Lowdesert
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27 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:
Before this game I was thinking back to pre season and the respective coaches at some clubs which were expected to do well this season, in this contest we have two Smith and Smith, two others were Powell and Watson, I do not think that I am being unfair to say that their respective teams have totally underperformed under their leadership with the resources that was made available to them, obviously one has gone by being relieved of his position I just wonder how much borrowed time the other three have remaining.
No chance Tony smith leaving. Several reasons but think the only thing he could be questioned on would be the pre season fitness. He took a chance,imo, on taking an easier approach for players who had had long term injuries/recurring niggles and it backfired.
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10 minutes ago, Alffi 7 said:
At this stage of his career Walker will want to be the first choice 9, not sharing it with Clark. Clark similarly wanted to be the first choice 9 with no time spent at 13. We can’t accommodate both so have opted for the longer term option. Inevitably it will leave us weaker in that position, but will also free up some cap space to fix up other areas.
Time will tell whether Ratchford gets that back up 9 spot and whether he will be any good at it.
I think wire have done good business with the Clarke transfer. Been a great player but the right time to go.
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2 hours ago, JonM said:
It's not a complete RL vacuum in Lyon, as you can see from the local league's newsletter: http://liguera13.com/xiii-info-n123-juin-2023-ͼͽ/
That is some read Jon!
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3 hours ago, langpark said:
I believe Roanne is another. Not far from Lyon, both are real "RL frontier" clubs. Been around since the beginning, and sadly dissolved during thr pandemic.
Hopefully they too can soon re-form and Lyon will have another team nearby. They are a bit isolated as it stands now.
There are plenty, just need to get a bit of funding to kick start them. Insurance to play at all levels in France is a costly problem but no shortage of facilities.
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6 hours ago, Eddie said:
I’ve even google translated it for you, good luck to them;
It’s a rebirth in this great city of France! For a few weeks now, the project to relaunch a historic rugby league club has been underway in Lyon. A team of enthusiasts took on the challenge of reforming a flagship team at FC Lyon XIII. The president of the club Ronel ZENON, alongside Cyprien COLOT, have already started the project and are looking for players wishing to join the adventure.
Former Saint-Martin-de-Crau player, Cyprien arrived in Lyon for professional reasons but also with the firm intention of (re)launching a rugby league team in one of the largest cities in France. The short-term ambition objective would be to recruit as many players as possible and build a team at the lowest level.
Cyprien COLOT, marketing/communication manager of the club: “Passionate about XIII, I wanted to take on a crazy but feasible bet: relaunching a historic club, and therefore FC Lyon XIII. We are trying to get this club going again because we see great potential. Partners would be ready to also join the adventure, but for this we must first restructure the club at all levels. This obviously involves creating a flagship team with a sufficient number of players to meet the demands of a season. Lyon is a big city passionate about sport and the 13th had its heyday. I am convinced that we can bring the club back from the ashes and regain the notoriety of the sport in this city.”
It’s pretty good running on the peage to the French rl heartlands but still quite a distance (I estimate 5 hours to Barnyias territory in Lezignan and a days drive to St.Gaudens.)
let’s hope they start steady and encourage youngsters development as a priority and Mairie funding not far behind. If they do that and are willing to put that effort in for 8-10 years, then they have a good chance to create something sustainable. Or, try the VSL route/promises and fizzle out. Hope it’s the former!
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25 minutes ago, Saint Toppy said:
or is it that he refused to respect his boss and his bosses decisions and when his boss refused to do what he wanted him to do he had a paddy and went public. Lets see how he reacts when people start questioning his decisions. His actions show he's not a man to listen & respect other people's opinions exactly like Powell. Any player who questioned his decisions found themselves being pushed out of the club
Bit like your good self then.
Ok, we’ll watch out for that. Thanks.
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49 minutes ago, gingerjon said:
Stick everything that isn't covered by a broadcast deal on YouTube and stop fiddling about with OurLeague as a live match streaming platform.
