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Its not a lot. I remember we (North Wales Crusaders) played Wigan in the Challenge Cup and got a share of the gate. Its actually a share of the profits after Wigan take out all the payments including the Directors meals! Then theres all the shares that go out as highlighted above. And the overall crowd is low as its not part of anyones season ticket - so (Wigan) fans have to pay to go to watch a game that they're likely to win at a canter - we lost 98 - 4 (last try wins though!!) ..... Its not the big pay day that everyone expects.

A shame that the RFL seem to have a news embargo on the Championship Grand Final. Not a jot on their website anyway! North Wales Crusaders were 22 - 8 down at half-time but an incredible comeback in the second half saw them beat Wigan 'A' 46 -40 and become Championship Champions! Crusader also lifted the League Leaders Shield earlier in the season ans Sundays win completed their 100% record for the season! However, the RFL in their wisdom have decided Crusaders will NOT be promoted to Super League, despite some very heavy score lines in their favour. Apparently our team have been told SL is 'invitation only'. I'm hoping that decision can be overturned.

I should add to my post above - that support for Wigan only goes for the Wheelchair Super League Grand Final. My team, North Wales Crusaders play Wigan 'A' in the Wheelchair Championship Grand Final so I'll be filly behind North Wales Crusaders!

Just got back from Old Trafford. I went to support Catalans Dragons as a regular Dragons supporter so I was hopeful we'd pull out a decent enough performance to beat Wigan. Unfortunately that wasn't to be. A very tight first half and there were probably only 10 minutes in the second half that Dragons looked like getting near Wigans line. Wigans defence was spot on to be fair and their exploitation of a gap when we had 12 on the pitch was the difference between the two teams. Gutted we lost, but congratulations to Wigan, who were the better team today.

I first met Robert Fassolette, the French Team Manager in 2014 or 2015 when we played France in a European tournament and again in 2017 when France hosted the Wheelchair Rugby League World cup. As in the documentary he was always passionate in his advocacy of Wheelchair Rugby League and as one of the founders of the sport saw his role as the guardian of the spirit and ethos of the sport. He's always advocated the sport for disabled athletes and those with able bodies to comply with the rules to ensure a fair game between all athletes. The French are unhappy that the sport has, in their viewpoint, changed to be disadvantageous to disabled athletes whose movement is impacted by their injury or disability. That has been their viewpoint for some considerable time and not just in 2022. There's definitely more to it than just unhappy and not having their own way. I have to agree with you that the RLWC2021 Wheelchair final in Manchester was a spectacular experience. It was fast furious and got the crowd absolutely enthralled; the atmosphere was electric. I hope many of those who went to the final watched the documentary and discovered more about the people who play the sport. My utmost respect is always for the athletes who play the game.

Sorry to have lost him from North Wales Crusaders. He was a big favourite with the fans and will be missed. Looks like Hornets have picked up a great signing.

Spot on.

I'm responding to the post where you said you didn't want to watch Donny because it would be a blow out score where you'd beat them by 80 points. The remainder of League 1 teams were all competing to get to Championship level last season. While I accept only Dewsbury and Doncaster made the cut, the competition to get there was pretty fierce. I'm more concerned that the remaining 8 clubs don't get cut adrift and theres a sustainable structure for them to play in.

So its OK to have blow out scores that are in the same league but exclude the 8 remaining L1 teams for the same reason?

...but do you think you'll beat them by 80?

Doncaster got promoted...as it stands you WILL be playing them!

I think the French would support that. The other viewpoint is that limits inclusivity, for example Jack Brown started playing Wheelchair Rugby league with his brother,as there was no other sport where disabled players could play with able-bodied players at the same level. I've come across this many times with Wheelchair Rugby League....in fact we now have a situation in Wales where a mum and daughter play for Cardiff Blue Dragons and her husband and son play for Torfaen Tigers! I've always leaned towards inclusivity but I do have some sympathy for the French viewpoint. If Wheelchair rugby could adapt the rules in a way that doesn't give an advantage to one set of players then I think there could be a compromise/.

