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TheTerminator

Member Since 26 May 2007
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#2997459 davis joins eagles

Posted by TheTerminator on Yesterday, 05:48 PM

Had a poor season in comparison to 2013. Looked unfit and sluggish all the way through. For the record, that was my judgement before we found out he was leaving.


#2993592 A pretty resonable request

Posted by TheTerminator on 11 September 2014 - 11:07 PM

Could you explain the 'bad blood between the clubs' bit? Is it between Mark Aston and his former coach John Kear? Is it between the players?
Is it invented because of the ignorance of the Batley chairman and the willingness of the RFL to 'follow a precedent which was wrong' as Ian Lenagan almost said on BBC Radio Manchester tonight?
Or is it just the erroneous,ill-informed Batley fans jumping to the wrong conclusion and believing Mark Aston informed the RFL of their inability to read and digest rules and regulations?

Liked the Kevin Keegan bit.Deliberate irony after he lost a 12 points lead,ain't it? Ain't it?

I'd be interested to know why you think that 'following the precedent was wrong'? Did Ian Lenagan expand on why he felt that 'following the precedent was wrong'?
Can you justify why you feel so strongly that precedent should not have been 'followed' in this case? How was it fair that Batley were originally punished after committing an 'offence' for which up to 6 other clubs were given only a slap on the wrist a year earlier?
Go on, please explain.


#2992506 Sl backchat

Posted by TheTerminator on 10 September 2014 - 05:37 PM

Again show me a link to the rfl that says we have breached regs .You gained points illegal we didn't simple as

Why are you still here?


#2991911 Bawtry rd - sheffield

Posted by TheTerminator on 09 September 2014 - 10:24 PM

It would be interesting to know why Owlerton is unavailable this Sunday? Has the lease on the Portakabin expired?


#2990247 Play offs baby

Posted by TheTerminator on 07 September 2014 - 07:14 PM

Fantastic performance today. Let's kick on now, show some ambition and really develop the club both on and off the pitch.


#2989528 RUMOURS

Posted by TheTerminator on 06 September 2014 - 04:09 PM

You mean on the verge of getting you relegated and looking to jump ship at the first opportunity?

'Looking to jump ship at the first opportunity?'. You know John Kear personally, then?
As for being 'on the verge of getting you relegated', I'd wager that most coaches who'd had to almost entirely build a new squad in the space of three months (and on a pittance) would have struggled this season. Do you not agree?


#2988541 RUMOURS

Posted by TheTerminator on 04 September 2014 - 07:58 PM

There is more mileage in this story to come

Country mileage??


#2988044 Aston & Woods in League Express

Posted by TheTerminator on 03 September 2014 - 10:55 PM

Well BD you should have allowed the human at the end of your chain to comment,because you are way off the mark.
You should hang your head in shame,as should the individual who removed earlier posts of mine while allowing others to insult Dave Woods and Mark Aston.

As for the svelte poster above who wrote '' Wonder what Ian Talbot's got to say about that,personally I wouldn't have Dave Woods in my club what's he done apart from bring every club he's been at into disrepute!!

You must get paid for the number of ridiculous postings you make.How does not having a contract renewed after guiding a team to promotion at Castleford equate with 'bringing a club into disrepute'? How does getting the sack,unfairly,at Gateshead in December 2008 and the club being liquidated in 2009 as a legal case is prepared equate with bringing a club into disrepute and the same applies at York.

Not even solicitors use the 'deflect attention' defence.Though it may work with the RFL.

So you don't think that travelling to Australia to recruit players and doctoring the terms of the contracts he took with him was 'disreputable'? I'd say that it was.


#2985821 Rotherham

Posted by TheTerminator on 31 August 2014 - 10:34 AM

Those Pakistani Muslims didn't exploit any of their own social group. To say that none were available is a convenient get-out for the pc apolologists. It's just as easy to get a Muslim teenager hooked on heroin as it is a white teenager. And the Pakistani Muslims control the heroin trade.

According to the Rotherham report, they actually did exploit some members of their own community. In terms of the disparity in the proportion of victim ethnicity, as I've previously suggested it would be prudent if you took a step back and assessed the vulnerability and accessibility factors - which is exactly what the abusers do. If you're not sure of what 'vulnerability factors' are, do some research. To liken 'vulnerability' to the ease in which an individual can become hooked on heroin is, in the case of sexual exploitation, pretty facile.
As for 'PC apologism', my posts on this subject are based upon my experiences (and those of my colleagues) working in and around this field. I don't have any PC agenda.


#2985808 Rotherham

Posted by TheTerminator on 31 August 2014 - 09:56 AM

Racism has everything to do with the recently-exposed exploitation of white girls in Rotherham, Rochdale, Oxford and Keighley. Sectarianism certainly does.

The people doing the exploitation are organised gangs of male ethnic-Pakistani Muslims. I wouldn't think anyone believes that these are the only places where this exploitation has occurred and is still taking place. In every case the huge majority of the perpetrators can be expected to be organised gangs of male ethnic-Pakistani Muslims.