OurLeague is just not good enough. Who ever ‘manages or develops it’ has had enough time now or isn’t being given enough time/ funding to achieve a better standard.
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31 minutes ago, Saint Toppy said:
And people complained about Wellens !!!
Watson is a coach who's failing miserably and knows his time is nearly up. Spouting utter rubbish to deflect from his own inadequacies.
According to him Greenwood just 'pushed out' and English should just have 'kept his feet a bit longer' and was 'just trying to bring a big man down'
This interview is nothing short of ebarrassing
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2 hours ago, Dunbar said:
Why's that? It has pretty much solved the problem over there that we are discussing here.
not sure how these are collated but it gives an idea.
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7 minutes ago, ATLANTISMAN said:
CC is sadly well passed its sell by date there should be ONE FINAL and ONE WINNER just rotate the SLGF
* London
* Edinburgh
* Cardiff
* Dublin
* Barcelona
Put the tickets on sale way before have a 2 week gap between semis and final and hold back 10000 for each finalist.
Tell that to all the players. I know what the answer would be!
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Doing it in the right place at the right time they should absolutely be allowed.
Ranting on TV or in social media absolutely not.
Big fines for them both donated to RL Cares.
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1 hour ago, Dave T said:
I genuinely have no idea how this will go. I have concerns that his coaching CV isn't good enough, but hey ill go along for the ride.
What it does blow apart though is this whole toxic culture narrative. This appointment wouldn't be the one to sort that if there was one.
I've made my feelings clear, it is a lazy excuse imo for when we lose a game, and was never mentioned when we were beating Saints at Wembley for example, or battling at the top of the table.
We had two good managers in Smith and Price for 12 or so years and I find it disrespectful to claim that they had overseen a toxic culture. The only evidence anyone ever presented was that we lost the odd game we were favourites for. Well, that's sport!
Under Powell that seemed to be the narrative, that it was all about overhauling the culture and as an outsider it felt like management from the 1950s and it's broken the team to a level that hasn't been seen during the last couple of decades.
Would I have chosen Burgess at this stage of his career, no. But I'm excited to see how it goes, but then, I always am!
Its more about managing ego’s. I think SB will inspire these players to up their game now.
TBH a good pro like Vaughan must wonder wtf he has got himself into.
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1 hour ago, barnyia said:
Lasa tabu is at Whitehaven,
Yes the lad at hull is strong runner.
Think he’s out injured. He played v Hull it but not v Cas. Videos are out there somewhere
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4 minutes ago, barnyia said:
There's springer, cozza and Lacans at featherstone, jouffret and larroyer at Halifax.
The odd loan signing from the Catalans but that's all the players I can think of.
Quite a few French players are keen to play in the UK but visas are a massive problem now.
I think a few non French have come from elite teams into the British league over the years and seem to remember a Fijian? coming across this year as well.
there is a French lad from Albi with Hull fc reserves
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19 hours ago, Havenlad80 said:
I want Catalans in super league with a greater emphasis placed on the development of French born players in their starting 17 and overall squad with a limited overseas quota but if their team is going to be stacked full of non French born players then it’s a big no from me.
also there’s no need to throw your toys out of your pram by being a snowflake as I was just trying to be civil using the word mate.
It would be interesting to see how many French are playing for uk clubs, to balance whether French pro clubs are developing players. After that, you have elite and also Pole espoirs developing them.
Secondly, what is the level of homegrown players, per club, in our 3 pro leagues? Or, how many first teams don’t have local lads or lasses playing in them?
I see Haven had 3 French playing for them last year. Le Cam, Rouge and Jouffret in 2021.
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6 minutes ago, Saint Toppy said:
That shows people like Fitzpatrick in an even worse light given how they've also said he's the one who is in change of scouting out the available players. To me it shows that he doesn't do the due diligence checks on those players or have that conversation with the coach as to how they would fit in with the clubs culture, the playing group or how they fit with the way the coach wants the team to play.
