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#2969832 The all-new never-ending League Restructure debate (Many merged threads)

Posted by thundergaz on 02 August 2014 - 12:25 PM

I agree but it does make one ponder....

Not everyone in the Manchester/Salford area are football followers, probably the minority of the overall population. Especially as the likes of Utd attract fans from around the country on match days. Yep, football gets the huge media publicity and whilst lots more will take a interest in whats happening they, as in the majority, are still not attending football games.

Yet the general public certainly have an appetite for sport and attending major sporting events even if they have no previous interest. Yep, I know its the event rather than the actual sport being played that attracts them. It seems to me we don't have events that work on the public imagination.

I don't think playing a regular league game or similar will be such a event to attract "non RL followers. Certainly not in any significant numbers. I count magic in that too as certainly from my perspective I see it as just a regular round all-be-it I can watch other regular type games and hence it captures more those interested already in RL rather that a "non follower." Its good for us but it don't capture the general public

It seems to me that the event we should have for refreshing interest is internationals and/or tournament such as a rugby nines. If we look at the commonwealth games the RU sevens attracted huge crowds and I bet most normally have no interest in either code of Rugby. Yep I know it was the commonwealth games that captured the must attend imagination of the non follower. Yet it showed the appetite for attending sporting occasions/major events. I don't count Challenge Cup or Grand Final as they are normal cycle events and whilst some non followers it is mainly the RL community and fans that attend.

I see it as events that capture the media, even if only local media that builds up the profile of the game. So rather than taking regular games on the road I would look to nines/sevens type tournaments in which their is a knock out to a final over a day or weekend and of course internationals as the starting vehicles for raising profile.

I agree John. As the internationals seem to be the way forward as the World Cup showed with big interest with the crowds. My concern is where have these extra fans gone? Was it just the World Cup scene that brought the interest? Or were these fans actually excited about our sport? I think the first point is more plausible as like I say where have these extra fans gone? Which we attracted with the World Cup.

#2968589 Catalans Rumour

Posted by thundergaz on 31 July 2014 - 01:17 PM

Even when FN was with us

No joy in any of that, Has he definitely exited? Has he asked for his ball back? Has he taken anything with him and left the club short? The irony is all this is that Fev were in with a shout for SL under licencing and I trust that all the good work at the club by everyone has not been for nothing. Lets trust his legacy is one of hope, determination, innovation etc because they are going to need it under the new league structure.

How will they now progress on gates of 2,000?

As far as I'm aware he's definitely left the club John. As for the rest well time will tell I guess but Mark Campbell is no mug and I very much doubt he will of put the club at FNs mercy. But like I say time will tell. As for this new structure we leigh bradford fax and London have no chance of getting into the top league so yes probably we had a better chance under licensing. As for the 2k gates you mention that's the problem we might have along with the rest of the second tier clubs. As after 1 or 2 seasons of trying to get into the top tier with no success I'm sure crowds will dwindle even at the bulls and London too. Got a bad feeling about this new structure myself as I have a feeling only the die hards of each team in the second tier will turn up every week when they realise their isn't a chance of getting into the top tier but like I say time will tell John.

#2968034 Catalans Rumour

Posted by thundergaz on 30 July 2014 - 11:39 AM

London Broncos rotted to death under licensing. They were always okay when they had to make an effort to stay in SL.

I bet my bottom dollar that London would be in a far worse place than they are now if licensing hadn't of been implemented and this new system had of been in place from the start.Licensing helped stop the wigans of our sport dominating and getting even stronger and helped expansion teams and the smaller clubs bridge the gap and make the top league more competitive. I never liked licensing but it certainly helped the likes of wakey Cas cats London and Widnes that's for sure.

#2967524 The all-new never-ending League Restructure debate (Many merged threads)

Posted by thundergaz on 29 July 2014 - 12:38 PM

The issue isn't in SL where everyone will have equal funding. The problem lies in the Championship where some clubs will be getting £500k and some £200k; equal funding across the Championship clubs is a must! There is already a divide in the division and these changes are going to dramatically increase that division as smaller clubs will not be able to compete with the likes of Featherstone, Halifax and Leigh. You are in effect creating big gaps between potential full time and part time sides in the same division and will ultimately destroy what is a great division as it stands now.

Agree 100% with your post. Unless a second tier club can find a ken Davy from somewhere then the second tier will be a 3-5 team league every season under this new structure. I'm going to stick my neck out here and say if this structure lasts 10 seasons not one second tier club will get promotion unless a top tier club goes into a similar situation to the bulls. This system smacks of I give you something in one hand but take it all away with the other hand.

