches.

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  10. 9 hours ago, The Masked Poster said:
    9 hours ago, M j M said:

    Leeds are happy for you to sit in the North Stand with other Leigh fans.

    Or not come at all, that's also fine

    What a ridiculous attitude.

    If your proposal is that it's fine if RL fans stay away from attending live games, then congratulations because your idea seems to be working. 

    Not really. If you don't like the features of a ground then you don't have to go, that's fine.

    I go to most Leeds away games but have not been to Leigh since the Catalan MPG because I don't really like the lack of atmosphere and the flat packery of the place.

    People are free to not come to Headingley, where the club has managed to retain the most storied ground in the sport's history but with the compromises that involved vs a new build (a new build which hardly any - if any - Leeds fans would have approved of).

    It's a free choice.

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  11. 33 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

    C'mon Chris. Leeds allocate that end to visiting fans, and like you lot when you travel away you want to congregate together, to support the team together, to make as much noise as possible together, as Spidey says be an hospitable host and put visitors under cover, all the SL stadiums West of the Pennines can accommodate this.

    Leeds are happy for you to sit in the North Stand with other Leigh fans.

    Or not come at all, that's also fine.


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  12. 15 minutes ago, The Blues Ox said:

    This is the last season for normal P & R.

    On a side note isn't it great to see Wakefield V Castleford has sold out for their relegation scrap in what would otherwise be a completley dead rubber game that might attract just a couple of thousand fans. Just goes to show the drama that a battle like this can create. The only down side is it takes focus off the top of the table.

    Yes, who else simply who can't wait for the excitement of someone at the RFL revealing the results of a contrived spreadsheet exercise to determine who will be in the top flight 🙄

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  13. 7 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said:

    Eh? Why should they do that.

    Theres absolutely nothing stopping away fans buying tickets for any of the stands.

    But those who adore whining wouldn't be able to whine if they bought tickets in the other stands.

    Leigh also have an allocation of tickets for the North Stand so they can't even whine about not being able to buy directly for one of the other areas. But they will nonetheless.


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  14. 1 hour ago, GeordieSaint said:

    Great stuff! Yet Saints will make the playoffs and Leeds may very well not. For a club your size with the resources available, you are atrocious this season. 

    *Atrocious at times (OK most of the time).

    Beating Catalan, Wigan, Saints and Wire, the latter three away, but losing to Cas x2 and Wakey sums up how inconsistent this team has been. If you'd been placing money on the underdog in each Leeds game this season you would have made quite a bit of money. The winning bits are why I remain convinced the basics of this Leeds team are sound, especially the key young players in the pack. But the inability of Smith to tease out any form of consistency from them makes me worried that he hasn't got the ability to get into his players minds and sort out the issues lurking there.

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  15. On 18/07/2023 at 15:23, ATLANTISMAN said:

    Right now there are 3 clubs that are well ahead of the game in terms of marketing pre match entertainment (And especially with the Dragons VIP hospitality options) 


    * Catalans Dragons

    * Hull KR

    * Leigh Leopards 

    What does "VIP hospitality options" have to do with pre game entertainment? They are fundamentally different things and clubs other than those listed are the league's leaders in that area.

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