Every club signs 'dud' players from time to time who for whatever reason just dont work out but Wire seem to sign more than their fair share and they have a pretty big player turnover year after year. That suggests there's something seriously wrong at the club somewhere. Powell said there was a cultural problem, maybe that problem extends beyond just the playing group and the real change needs to happen further up the food chain ?
Certainly won’t encourage those newcomers!
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3 hours ago, ELBOWSEYE said:
Quite scathing, the section on how people were treated doesn't show Powell in a good light.
It doesn’t show the players he brought in, in a good light either.
“I think last year getting rid of so many players, I don’t think we brought the right ones in.“ -
21 minutes ago, dkw said:
Wining bonuses eh..
Justin telling the wife - "alright love, got a job with Warrington"
"oh cool, whats the wage?"
"about £200k plus win bonuses"
"So £200k then"....
Reported that he’s turned Wire down and now a toss up whether it’s Canterbury or Roosters.
Maybe Wire couldn’t guarantee players would conform to his neck rubbing requirements?
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1 minute ago, Harry Stottle said:
I did say that in the post I referred to LD "make sure your head is behind or adjacent to the legs"
Not in the post I looked at about 5 quotes ago. I haven’t looked at those previous so I can’t really apologise for that.
There are finer details to it but nowhere in the rfl coaching manual did it say ‘head directly onto the limb’ or similar bullet style tackle terminology.
Larder or any other RFL coach taught that.
Phil did teach how to fiddle the rules at small sided games though!
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16 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:
@bobbruceAnd I was on one-to-one with Frank Wilson an assistant of Mr Larder on the course.
You are correct other than the head goes to the side, never head on. That applies to side, rear, front passive and blockbuster tackles.
No doubt you got marked down
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30 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:
Yes they are tackles that would be taught, but with one proviso 'get your head in the correct position, behind or adjacent to the leg coming forward'
They aren’t.
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16 minutes ago, phiggins said:
Fair enough. I think there's been two or three on here with a massive overreaction based on seemingly seeing a different incident to most people, including the MRP and match officials. Plus the reaction on the cesspit that is Twitter (or whatever Elon is calling it now), with one Fan site account retweeting all sorts of nonsense, including a suggestion that Saints sue! It's all quite bizarre, and I'm not sure the language used by Wellens helped. And Wilkin did his usual attempt to make a big statement for attention.
For me, the only question on those tackles was whether there was an attempt to wrap his arms in the tackle. Personally, I thought he did.
And I personally will need good luck in the final. Might need to get myself some blood pressure medication!
If I was one of those seen to be overacting then say but I called it how I saw it. Also said that if I had been alongside him on the pitch I’d have patted Asiata on the back.
Both tackles didn’t seem right to me but if that’s the way the judiciary saw it then fair enough but it’s not a form of tackling you would teach or coach as already said, no law to breach.
That aside, for effort and never giving in Leigh 100% deserved to be going to Wembley.
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53 minutes ago, Dave T said:
Tackle below the knee
1. (c) When a player in possession is held in an upright position by two defenders, any other defender(s) must make initial contact to the player in possession above the knees/knee joint regardless of the point of impact. A player can still be penalised for any ‘forceful, dangerous or unnecessary contact’ at the legs that involves an unacceptable risk of injury to the player
in possession.-----------
The above is from the international laws. Where it is misleading is that even if yiu were held up by only one person and attack the knees I expect a penalty would come.
And I'm not sure whether the 2nd sentence is linked to the first or independent of it.
Do the Panel refer to International laws for CC and SL games?
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18 minutes ago, StandOffHalf said:
Interesting to hear your thoughts. They largely align with how I saw things.
Difficult to not pat him on the back for both tackles mate but 2 instances of a similar action with (and we don’t know yet) season ending injuries?
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Dom young
in The General Rugby League Forum
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The long range try that Addo Carr scored for the Dogs was as good as I’ve ever seen.
Steps, strength, speed and a touch of nouse in standing up the fb.