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#3016492 They just don't get it.......

Posted by dude02 on 19 October 2014 - 06:41 PM

The question of dude being wrong is that he's here. I don't believe people go to another sport's website out of the goodness of their hearts or for the love of sports.

What he did Roughy is what they all do - give the game away one way or another. If he was truly interested in league he wouldn't be in such a hurry to find kick and clap superior and would have discussed the thread on topic. 

SB and SBW may be freaks but the idea that they would have been like that in any sport is a good point but there are holes in the basic argument; like, if there are so many players, where are the freaks? And if they are there, why sign Burgess? Of course my original point was lost on dude that RL fondness for ru players in the past was based largely on bums on seats. Basic issues like this are difficult to see from under a bridge!

I've answered your questions. The freaks are there in all sports, including RU. And they keep signing league players because they can and because nobody has ever said they've had too much of a good thing. Nobody has ever said their sport has too many good players so they'll stop bringing more, as demonstrated by the fact that even gridiron is willing to take in players from other sports. Again, union players aren't living gods, and nobody is claiming every single one of them is superior or equal to SBW or Sam therefore there's room for these league players at union clubs.


I've also not claimed anywhere union is superior, but don't let that stop you from lying about it.

#3016238 Canadian team apply to join Championship 1 (merged threads)

Posted by dude02 on 19 October 2014 - 09:11 AM

Oh well, I've only been telling that story about the earth rotation's effect on flying times for about a decade now :(

#3016106 Jarryd Hayne quits Parramatta to join NFL

Posted by dude02 on 18 October 2014 - 09:10 PM

5) My point is that the way the 'franchise' system you badly want hinders the international  game. Name one franchise sport which has a thriving international game - there isn't one. What the franchise system does is have countries seclude themselves from the rest of the world. It's like when you portray this mentality of a Yorkshire/Lancashire person wanting whats best for their club except it is much worse and on a larger scale.



Basketball, Ice Hockey, RU as well, for a large part of the unions.

#3005635 Sam Burgess (merged threads)

Posted by dude02 on 01 October 2014 - 12:07 PM

some people are just pathetic and that is never going to change

#3002341 Scoring records broken in Aviva Premiership Rugby

Posted by dude02 on 25 September 2014 - 02:00 PM

Not like you, as a self-proclaimed RL fan, to come out in support of union, yet again! ;)

A small group of league fans spewing lies and rubbish is enough to make all of us look bad. League already doesn't have a very good reputation anywhere, let's not do our best to make it worse, OK?

#2998792 Wasps moving to Coventry?

Posted by dude02 on 19 September 2014 - 11:41 AM

So what would they be called then?
London Coventry Wasps?

Have you ever seen a wasp in Coventry? (Ok its an old line)

They've already dumped "London" from their name

#2997141 What can we do to increase attendances?

Posted by dude02 on 17 September 2014 - 11:08 AM

Aye, we don't want spin, we want to be told the truth! Where is the press release telling the whole world that crowds and viewing figures are down.


Of course you'd never get other sports using stats to tell the story they want ie. RU chief telling the world aboiut the increased vieiwing figs last season which were wholly down to more games being broadcast.


In terms of the 5% central marketing budget, whilst I agree in principle, the £200m deal would only give £10m if the 5% was taken from that level. A couple of million pound per year will not be revolutionary. 


Agree about the community work, but I think that is an area where we are pretty strong, or seemingly so. We need to get the balance right between working quietly in schools and the community and spending money on the right marketing channels.

The problem with your argument is that you're making a comparison with a complete fabrication that was made up by some poster in the cross code section.

#2995396 RUWC 2015

Posted by dude02 on 14 September 2014 - 06:35 PM

what exactly is wrong with punters putting money into their sport?

#2993760 "And RU just keeps getting more and more popular"

Posted by dude02 on 12 September 2014 - 09:00 AM

It's possible to get crowds of over 5000 at a bass fishing tournament.

So, you're saying bass fishing is more popular than RL?

#2991527 "And RU just keeps getting more and more popular"

Posted by dude02 on 09 September 2014 - 12:46 PM

LOL, I think you are the one who needs to back up your claims.


