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Posted by dude02 on 24 January 2015 - 10:11 PM

Think you are overdoing the 'no Irish representation' angle D. Just because the majority of the players weren't born in Ireland doesn't mean they weren't into it 100%.

My parents were Irish (well one still is lol) and had I been any good at RL I would have been proud to play for an Ireland RL team, regardless of you telling me I aren't Irish (a bit like Pat Richards I imagine)

Just because they were into it it doesn't mean there was Irish representation. The Irish media haven't bought into it. The Irish fans haven't bought into it? What's the point of sticking with such a bad idea?


Instead of turning the RLWC into a farce, the RFL and the RLIF should have worked together on temporarily professionalizing the Irish/Scottish/Italian players by having each SL club have 1-2 of them in their roster which should have considerably lifted their level and potentially led to some of them getting "real" pro contracts with some clubs, and using some heritage players to plug some gaps here and there instead of doing ***k all to develop Ireland's RL and then dressing some Aussies in green for the WC.

#3059179 This piece doesn't reflect well on the RLIF and its new boss

Posted by dude02 on 22 January 2015 - 04:14 PM

The RLIF should be a subsidiary of the NRL. The NRL is the only league organization that has proven they know what they are doing.

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Posted by dude02 on 20 January 2015 - 10:10 PM

So if World Cups can only have closely competitive knockout games and teams that only include proper players born, raised, swearing allegiance and speaking the language of the country they represent, then how many World Cups wouldn't take place?


Rugby League World Cup

Union World Cup

Cricket World Cup for a start - any others?

Nobody has claimed only "teams that only include proper players born, raised, swearing allegiance and speaking the language of the country they represent" should be allowed, but what they did at the last RLWC was just ridiculous. Having entire teams made out of heritage players or teams that have 1-2 non heritage players players at best is simply ridiculous as was demonstrated by the low interest from TV broadcasters and sponsors for this competition.

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Posted by dude02 on 20 January 2015 - 07:23 PM

The last RLWC had a team of Australians sponsored by some pub in Sydney masquerading as Italy.

The last RLWC had a team of Australians with a couple of Americans masquerading as USA.

The weaker teams were hidden away in their own groups.

It failed to sellout the semi final double header despite the dirt cheap tickets.

It had a bunch of matches in small stadiums with crowds numbering a few thousands.

The BBC only broadcasted it because it was forced by law. None of of the major sports channels in the UK were interesting in broadcasting it and they had to settle on showing it on a tiny channel.


You or I enjoying it doesn't make the last RLWC non farcical. If sponsors had thought it was such a great competition they would have fallen over themselves to get involved.

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Posted by dude02 on 20 January 2015 - 03:57 PM

I see they carefully ignore the large parts of Yorkshire where they might find RL including the historic tourist trap that is York.


This whole link up with RU is an example of how RU are embedded in the top echelons of business and are able to have pieces like this written by these sychophantic journalists.


The RLWC had games in the area of the Lake District and Cumbria, London and it's history, Bristol, with it's history and proximity to the south west and indeed Bath, and Huddersfield adjacent to the picturesque summer wine country and the Pennines, Kirklees, Robin Hood and all that, but we saw not so much as a sentence in this publication regarding out competition and any links to tourist Britain.

Perhaps more companies would be willing to associate with our world cup it it weren't such a farcical competition.

#3051497 Still got rugby in it.

Posted by dude02 on 03 January 2015 - 05:28 PM

Saying something that irritates you is not necessarily dragging the  conversation to the lowest level Baldrick.  I could ask why do you continue to pretend to be a RL fan when, quite patently, you are not?


True, saying something that irritates me isn't necessarily dragging the conversation to the lowest level, but deliberately making flawed arguments, lying and posting half truths does exactly that.

Also, I am bald but my name isn't Rick.



Why else would a sport as rich as union, with a plethora of union coaches at its disposal, seek to bring in coaches from a different sport, with no previous knowledge of union, other than to improve itself?  The union authorities must believe that these coaches will bring something new to the table, possibly a deeper insight into the subtleties and nuances? ;)


I agree, there are nations and clubs that don't have ex-League coaches.  However, the League influence is there for all to see and I am certain that union coaches will look at what is being done by those ex-Leaguie's and adapt their approach to suit.  They will also tap into the knowledge of ex-League players..  I am sure, for example, that young Mr Burgess at Bath is being de-briefed (pardon the pun - I know this happens a lot in union hi-jinks) on exactly what it takes to be a top class rugby player.


I am not sure why you are getting so upset about this concept.  As a RL fan you should be extremely proud that our coaches are held in such high esteem and are in such demand by others.

