gingerjon
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31 minutes ago, unapologetic pedant said:
Creative accounting around participation rates in NSW/QLD is central to AFL "National Football Code" propaganda.
The AFL have not provided any of the figures.
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1 hour ago, The Rocket said:
There was talk of the collapse of the women`s domestic competition, the W-League, due to a lack of funds, not so long ago. The men`s competition took a hammering in their broadcast deal, the women`s is basically worthless. The women are basically playing for the love of it, and even that may not be enough.
Yes. In Australia.
NWSL, WSL and a growing number of leagues in Europe are where the global pathway comes in. The last time we had this chat, Sam Kerr was earning as much just from her club salary as each NRLW team could pay their entire squad.
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Just now, The Rocket said:
[1] Until they start losing and once the other soccer nations, namely South American amongst others get over their gender bias and accept womens` sport, the Matildas position in the pecking order of world`s women soccer will go south pretty quickly, as will Australia`s love affair with them. The signs are already there.
Basketball has a lot of false dawns in this country it would take a large decline in the popularity of the main codes for them to break through the ceiling in popularity levels that it has already reached but been able to breach several times.
[1] I doubt they will maintain the same level of popularity but there is no reason to expect a massive collapse. Women's football is likely to remain a decent and profitable way for female athletes from Australia to earn decent money around the world for a long time to come as well.
[2] No idea what their expectations are but, following a quick check, the basketball league looks decent, features a lot of Australians, and is one of the top paying ones in the world. I doubt it will ever be more popular than traditional sports in Oz but see no reason to doubt the high level of participation - and just noting that translates to a pretty well attended league.
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2 hours ago, Roughyed Rats said:
Crowd figures and stadium utilisation gives more IMG points than profit. Why wouldn’t rich owners subsidise dirt cheap tickets? They are literally being incentivised to do so.
Because reality intrudes when you run out of money and IMG points don't pay the bills?
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1 hour ago, HawkMan said:
Why is Soccer dominant in a country with no real Soccer history , certainly internationally or locally in terms of a top pro league, ( A league is awful), and why is basketball number 1 in Victoria? You'd think the number 1 participation sport would translate to a top pro league. Does every Aussie Soccer fan just follow A European team or the EPL? This seems bizarre to me.
Edit ; Does the Soccer figures include other formats as the League figures do? Futsal, five- a- side?
The Matildas are the best supported and most followed national team in Australia.
Australia has a professional basketball league with a minimum player salary of $79,500 (£40,700) and a team salary cap of just shy of $2m.
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2 hours ago, The Future is League said:
I know one of the measures they used once to count fumblers in NSW schools was even if you had a 1 hour fumbleball lesson a week and didn't play for your school or a club you was still classed as a fumbler.
Thankfully, for this one, governing bodies are nowhere near the numbers.
You can, as ever, read all about it: https://www.clearinghouseforsport.gov.au/research/ausplay/method
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13 minutes ago, Derwent said:
I suspect this graph would look different in each state. My nephew and nieces have grown up in the suburbs of Melbourne and none of them have any interest in RL whatsoever, the lad is into Aussie Rules, Cricket and has a passing interest in Soccer and the girls are into Tennis and Swimming. Certainly in their part of Victoria the AFL is by far the dominant sport.
All are on the footyindustryAU twitter account but:
Victoria
NSW
Queensland
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I may be being completely thick but I can't see a partners page or dedicated space on the RFL site.
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46 minutes ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:
Exactly, which is essentially why I don't approve of them pricing things so high, surely it's better to move things on at a lower price and make some money for the charity than have them sat in the shop for months in the hope of making a bit more money.
As I said, if that Club Tijuana shirt had been, say, £5 I would have bought it a month back but because it is priced up at £15, it is still sat there and the charity are missing out.
If everything is sold too cheap then it becomes harder to cover the shop's operating costs.
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12 minutes ago, Dave T said:
I always find this odd. I never played basketball outside of school, and have never heard of anyone i know playing basketball at adult or youth level.
I have heard of and/or know people who play most other sports, but basketball always does well in these studies.
It's massive in schools so that gives it a boost but, for example, despite it being essentially invisible in the area there are three basketball teams within ten miles of my front door. That puts it behind only football and cricket. Go to places without cricket - like a lot of urban areas now are - and you can easily see how it gets to the 'second team sport behind football'.
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15 minutes ago, The Future is League said:
I'm surprised how many people play basketball in Australia and 2nd only to soccer
Same as England: https://www.basketballengland.co.uk/news/2024/basketball-participation-in-england-at-highest-levels-since-active-lives-records-began/
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https://x.com/footyindustryAU/status/1862082794866004351
The account also has a chart for Queensland specifically.
