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Everything posted by Themusician_2

  1. He got home sick and went back to new zealand
  2. I agree those guys are league guys
  3. BEcause vunivalu is a union player who didn't play league until the melbourne storm poached him. Like how aru poached folau folau is a league player. Look at the participation numbers there's far more juniors paying union than league in nz.
  4. Look at the world rankings. In my opinion nz is still a bigger draw than tonga. But i guess we got to agree to disagree.
  5. And vunivalu? RTS started league in high school hes a union kid.
  6. Ye they are australia is in a league of their own. I'm willing to bet my house england vs tonga will not garner interest like england vs nz and nz are number 1 in the world right now.
  7. By poaching 1st XV RU players. Like RTS and Vunivalu. Australia do the same thing.
  8. They are our biggest rivals and we have great games against them. Do the english cricket fans get tired of playing australia? Nope. I think the kiwis are a far bigger draw than tonga. There is no polynesian dysphoria in the UK.
  9. Toronto's visa issues have been going on for a long time. They've been rolling the dice from day one it was only a matter of time before it all came crashing down. They are in a tough situation they need as many foreigners as they can get to compete in super league but attracting the players is whats hardest. I think they gonna be a "yo-yo" team like the broncos. Going up and down constantly. And the RFL isn't to blame for this either.
  10. Wouldn't it better for the lower tier games to be in the heartlands
  11. RL is already the number 1 or 2 sport among Maori and pacific islander in New Zealand. That market is already maxed out. The key is to tap into the pakeha and migrant market. That is really the only missing piece and get the sport into schools.
  12. The most underrated post on this forum thanks for this
  13. Emphasis on the word try. Some will never escape gang life and that might damage the games imagine. Here in the england the RL community will never have gangs involved in our sport. RL is a family sport here. But I guess NZ can't afford to turn people away.
  14. RL is more popular than soccer in NZ -http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/7680-new-zealand-rugby-tv-viewers-june-2018-201808030712
  15. That's shocking can you tell us more about NZ RL and it's relationship with gangs? Who allowed this to happen?
  16. But you get my point the NRL not being well know here is because RL isn't big in Britain. it's big in the heartlands yes but not britain as a whole. Also there's plenty of RL fans who don't follow the NRL and just follow their super league team.
  17. RL isn't the domainat code in britain. Just compare to two codes world cups(2013 & 2015) in terms of coverage and spectators. Also RU had a more diverse hosting cities. Its just how it is. It's the other way around in Australia how many people know about england RU? Not many but they know british RL. RL just isn't as entrenched culturally and institutionally in britain as much as ru is.
  18. That's the case for all RL teams really. We don't have a spectator culture like soccer does in the uk where people will go to watch 0-0 mid table game in the pouring rain. Broncos are in a RL loving city though the best athletes in nz dont play RL which is the issue the warriors have. A small player pool and they have to fight with union for elite players. I think the warriors have actually pushed above their weight if you look at the RL participation numbers in NZ. Compare that to the storm i swear they've had like what 3 victorian players the warriors is full of kiwis so there's some positives. So in terms of pathway for local players the warriors are more successful but in terms of winning the storm is more successful than the warriors. Winning is the only missing piece for the warriors but seeing how strong RL is in Australia its a tough ask for them. Its like catalan trying to win SL.
  19. This should be a cause for concern that the game in the second biggest place in NZ is struggling. What chance do other areas of NZ stand if wellington is struggling.
  20. RL is oppressed in NZ so it really is kept alive by the back of passionate volunteers and an NRL club which plays in an australian competition. Its the only professional team the country has. They tried to make a semi pro comp but it folded. As for grassroots RL is oppressed in schools so not a lot play it and of the schools that do the standard isn't high and it's very recreational(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_in_New_Zealand#Participation). Its heartlands lie in west coast, some parts of auckland, huntly in waikato and I believe among tongans its now the most popular game. It's behind sports like RU, cricket, netball and soccer in popularity. So its the 5th most popular sport in New Zealand. But number 1 or 2 among Maori and pacific Islanders in New zealand. The game still has a lot of work to do to grow among pakeha kiwis and migrant groups coming from asia, europe and africa.
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