The claim that the IRB has 102 member unions needs backing, but the claim that "most of these countries will be a few ex pats having a run around" is fine?

#2990208 Incoming Bath signing Sam Burgess will play at centre

Posted by dude02 on 07 September 2014 - 06:39 PM

Rugby League never changing - you're having a huge hypocritical blindfold moment aren't you

Union only changed when it was forced kicking and screaming by the taxman, Sport England, Parliament, House of Lords, Armed Forces and most democratic people in the country. Otherwise it wouldn't have changed and remained in some pseudo-Victorian time-warp.


It had more to do with NZ and Australia wanting to go pro and the risk of the game splitting again.

#2990205 "And RU just keeps getting more and more popular"

Posted by dude02 on 07 September 2014 - 06:37 PM

Sorry my mistake. I must have misheard the phrase 'global game' bandied about.

And their crowds, whilst not bad, (certainly compared to equivalent RL fixtures) are pretty small for USA sport.

Nobody said they weren't pretty small for USA sport. What has been said is that they are growing.

TBF I don't think the average American can tell the difference between RL and RU so an increased interest in the US for rugby will probably be good for both codes.

#2989960 "And RU just keeps getting more and more popular"

Posted by dude02 on 07 September 2014 - 03:13 PM

The quotation was made by one of our friends who prefers the 15 a side game. I thought I would just check how the quest for global domination is developing. To be totally fair to our poster, I have selected the most important game in 2014 for each country- the one where the winner qualifies directly for the RU World Cup or advances to the final play off spot. That means I have had to ignore the attendances in Madrid, Constanta, and Sochi http://en.wikipedia....e_qualification, so to avoid low blows please do not refer to that article in the debate.


Russia V Zimbabwe attendance 6500   Krasnoyarsk population 1,035,028

USA     V Canada     attendance 5,258  Charleston population 127,999 (is there some sort of stamp duty threshold, where Charleston pays more taxes for a population of 128,000?)

USA     V Uruguay    attendance 6,500 :clapping: Which major metropolis was this crucial game played in? New York, Los Angeles, Boston? Any more guesses, it was of course....................................................................................................................................Kennesaw! the town where every citizen must by law own a gun and which has population 29,783.


Purely for comparison purposes Castleford, population 39,192 had an average attendance for their dreadful 2013 Superleague season of 6292. This leaves me with two conclusions, either the Tigers are punching substantially above their weight, or perhaps the rest of the world are not so enamoured of the other code as some people think. Myself I judge it to be the former, well done the people of Castleford.

On the other hand USA sold 20k for their test vs Scotland, Canada sold 18k for their test vs Scotland, USA had already sold 30k tickets for their home game vs NZ more than two months ago and they might sell it out, Georgia got 54k for their home game vs Russia and the first day of Africa Cup was sold out in Antananarivo (40k spectators)

#2988390 This site (merged threads)

Posted by dude02 on 04 September 2014 - 02:56 PM

Seriously, most of the news pieces posted there as separate topics have no answers from any posters. It's clear the community is not very interested in them (as forum topics), and it's not like anyone on the forum isn't aware of the main site's existence. It's just pushing the proper topics out of the casual posters' eyes and into the following pages.

...please and thanks. :D



#2985943 Opinion: Rugby League exposes its own Achilles heel again

Posted by dude02 on 31 August 2014 - 03:08 PM





Perhaps you are a bit soft? :tongue:



Is that pathetic response the only comment you can muster after you have dismissed the whole wonderful and incredible history of RL in this country as , "not a proper competition".  That comment also unequivocally and disgustingly insults all the fans, players and officials who have ever watched, played  or been involved with this great game.  All this from someone who claims to be a RL fan - yeah, right!.  At the very least, I would have expected an explanation as to what you meant with your insult and, I know this is expecting too much, an apology perhaps?  If RL is not "proper", why are you even bothering to post here?


Riiiiight, I said RL is not proper now?


I stand by my statement that SL is not a proper competition. Perhaps you are not aware of the meaning of the word? There you go: http://www.oxforddic.../english/proper

"Of the required or correct type or form".

A contracting, unstable competition that is often played in terrible stadiums and whose clubs often go bust might be of the required type for you, but it isn't for many others.