#2967392 The all-new never-ending League Restructure debate (Many merged threads)

Posted by thundergaz on 29 July 2014 - 08:14 AM

I'm all for P&R but I feel this system will have these major affects. (Hope I'm wrong but this is what I see happening with the new system). The top 5/6 SL clubs will dominate even further cutting the other 6/7 clubs further adrift. The remaining 6/7 clubs won't be able to challenge the top 5/6 clubs but will be too good to go down. Then their will be 3-5 Second tier clubs who will be fighting it out for the top 4 spots cutting the rest in the second tier and third tier even further adrift with the salary cap. As I reckon 3 will run a million cap the other 2 around 500-700k the rest in the league around 200-400k or maybe even less. The top 4/5 clubs in the second tier will be too good for the second tier but not good enough to get promoted. Then the cycle will just keep repeating itself. Unless and this is a big no no clubs overspend to compete which will result in massive financial crisis for the clubs in question. Like I say I hope I'm 100% wrong but that's the way I see the new structure panning out. Expansion as definitely gone with this system unless the likes of cru Hemel etc can find a ken Davy from somewhere.

#2868501 Relegation

Posted by thundergaz on 22 January 2014 - 07:35 PM

That will be nothing compared to what will happen if Fev end up in a championship relegation spot.

If that happens I want this system scraped it will of been rubbish lol.

#2868360 Relegation

Posted by thundergaz on 22 January 2014 - 04:29 PM

What are you talking about. Keighley are going to sign Thurston and the Burgess brothers, build their new stadium, dominate the championship and knock Bradford out in the 3 x 8 league and then kick off the next season with Wigan at home and put 50 on them.

I was believing you until you said you would put 50 past Wigan lol.

#2868236 The never-ending League Restructure debate (Many merged threads)

Posted by thundergaz on 22 January 2014 - 01:46 PM

Sorry Parky, but I find reading Mr Sadlers reports does not give transparent coverage of a situation, he is like a traffic cop who wants to take you down his road of thinking, nothing at all wrong with that if you are a disciple of his, fortunately or unfortunately as the case may be I am not.


#2868174 Relegation

Posted by thundergaz on 22 January 2014 - 12:07 PM

It's to complicated, should of kept it simple 2 up 2 down no need for this 3 leagues of 8

Right here goes I will explain the system from your clubs point of view and make it as simple as I can. 5 or 6 clubs will be relegated from the championship at the end of this season depending if Toulouse are included. Then next season the championship will be a 12 team league where the top 4 of our league will go into a mini league with the bottom 4 of SL with all their season points going back to zero. The top four of that mini league get to play in the SL the following season and the bottom four get to play in the championship. The other 8 teams in our league go into a mini league where they keep their seasons points and whoever finishes in the bottom 2 of that mini league will be in championship 1 the season after. Hope that helps you.

#2761109 4 games in 11 days!

Posted by thundergaz on 04 August 2013 - 08:05 PM

After 3 in 8 days it dosnt get any easier..
Hunslet away(sun)
Keighly home (Wed)
Barrow away(sun)
York home (thurs)

What you expecting off that??

I think we can get 10points. bonus point at Barrow and 3 wins.

Up the Town!

I think you should win 3 and let barrow win the other one lol.

#2754450 Sheridan

Posted by thundergaz on 27 July 2013 - 09:45 AM

QED. Another individual who gave 100% for the club falls by the wayside. If I were a dyed in the wool Featherstone supporter, I would be worried that, should the vision that the directors have for the club fail to materialise, they would drop the club and move on to another project to bolster their egos. Featherstone is a club that has history, is steeped in tradition, and doesn't deserve to be treated this way by itinerant businessmen.

Some people like to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Also some people have short memories. Where would our club be without mr Campbell and feisal? We were in a right mess before these came along and our club was on its last legs anyway. As I see it these guys have brought us from the depths of despair and put life back into featherstone rovers and I for one am very grateful. Until these guys show that their not here for the club(which I may add nothing of the sort as been shown yet) then I for one appreciate everything they have done for our club and long may it continue.

#2752563 weired

Posted by thundergaz on 24 July 2013 - 02:50 PM

Two new directors with business accumen. All this talk is to make us feel that we are going in the right direction. A prelude to you know what. Not mentioned? I reckon it will be.

What you mean col? As I see it they have been brought in to make us a successful business. Great move I reckon as it should make us self sufficient in time hopefully.

#2733882 Player In/out

Posted by thundergaz on 28 June 2013 - 08:18 AM

With faisal spitting his dummy out our major SL signings clearly appear out of the window

A clear lack of ambition signing the above mentioned Batley players - if Bastian is wanting these to sign for Fev and get rid of what we have then hes probably off to a negative start with most supporters!

JB hasn't even got in the Fev hot seat yet and your not happy with him. He hasn't had a top job at wire for so long for spotting rubbish talent. As much as I rate kainy if JB doesn't and wants to offload him so be it. ( Its all just rumours at the moment anyway). All I'm saying is whatever JB does no need to judge him until the end of next season as you never know he might actually win all the 3 for all we know at least give him a chance to get in and settle in the job before you slate him.