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1 hour ago, lucky 7 said:
The present uncumbents at the RFL have zero interest in expanding outside the M62 corridor, and zero interest in developing juniors outside the M62 corridor and there main interest is proping up badly run clubs in the M62 corridor by fleecing French clubs,
This is just more ignorant bullsh1t I'm afraid. And isn't helpful in actually progressing the London cause.
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So has the McNamara departure actually been announced by the Dragons or has he just been disappeared?
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2 hours ago, gingerjon said:
The argument for P&R should be based around the intensity of the games and the casual interest generated because it really does not make a positive difference to crowds unless you get to a “winner survives” final match - and even then not always.
I agree generally on the crowd point, although I'd root the P&R argument more in general sporting fairness than intensity.
That said in Cas's two relegation seasons this fixture got 11,731 and 11,016, (Friday night and Sunday afternoon respectively).
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26 minutes ago, Eddie said:
Given the poor form of Cas this season and for the last few I think that’s more than acceptable. They had 5k against Salford the other week.
Given how close it is to Leeds and it being one of Cas's two biggest home games it should have got more. Only two Cas vs Leeds games have got a lower crowd than that in the past 20 years.
Sunday afternoon or Friday evening would no doubt would have got a few more in but it looked a disappointing turnout from both sets of fans.
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8,069 at the Jungle yesterday. The day and time were sub optimal but still a poor crowd for this fixture.
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6 hours ago, Damien said:
Indeed. I see why Leeds fans rate him highly and he was instrumental in their success. However if we are talking about international level for me he wasn't big enough for Loose Forward and wasn't fast enough or good enough for Stand Off.
Broadly agree with that. There were plenty of reasons to not pick Sinfield as well as some to chose him. It's difficult for an international coach to give one player the sort of responsibility that Sinfield had at club level which may have been the reason Mcnamara tried to commit to that Sinfield/Chase partnership so early to give them time to learn to boss the team.
The point earlier about shoehorning was most relevant when Sinfield was repeatedly picked at hooker.
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Nice summary of upcoming games. Shame they got the kick off wrong for Leeds vs Wakey next Saturday. Which has been moved two hours later to be shown on BBC...
(And yes I know these aren't a BBC specific commentary team)
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This BBC TV deal continues to look materially worse than the C4 one.
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20 minutes ago, THE RED ROOSTER said:
Massively underwhelming from the club, especially in light of the decision to rebrand why push a third Kit.
Players are on their way though, not just the Eccles interview but also this.
I like to be sourced rather than sauced when posting on here.
More troublingly there is this exchange on Steve Mascord's twitter - Reply to Cameron Don-Duncan Tweet
NRL attitude to London Broncos ownership group
This does tally with the disparaging comment about Gary Hetherington that West Tigers CEO Shane Richardson made on the podcast with James Graham. As Richardson is supposedly leading on the NRL sales pitch to Super League. The Mascord tweet is ominous.
The idea that Richardson has any credibility in Australia when he talks about the game in the UK is troubling indeed.
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1 hour ago, The Masked Poster said:
Well we know that's not the case, one worked because there was a coherent plan which used the name regularly and got it imprinted on the minds of the Leeds public. Combined with the fierce rivalry at the time against Bradford and you had a great marketing tool - Rhinos v Bulls, which worked well. Add to this a great team, many of whom were locals and.....wallop!
One felt simply stuck on to the end of the team name because it was alliterative and fans didn't truly get behind. I never once (not once) heard a Wakey fan say they were going to see the Wildcats. But absolutely loads of Leeds fans (old ones too) did use the term Rhinos.
I'm not sure why you are pretending it was all just coincidence that Leeds took off in the late 90's and early 00's. There was a lot of effort involved.
There was a huge amount of work at Leeds led by Hetherington and later Rob Oates.
But the introduction of the name was cack handed at best and I would say had zero impact on the future trajectory of the club. It stuck because they stumbled upon a charismatic person to inhabit the Ronnie suit and the team very quickly became formidably competitive on the field.
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1 hour ago, gingerjon said:
My understanding was that Aston was so stabbed in the back that a job was invented for him to return to and there's no movement on his appeal so he's secure?
Or has that changed.
Aston stabbed himself in the front through his actions.
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3 hours ago, Gooleboy said:
He wasn't quick enough for a Stand Off, especially against top International opposition. His position was loose forward, and he was a good one.
He was too small to be a loose forward in the later part of his career, which is why he barely played there after about 2010.