If no racism was involved, you would expect those self-same girls to also having had their vulnerability exploited by organised gangs of white English adults, or gangs of Sikh adults, or gangs of Hindu adults or gangs of ethnic West Indians or gangs of ethnic Scots or gangs of ethnic Irish or gangs of ethnic Welsh or gangs of ethnic Poles etc.


But they haven't, have they.

You need to sharpen up on your understanding of what constitutes 'racism'. Child Sexual Exploitation in the UK might well be unique to a subculture that has developed within a particular community, but it's got very, very little to do - if anything at all, to do with 'racism'.
By the way, it's not unique to the British Pakistani community. Many gangs of abusers also happen to be comprised of individuals with Eastern European ethnicity - especially those operating in the South of England. One such gang, based in London, was convicted only recently.


#2985786 Rotherham

Posted by TheTerminator on 31 August 2014 - 08:44 AM

. However...and there's always a however...one of the remaining controversial issues, and one that some of us feel has made this whole situation so much worse, is the fear of being denounced as racist, and how to some extent this fear has been exacerbated (or not, according to your views) by the liberal left. (See Dennis McShanes comments above. He too has direct personal experience in his previous work as an MP, though no doubt his comments about the guardian will be denounced as irrelevant.

Still, this whole issue is now being openly discussed and it is good to know that people will not be denounced as racist for disagreeing., wil they?

I really feel that the 'wouldn't do anything because they were scared of being branded racist' card is being a little overplayed here.
Again quoting from experience, and again in specfic reference to child sexual exploitation cases which were reported but never followed up, I'm willing to wager that the vast majority of the abuse was allowed to perpetuate due to the unhealthy attitude of law enforcement agencies towards both lower class White British teenage females and looked-after children.
A colleague of mine who worked in a children's residential home once expressed her frustration to me, that whilst it was obvious that children in her care - some of them well underage, were being exploited left, right and centre, when she reported them missing the police just didn't want to know. According to her, they weren't even willing to look for them - not even when they were made abundantly aware that the child concerned had been picked up in a car by a considerably older man. I've heard similar tales from Foster Carers.
If you do your research, you'll find that UK law enforcement attitudes towards looked-after children and also children at the very bottom of the White British class system pile are appalling - and have been for some time. It's a case of 'who cares, she's a little slag', or 'she's run away from home again? We're not going to waste our time looking for her, she always comes back anyway'.
So, whilst you can't entirely rule the 'we might be branded racist' fears out of any Rotherham case review, I would suggest that they're not too widely overplayed. If they are being overplayed - which would certainly seem to be the case, might it be because of an underlying agenda?


#2985733 Rotherham

Posted by TheTerminator on 31 August 2014 - 12:07 AM

Having gained some experience in child sexual exploitation issues through work, I feel able to assert that victims are not targeted because of their race, but overtly because of their vulnerabilities. The men who perpetrate these crimes are extremely cunning and select their victims very carefully. Not every girl who crosses their path will be targeted for abuse.
In the main, the majority of CSE victims happen to be White British simply because White British teenage females are massively more likely to be living in local authority care (as has been advertised, looked-after children are the preferred target of these abusers) than those of any other ethnicity. A child living in care is highly accessible and wide open to manipulation. Foster carers and care home staff have no legal right to restrain a child from leaving a placement. Their only course of action would be to contact the police, who perhaps - for various reasons, might not always offer the most effective level of protection to children of a certain status.
Similarly, how many Asian teenage females do you see roaming the streets in the early hours of the morning whilst parents are at home and seemingly oblivious? Very, very few. CSE abusers deliberately target young females who are devoid of parental guidance and boundaries. Could it be proposed that the majority of children in this country who are devoid of parental guidance and boundaries happen to be White British?
Racist attitudes on the part of Asian/Muslim abusers don't come into this. Men involved in the world of sexual exploitation are looking for free sex with ANYONE who might be an appropriate target - irrespective of race. It just so happens that, in this country, White British female teenagers represent the most vulnerable and easily-exploitable demographic.
Just to clarify, am I saying that no Asian people hold racist views towards Caucasian people? No, that would be ludicrous - of course. What I am saying is that racism has little, if anything, to do with sexual exploitation - either in this country or any other.


#2985373 Appeal

Posted by TheTerminator on 30 August 2014 - 09:45 AM

I must have missed the posting where anyone asked for your opinion, now if you don't mind, would you go back to the Keighley forum where you belong. I really don't think anyone on here cares what you have to say and just repeating the same thing over and over again is starting to bore us now.

It's odd that anyone from that particular club should preach about 'cheating' given the number of creditors they've 'cheated' over the years.


#2984255 Appeal

Posted by TheTerminator on 28 August 2014 - 07:11 PM

I have been extremely critical of Kevin Nicholas on this forum over the last few weeks. Whilst I stand by some of that criticism - mainly in regard to the way in which the club is run, he deserves full marks for persevering with this. Well done, brilliant stuff.


#2981200 RFL Investigating DR breach at Whitehaven

Posted by TheTerminator on 21 August 2014 - 09:00 PM

As far as I'm aware, the '3 game, Salary Cap value' rule in regard to Dual Registration was only introduced for the 2014 season. Looks like more desperate grasping at some even thinner straws to me.