Lowdesert
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31 minutes ago, Saint Toppy said:
And people complained about Wellens !!!
Watson is a coach who's failing miserably and knows his time is nearly up. Spouting utter rubbish to deflect from his own inadequacies.
According to him Greenwood just 'pushed out' and English should just have 'kept his feet a bit longer' and was 'just trying to bring a big man down'
This interview is nothing short of ebarrassing
Lees 2 matches
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2 hours ago, Dunbar said:
Why's that? It has pretty much solved the problem over there that we are discussing here.
not sure how these are collated but it gives an idea.
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7 minutes ago, ATLANTISMAN said:
CC is sadly well passed its sell by date there should be ONE FINAL and ONE WINNER just rotate the SLGF
* London
* Edinburgh
* Cardiff
* Dublin
* Barcelona
Put the tickets on sale way before have a 2 week gap between semis and final and hold back 10000 for each finalist.
Tell that to all the players. I know what the answer would be!
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Doing it in the right place at the right time they should absolutely be allowed.
Ranting on TV or in social media absolutely not.
Big fines for them both donated to RL Cares.
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1 hour ago, Dave T said:
I genuinely have no idea how this will go. I have concerns that his coaching CV isn't good enough, but hey ill go along for the ride.
What it does blow apart though is this whole toxic culture narrative. This appointment wouldn't be the one to sort that if there was one.
I've made my feelings clear, it is a lazy excuse imo for when we lose a game, and was never mentioned when we were beating Saints at Wembley for example, or battling at the top of the table.
We had two good managers in Smith and Price for 12 or so years and I find it disrespectful to claim that they had overseen a toxic culture. The only evidence anyone ever presented was that we lost the odd game we were favourites for. Well, that's sport!
Under Powell that seemed to be the narrative, that it was all about overhauling the culture and as an outsider it felt like management from the 1950s and it's broken the team to a level that hasn't been seen during the last couple of decades.
Would I have chosen Burgess at this stage of his career, no. But I'm excited to see how it goes, but then, I always am!
Its more about managing ego’s. I think SB will inspire these players to up their game now.
TBH a good pro like Vaughan must wonder wtf he has got himself into.
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1 hour ago, barnyia said:
Lasa tabu is at Whitehaven,
Yes the lad at hull is strong runner.
Think he’s out injured. He played v Hull it but not v Cas. Videos are out there somewhere
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4 minutes ago, barnyia said:
There's springer, cozza and Lacans at featherstone, jouffret and larroyer at Halifax.
The odd loan signing from the Catalans but that's all the players I can think of.
Quite a few French players are keen to play in the UK but visas are a massive problem now.
I think a few non French have come from elite teams into the British league over the years and seem to remember a Fijian? coming across this year as well.
there is a French lad from Albi with Hull fc reserves
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19 hours ago, Havenlad80 said:
I want Catalans in super league with a greater emphasis placed on the development of French born players in their starting 17 and overall squad with a limited overseas quota but if their team is going to be stacked full of non French born players then it’s a big no from me.
also there’s no need to throw your toys out of your pram by being a snowflake as I was just trying to be civil using the word mate.
It would be interesting to see how many French are playing for uk clubs, to balance whether French pro clubs are developing players. After that, you have elite and also Pole espoirs developing them.
Secondly, what is the level of homegrown players, per club, in our 3 pro leagues? Or, how many first teams don’t have local lads or lasses playing in them?
I see Haven had 3 French playing for them last year. Le Cam, Rouge and Jouffret in 2021.
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6 minutes ago, Saint Toppy said:
That shows people like Fitzpatrick in an even worse light given how they've also said he's the one who is in change of scouting out the available players. To me it shows that he doesn't do the due diligence checks on those players or have that conversation with the coach as to how they would fit in with the clubs culture, the playing group or how they fit with the way the coach wants the team to play.
Every club signs 'dud' players from time to time who for whatever reason just dont work out but Wire seem to sign more than their fair share and they have a pretty big player turnover year after year. That suggests there's something seriously wrong at the club somewhere. Powell said there was a cultural problem, maybe that problem extends beyond just the playing group and the real change needs to happen further up the food chain ?
Certainly won’t encourage those newcomers!
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3 hours ago, ELBOWSEYE said:
Quite scathing, the section on how people were treated doesn't show Powell in a good light.
It doesn’t show the players he brought in, in a good light either.
“I think last year getting rid of so many players, I don’t think we brought the right ones in.“ -
21 minutes ago, dkw said:
Wining bonuses eh..
Justin telling the wife - "alright love, got a job with Warrington"
"oh cool, whats the wage?"
"about £200k plus win bonuses"
"So £200k then"....
Reported that he’s turned Wire down and now a toss up whether it’s Canterbury or Roosters.
Maybe Wire couldn’t guarantee players would conform to his neck rubbing requirements?
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1 minute ago, Harry Stottle said:
I did say that in the post I referred to LD "make sure your head is behind or adjacent to the legs"
Not in the post I looked at about 5 quotes ago. I haven’t looked at those previous so I can’t really apologise for that.
There are finer details to it but nowhere in the rfl coaching manual did it say ‘head directly onto the limb’ or similar bullet style tackle terminology.
Larder or any other RFL coach taught that.
Phil did teach how to fiddle the rules at small sided games though!
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16 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:
@bobbruceAnd I was on one-to-one with Frank Wilson an assistant of Mr Larder on the course.
You are correct other than the head goes to the side, never head on. That applies to side, rear, front passive and blockbuster tackles.
No doubt you got marked down
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30 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:
Yes they are tackles that would be taught, but with one proviso 'get your head in the correct position, behind or adjacent to the leg coming forward'
They aren’t.