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22 minutes ago, StandOffHalf said:
Didn't Sinfield play scrum-half for the semi-final, with Widdop finally being given his crack? Sinfield was an awesome leader and goal-kicker, but I feel he just wasn't suitable as an international #6. Widdop was an outstanding #6 at that time.
Shoe-horning, in the sense that MacNamara had O'Loughlin and Sinfield and wanted to get both in the team. I just see parallels with how MacNamara selected Partington and Garcia.
Sinfield could play anywhere but he was mostly a stand off.
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9 minutes ago, StandOffHalf said:
Yeah, Garcia at 9 is a baffling call. Almost as baffling as shoe-horning Sinfield in a stand-off over Widdop in 2013.
Not really on topic but why would you consider that shoe horning given Sinfield was the dominant stand off in Super League through that period?
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54 minutes ago, Hopie said:
To be clear, I know what "channel" it is on, the question is why is it not on one of the main channels when they have nothing in particular to show, no live event just repeating something they have shown a multitude of times. It COULD be on regular tv if the BBC wanted it to be.
It's annoying because this is the Yorkshire's biggest SL derby (excl. Hull), usually has strong crowds and almost always delivers on the field. It would be a great one to have on proper TV.
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1 minute ago, sam4731 said:
Wembley is 18 years old. The most important part of the ground is it's name. Wembley will always be Wembley and a new generation will have their own version of the memories that the old stadium created.
We've had enough time now for it to strongly seem that isn't going to be the case.
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1 hour ago, Henson Park Old Firm said:
Replace 1 dragon with a bronco, get rid of the feathers on the crown make it the badge more minimalistic and replace the Latin with "London Rugby League Football Club" with a Est 1980 somewhere....
Ladies and Gentlemen, Officially London FC or Broncos for short...
Fake heraldry is not a good look.
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Rob Oates in this interview runs through the practical, commercial and financial aspects of bidding for the right to play at Vegas and how they formed a partnership with Hull KR on the proposal. He's very clear that Leeds's starting point was that being the home team was unviable for them.
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9 minutes ago, Click said:
Wasn't it initially 15k seats?
Yes 15,000.
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5 minutes ago, Father Gascoigne said:
The first decade at Wembley didn't have a crowd under 76,000. That suggests the issue is twofold: the stadium is too far away from the clubs typically involved (obviously true), and the novelty of a daytrip in London has worn off.
As has been discussed on here many times for the first decade Club Wembley ticket holders were included in the declared attendance whether they came to the game or not so taking those figures and comparing them to subsequent ones is particularly misleading.
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34 minutes ago, Dave T said:
I think this is where Wembley sometimes works against you with its size. It's massive and we can see that there are still 60k or so left. No rush.
I do think if this was in a 50k ground in London, based on the rush created by scarcity in the North we'd have seen it sold out in London too imo.
That's not to say we should have gone to a 50k ground, just trying to put some reasoning round why Wembley seems to be a slow burner.
It's also not a great stadium in lots of ways. Maybe it's because it's rarely full for Rugby League but after all these years it still hasn't captured the imagination of fans of our sport in the way the old one did.
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21 minutes ago, Moe syszlak said:
Meninga and burgess will be in charge at Perth. Announcement coming next week. The week before Wembley, great timing wire!!
That coaching team is one I'd appoint if I was trying to grab headlines rather than trying to build a club.
I'm already worried that the Perth side will fall prey to gimmicks rather than the hard work of establishing this venture for long term success. Appointing people with somewhat slight credibility in the world of club coaching would lend more to that idea.
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1 hour ago, Wollo Wollo Wayoo said:
Unfortunately for Cas they can't play Shudds and Salford every week so another defeat is almost certain.
Leeds by 20.
The results of Cas vs Leeds games at the Jungle is rarely informed by the form of the teams leading up to it.
I remember one year Leeds winning the WCC vs Melbourne one week and going to bottom of the table Cas the week after and getting a good spanking. There's plenty of similar examples. I might put a couple of quid on Cas to soften the blow of a likely loss.
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Cas by 4. This is always a coin toss game and form going into it is irrelevant.
London Broncos (Merged Threads)
in The General Rugby League Forum
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You claim the RFL has "zero interest" in expanding the sport and that the RFL is only interested in "propping up" heartland clubs.
I mean it doesn't take a lot of thought to understand why it is rubbish? Most of the people running the sport are Rugby League obsessives who would love to have more money to fund more things, especially in expansion areas.
You could have tried to be even a bit nuanced, you could have tried to understand who the RFL are vs Super League and where the money is, and how little there is. But I get that's not your style.