Again, union clubs/nations employing a handful of league coaches doesn't mean only league coaches can provide a deeper insight into the subtleties and nuances of the game, but lying is your favorite thing here, so I'm sure that's not going to stop you from repeating what is obviously bull5#!7

#3045941 How much do you pay to play?

Posted by dude02 on 16 December 2014 - 02:07 PM

Bankruptcy means protection from the creditors and a second chance at life, not a death sentence.

#3045861 BBC Sport - Burgess love in

Posted by dude02 on 16 December 2014 - 11:02 AM

Recently they had the rights to and televised the NZ v England Rugby Four Nations semi final.  On the same day at Twickers, England were playing NZ at union in a friendly for which Sky had the broadcasting rights and televised.  Guess which game the BRUBC promoted at the expense of the other?


How was it at the expense of the other? They could have easily promoted both if they had chosen to.

#3044901 They "borrowed" the name Rugby World Cup, guess what name is now in t...

Posted by dude02 on 14 December 2014 - 12:14 PM

Using the prevailing legal system to do what is otherwise morally indefensible is a well worn tactic of rugby union though isn't it?

What's morally indefensible about protecting your brand?

#3044317 Structure, is that the problem?

Posted by dude02 on 12 December 2014 - 11:01 PM

It's an arms race. Defenders may be having the upper hand now, but that will only lead to better attackers being formed. This thing will sort itself out.

#3042848 Threat of insolvency for ARU

Posted by dude02 on 09 December 2014 - 12:59 PM

 'and then they'd sit back and watch the French Top14 and Japanese clubs go to town on the NRL.'


Can you spell out why you think that would necessarily follow

Recent history has shown some league stars are willing to take pay cuts in order to have a shot at playing international RU.

Create a situation where the players have the chance to live abroad, earn twice the money (maybe not quite twice the money, but still, big big wads of cash.) playing easy rugby, possibly having a longer career AND have a shot at playing for the Wallabies and a lot more of the NRL stars would be enticed to give it a go.

NRL's salary cap in 2017 will be 7m AUD. At today's exchange rate that's 4.7m euro. To put that into perspective... the French clubs have a salary cap of 10m euro. The Japanese clubs have no salary cap and they're all owned by mega corporations and they'll soon have a team in Super Rugby, and Japan will host a RUWC in 5 years, so the interest in the sport and the money invested in it is only going to grow. Heck, even England's Aviva Premiership's salary cap is significantly larger now than the NRL's cap will be in 2017.

#3042813 Threat of insolvency for ARU

Posted by dude02 on 09 December 2014 - 11:55 AM

Realistically, what's the worst that could happen for ARU? They could simply adopt South Africa's selection policy, which allows picking players based overseas, thus they'd significantly reduce their wage bill and then they'd sit back and watch the French Top14 and Japanese clubs go to town on the NRL.

#3042151 Union World Cup Preview in Telegraph

Posted by dude02 on 07 December 2014 - 05:09 PM

It does indeed sound like fantasy.

#3040089 Union World Cup Preview in Telegraph

Posted by dude02 on 02 December 2014 - 10:41 AM

"During the 15 games of the Six Nations competition (2012/13) there were 214 scrums. There were 80 collapses, 66 re-sets, 34 early engagements and 74 penalties. This means that only 103 (48 percent) of the scrums set were completed. A study done by an Australian rugby statistician has shown the large amount of time lost during a rugby game - more than half the game, in most cases - with shots for goal and scrums being the main culprits.The average time the ball was in play during the 2012 Super 15 was 35min 30sec, and at the 2011 World Cup it was 35min 25sec. In the Super 15, one game had the ball in action for just 28min 20sec. The longest time was just under 45min." Tell me where the excitement is in watching Union as weell over 50% of the time there is nothing happening and over 50% of the time there is collapse of a scrum or Penalty at a scrum. No wonder ist boring to Play and watch!

It's not exciting at all to watch, that's why it's about to die off.

#3039778 Union World Cup Preview in Telegraph

Posted by dude02 on 01 December 2014 - 02:31 PM


and live music after the match at the Drop Kick Scrum and Ruck & Maul bars and in the West Fan Village.” Notice that none of these booze dispensing outlets is called the ‘Sweet Spinning Pass Bar’ or the ‘Sidestep and Jink Hostelry.’

12-6 win over South Africa in a game which one reporter suggested merited a 70p ticket price rather than the £70 it actually cost.


Yes, there's a couple of good quotes to take away from this article.



Was Middleton Bull the reporter?