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Not sure that this is actually what happened, as I understand it the RFI acted more as facilitators in the lease negotiations but the best people to ask would be the RFL. Good look with getting an honest answer to that from them.

Let no one be confused by the situation at Keighley, there are two distinct issues, which are connected but are not a direct cause and effect relationship. The apparent inability of the present owner, putatively Austria Holdings to fund the debt which they took on when it purchased the club is one thing. The debt, liabilities, etc that was transferred to the new owner was not accrued by them it was acquired by them. Those debts etc were accrued by the previous owner of the club, its sole share holder and only registered Director from the formation of the new company in 2010 until his sudden resignation mid season this year. In the last few months Simon Harrison and Neil Cullen were registered with companies house as bona fide directors but have since resigned, see statement from Simon Harrison. However any attempt to claim non mea culpa would be disingenuous, both seemed to have had hands on management roles in the club, in Neil Cullen's case since 2010 and in Simon Harrison's for at least 4 years, so they have a direct responsibility for the state it was in before its transfer. Direct question to Simon, you have alluded to the fact that supporters didn't know the true facts,well spell them out, nb some uneducated people know how to spell libel. CKN, I appreciate the difficult position you are in but I saw nothing wrong in any of the posts you have deleted as I can personally attest to them, or have known the veracity of them from unimpeachable first hand sources. The difficulty is of course that it is easy for me to say that and for you to say that you don't believe me, the only possible way for me to try to convince you would be to identify my self and my sources which absolutely is not going to happen. PS any body looked at the relatively new company Cougar Park Limited?

Gutted, whilst that Terry was coach they'd never get promoted to sooper dooper league.

Why am I not surprised that you are incapable of expanding your post. As usual you are way off the thread topic, but I will reply. Your caricature of Academics bears no resemblance to any of my lecturers or tutors, they had no "benefactors", certainly were not " absent minded",were well connected with the outside or real world and were certainly cared who paid their way, if they did not have tenure the were working damned hard to get it.

Relevance?

Appreciated, we have more in common than which separates us.

Again I am unsure of your first sentences meaning. Are you saying that people do not want to watch "traditional" rugby league as you and I perhaps have watched and that we should somehow change it to attract more people at a game? How far do we change it before it ceases to be Rugby League? Your second paragraph makes me think that we have met but without knowing which club you are referring to I cannot be sure and genuinely respect your right to not post under your real name. I disagree, the second flight in football may not attract the TV exposure of the premier league but has plenty of spectators turn up week in week out to watch their team live. That scenario may be true of other sports.Also is it not a possibility that having acquired the broadcasting rights to Championship and League 1 the have vested interest in not showing games from these competitions.

Not trying to be funny but I don't understand your first sentence, please edit/clarify. So no place for a small club that's only value is to itself but wipes the floor with the teams it plays against? You are not my mate, I don't know you nor you I. Maybe we could be friends if we met, I don't know. Are you saying that you believe that I personally am not effective and am hankering after my childhood? I agree, societal changes are something that Rugby League has to try and adjust to, but I believe that for the foreseeable future we have to promote the game as a live sport in the first instance, and as a general interest/second favorite/other division/international second which may be more easy to promote via TV, pay per view, streaming etc. I will never look back on "Super League" with any fondness, my opinion based on my experiences, others obviously will differ. Nor will I stop watching live rugby no matter how much streamed elite 2 French rugby or any other such becomes available, the experience is so much more in real life than in 2D for 90 minutes. That is what we should aspire to and promote, not sterile TV broadcasts, they have a place but not as the first option. , ,

Reality is incapable of caring about anything, nor do I care about what the French did or didn't do. What drama are you talking about? Every year since 1989 I have travelled thousands of miles watching Rugby League, at all levels. However l have never travelled anywhere to watch a "Super League" game, there is so much more out there than that which is IMO deserving of support, that is dealing with real life.

The classic two paths in a forest. Of course their was another option, probably more than one except we cannot change history, what is done is done but that does not mean that it was the right option, there is no way to prove or disprove it. Unfortunately to me and probably others it looks like the option taken still means death. The problem for me is that if Murdoch money had been rejected then the chance of dying would have been much more equal, the money did nothing to help my club, it benefitted Wigan, Bradford, and various others much more, nor did it benefit Oldham and Paris that much, nor in my opinion would have an honorable death have been worse than a dishonourable life.

Scotchy you really don't get it. The Murdoch money was a desparate deal organised by a small group of club chairmen to prop up their failing businesses, that most of the others had to agree to because the cabal would have destroyed the whole of the existing structure if their plan was not adopted. They had no feelings for the game as a whole, they were only interested in saving themselves and THEIR clubs. The current group led by IL Duce are the successors of the original Judases.

I live in a Rugby League world, not a "Super" league World where nothing and no one else matters so long as we get all the money, and control of the whole Rugby League as well would be nice ao we can stifle complaints from the great unwashed who don't believe in our innate superiority.

Very true. There is nothing to stop Billy Slater playing amateur rugby league in this country if it is genuine. I believe Gareth Widdop turned out for Silsden when he was back in this country for a holiday.

The RFL probably cannot, not won't, and quite rightly so. People who come to this country are allowed in under specific restrictions. They cannot then just sign for a league 1 team on £300 a win when they are supposed to be on holiday or a student. Even worse is the situation that, many years ago, occurred at South Wales, not connected to the revived club, when there were deliberate attempts to manipulate the visa system which aroused the anger of government authorities when they found out.

Predictably pathetic response.

Cerulean, I hope you have been reading the thread on Rimmer, if not see page 5. But be careful, failure to accept that you have no right to not accept that the Utopia of SL is any thing other than a complete and unqualified success and that the lower levels are leeches may find you branded as a troll, primeval, a flat capper, liar, or any other epithet that the SL thought police can think of.

Why does that not surprise me, Run Forrest Run.

You beat me to it LRL. . Rupert too many people are fixated on the "elite", I will repeat what have said before on other threads, I don't give a flying about beating the Australians. I care about supporting my team, home and away, win or lose, I care about amateur rugby, junior rugby, the supporters who have given their all but had their clubs destroyed by the incompetence of the RFL, but if you asked me what is more important, beating the Australians or having 5000 more playing at U16 level and another 10 teams playing in League1? the answer is a no brainer. Your idea of a pyramid is more like an Obelisk, tall thin with a very small footprint that makes it inherently unstable especially if you keep taking away building blocks from the bottom layers. My pyramid would be like one of the great pyramids, with a huge footprint that provides for great stability even if a few blocks do fall by the wayside.

Please identify the "best players being aus/nz fellas".

You have got to be joking, their are few more toxic players and when it turns to poo he will walk away and those at Barrow who have backed this will be devastated.

Like herpes?

Your terse denials of other peoples views do not make you right.

I laugh at everything you post.

I have lived in the real world for many decades and have never met a Rupert or a Prince but have been around Rugby League for a large portion of my life. Super League is a subset of Rugby league not the other way around.

And how exactly does this show he is capable of doing the job for which he is employed? Any bunco artist knows how to present a good "front", Perez springs to mind as well.