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16 minutes ago, phiggins said:
Fair enough. I think there's been two or three on here with a massive overreaction based on seemingly seeing a different incident to most people, including the MRP and match officials. Plus the reaction on the cesspit that is Twitter (or whatever Elon is calling it now), with one Fan site account retweeting all sorts of nonsense, including a suggestion that Saints sue! It's all quite bizarre, and I'm not sure the language used by Wellens helped. And Wilkin did his usual attempt to make a big statement for attention.
For me, the only question on those tackles was whether there was an attempt to wrap his arms in the tackle. Personally, I thought he did.
And I personally will need good luck in the final. Might need to get myself some blood pressure medication!
If I was one of those seen to be overacting then say but I called it how I saw it. Also said that if I had been alongside him on the pitch I’d have patted Asiata on the back.
Both tackles didn’t seem right to me but if that’s the way the judiciary saw it then fair enough but it’s not a form of tackling you would teach or coach as already said, no law to breach.
That aside, for effort and never giving in Leigh 100% deserved to be going to Wembley.
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53 minutes ago, Dave T said:
Tackle below the knee
1. (c) When a player in possession is held in an upright position by two defenders, any other defender(s) must make initial contact to the player in possession above the knees/knee joint regardless of the point of impact. A player can still be penalised for any ‘forceful, dangerous or unnecessary contact’ at the legs that involves an unacceptable risk of injury to the player
in possession.-----------
The above is from the international laws. Where it is misleading is that even if yiu were held up by only one person and attack the knees I expect a penalty would come.
And I'm not sure whether the 2nd sentence is linked to the first or independent of it.
Do the Panel refer to International laws for CC and SL games?
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18 minutes ago, StandOffHalf said:
Interesting to hear your thoughts. They largely align with how I saw things.
Difficult to not pat him on the back for both tackles mate but 2 instances of a similar action with (and we don’t know yet) season ending injuries?
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9 minutes ago, hullste said:
Two totally different tackles, Roby attempting to make a normal tackle gets his head in the wrong place as we've seen with many challenges. Asiata throws himself low with little or no regard to his own safety or that of the attacker. Not seen enough of him to know if that is his normal technique or not but he has a duty of care and if everyone starts targeting knees with force there are going to be lots of serious, potentially career ending injuries.
Just genuinely playing devils advocate here - what would you have said if this had been a Leigh player on the receiving end?
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6 minutes ago, Dunbar said:
Don't get me wrong, I think they were both ugly tackles... the second in particular.
But I don't believe that this is where the shoulder charge law plays through, on the second he held the leg and on the first he was front on.
And we cannot classify them as cannonball tackles as that is attacking the legs of a standing player.
So I just don't see which laws were broken.
If they are deemed worthy of punishment then fair enough but the game will get immeasurably harder to referee and define foul play if we punish a player putting his body in front of a ball carrier.
I don’t believe Reffing is any harder. They are just calling it as they think and the disciplinary do the rest or they go to the video ref.
Weve seen numerous charges made by the disciplinary mentioning wrapping the arms around the ball carrier. (Not sure the exact words used). Imo this approach will be considered by the panel.
Whatever the outcome I doubt there will be ground breaking punishment by any stretch and it could be just as you say, no laws broken. I think he’ll get punished though.
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21 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:
Had they been by Knowles, Lee's or Matau'tia, then they would have been performed within the rules of the game, no qualms from me.
To be fair, those tackles have been Matautias stock in trade for some time, it’s just that yesterday he chose another option and it backfired on him.
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2 minutes ago, Irish Saint said:
Congratulations to Leigh. Saints hae no one to blame apart from their own indiscipline once again.
Both teams can be proud of their efforts imo. As good a game as I’ve seen for a long time.
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24 minutes ago, Dunbar said:
Didn't think we would ever get to the point where a tackler leading with the shoulder to the legs of a ball carrier would be a foul.
Indeed, because that’s essential, but in the context I’ve given (not attempting to engage his arms) it looks to me the same as a shoulder charge. I thought he would have a case to answer when watching it live. We will see.
For the Paasi tackle he did what I would want a team mate to do - put his body on the line. I wouldn’t criticise him for the effort one bit or the effect but with slow motion analysis the disciplinary have see he has a case to answer.
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14 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:
On rewatching that Paasi injury, it was bad. It was reckless and not malicious, but that is also no defence.
IMO he’ll get done for both. For the 1st, on Walmsley, Asiata drops his arms to lead with the shoulder. No intention to ‘wrap’ or use his arms - straightforward shoulder charge on the leg.
For the second, I though he was just getting his body in the way and had his head in the wrong place but after watching it again, he dives in and has his head facing down to the ground before contact. From the video, that gives strong doubt Asiata is even looking at the target. It’s extremely careless and he has no control.
He could glean some support from the 2nd saying that he just got his head in the wrong place and his positioning was wrong but the ‘head/eyes’ down action will, again imo, condemn him.
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6 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:
Very interesting development albeit no indication of what TNT Sports has bid vs Sky.
I’m increasingly of the view that - as long as British rugby league is not worse off - a break from Sky in the IMG era would be beneficial.
Leaving aside that the Sky coverage is awfully stale and in certain ways stuck in the 90s, a rebranded Super League on a rebranded channel might just be what the doctor ordered.
Plus the diversity of being in partnership with an explosive company….or have I read that wrong?
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TV Deal to conclude end of June
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OurLeague is just not good enough. Who ever ‘manages or develops it’ has had enough time now or isn’t being given enough time/ funding to achieve a better standard.