Just an FYI.
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45 minutes ago, Dave T said:
2 - Papa Johns is another perfect example of the above. A perfectly reasonable deal that provided some food for some visibility in the grounds. The kind of deal that can be built upon if a success and you woo them as a full on partner. The fans, media, and then even the players mocked this one to death. Papa Johns were last seen sponsoring football and Rugby Union.
This is the one that gets me most. A decent deal for what it was, with a cash value that ran to thousands if you worked it out. And everyone lined up to take the mick.
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12 hours ago, gazza77 said:
A wider question to me is what is the purpose of charity shops? Is it to maximise revenue to generate as much as possible for the charity, or should it be a low priced offering, enabling those who are struggling financially to be able to pick up second hand essentials at an affordable price?
Worked for a local charity in London that ran two shops. Without the profit from those shops then some of the things that charity did would not have happened. But that balancing act was an issue - for some people using the charity, the shop was an extension of it, for other shoppers it was just a cheap shop. It was a circle that was never squared, really.
Hastings & St Leonards has a lot of bric a brac and jumble shops posing as boho antiques places so our charity shops lean very much to old clothes and assorted bargains - there are two which specifically sell furniture and they are "well under market rate but not cheap".
To go back to the thread purpose: if they don't make enough of a profit then they will be closed. That's not always on sales. If the landlord hikes rent or if staff are needed rather than volunteers, that can make a difference. And profit will be going back to the charity but there will be bills to pay on the way.
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2 minutes ago, gazza77 said:
Can't comment for 25, but in previous seasons they've not been allowed to due to the sky deal.
Sky's deal doesn't cover the Championship or League 1 - hence why there was an offer from Premier last season that the clubs didn't take up.
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8 hours ago, Eddie said:
What was your previous TRL pseudonym?
Edited - not worth it, but some of the returners really don’t do subtle.
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11 hours ago, Styx said:
Was Director of Rugby for the University. My involvement at All Golds started in the first League 1 season, he only had minimal involvement if any by then, and none by the second season. He returned in a small role the penultimate season, but nothing major. As I said before none of the main players from All Golds are involved with Cornwall.
He was on something called their Advisory Board. No idea what that was or the level of input!
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10 minutes ago, Mumby Magic said:
A new owner announced just now.
https://cornwallrlfc.co.uk/news/club-statement-a-new-chapter-for-cornwall-rlfc/
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2 hours ago, Billy King's Boots said:
Football types: so entitled/blinkered.
Goole Town Council, together with the Goole Town Deal Board, is delighted to announce that its application for grant funding from the Football Foundation has been successful, securing more than £2.2 million towards ambitious plans to refurbish the town’s Victoria Pleasure Ground.
Via the Football Foundation, the Premier League, The Football Association and the Government will provide 31 per cent of the total £7,266,385 million cost of the project.
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4 minutes ago, RayCee said:
Really? Nine away games in a row? Is there a reason for that?
If it follows other soccer ground shares, it'll be because they use June to re-seed the pitch.
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16 minutes ago, JT RL said:
Between 1960 and 1990 over 49,000 jobs were lost and over 65,000 people left Salford
1990 was 34 years ago. Which makes it as close to today as 1956 was to 1990.
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19 minutes ago, Futtocks said:
https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/11/cmbc-cuts-cask-offering/
Carlsberg, having bought Marston’s (with the blessing of the Competition & Markets Authority), have now announced they will be discontinuing the following beers:
- Banks’ Mild
- Banks’ Sunbeam
- Bombardier (keg)
- Eagle IPA
- Jennings Cumberland Ale
- Mansfield Dark Smooth (keg)
- Mansfield Original Bitter (keg)
- Marston’s Old Empire
- Marston’s 61 Deep
- Ringwood Boondoggle
- Ringwood Old Thumper
Depressing.
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11 hours ago, JohnM said:
All able bodies Swiss had to undergo army training but get weekends off but had to keep their weapons at home. It wasn't unusual to see this in action.
. On leaving the army, you could buy your gun. That was 50 years ago so may well have changed.
I believe it is still the case. It gets wheeled out a lot by second amendment US types but there seem to be key differences like punitive and efficient punishments for not storing said gun securely, ammo separate, not being absolutely mental, that kind of thing.
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21 minutes ago, EggFace said:
looking to produce my own bees for the club.
It's been a while since we've had such an awesome typo.
Bees on the field, giant crows in the stands.
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Participation in Australia
in The General Rugby League Forum
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If you’re saying these figures are wrong because the AFL add up using the union calculator then the fact that they are independent of the AFL and its numbers is quite important.