1. Not sure. When teams submit team sheets prior to a game they coaches mark players as AB (able-bodied) or LM (limited movement - these players can tap their wheels to restart and score. They wear armbands to signify that they have limited movement). Its not just the able-bodied players that France are concerned about, its any player (who may have some disability, e.g. epilepsy) who has more mobility than a regular wheelchair user. 2. The only mandate at the moment is that there must not be more than 2 able-bodied players on the pitch during any part of the game. That can mean you have 5 non-wheelchair users playing, which the French perceive as an advantage. I'm sure that the French would like to adapt the rules to ensure more consideration was given to players with spinal injuries and regular wheelchair users, or players with amputations or limb disabilities. 3. I can only answer from Wales perspective - funding and professionalism. In the World Cup England had a coaching staff of 11, Wales permanent staff was 4 (including the media manager!); Wales recruited a physio for the tournament and we were allocated a doctor and a chaplain. England and France would include strength and conditioning, video analysis, etc. England would hold weekend training camps in St. Georges Park, whereas Wales would meet at most once a month in a sports hall prior to the World Cup. England are well funded in comparison to the celtic nations and the set up is on a more professional basis. For our World Cup in 2017 all our players and staff self-funded (£1500) to play and had to take leave from work....you can imagine how this effects squad choice! Fortunately for the World Cup 2021 all players were given pro-rata payments for the first, and so far, only time. Wales staff (apart from the media manager) are unpaid. Wheelchair Rugby League is growing internationally, Brazil have expressed interest and Norway were due to play in 2021 but pulled out due to difficulties emphasised by covid. In my opinion the tournament organisers need to ensure sufficient funding is in place for travel and participation as well as payment for players.

Its a possibility but not the most important matter to the French. I thinks they'd be happier if the rules were reviewed so that able-bodied players had to adapt their play so that they wouldn't have an advantage over regular wheelchair users or players with disabilities that effect their movement.

I've been inside the Wales Wheelchair RL Team camp at two World Cups as their team manager. I've also attended the pre-game meetings with other team managers and tournament directors. In fairness France have held the same view in regards to the disability aspect of the sport and would go down the disability classification route if they could get agreement .... and they expressed their view at all the pre-tournament meetings. I don't think Wheelchair Rugby will go down that route purely because of its inclusivity. In the 2022 World Cup Wales had 12 player - 10 men, 2 women, our youngest player was just 18 and our oldest in his 50s, all players bar 1 had some disability...from cerebral palsy to photosensitive epilepsy....and that for me makes it the game it is. It was great to see the back story of the players, my only complaint was, it would have been nice to see some of the other teams in the competition, Scotland, USA and Ireland never even got a mention, but I accept the story was about the top two teams and it made great viewing.

It would be nice to see a Wigan win. I've known a lot of the Wigan Warriors from way back when they were Leyland. I've a lot of good friends in both teams but I'd like Wigan to win for their player coach Phil. PS - If you've not watch it yet, get on BBC i-Player and watch Storyville: Made of Steel

I hope he starts playing Masters Rugby League just so I can say I tackled him and buy him a pint!

I had already been looking at campsites and Aires...I was going to drive over in our motorhome for the duration.

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I'll look forward to seeing the documentary. Should be great viewing. Thanks for the heads up

Catalans Dragons are the Super League team I follow so I would definitely go. I was there two years ago at the Grand Final when they lost. I try to their games in the UK when North Wales Crusaders aren't playing or I'm not playing for Chester Gladiators Masters.

Lovely Cite and Bastide to visit too.

Would they be a great addition to League 1/ Championship or an even greater loss to the FFR Elite 1? Selfishly I'd love them to join, but I'm not sure what effect it would have on the French leagues.

Appreciate all the responses and amazing comments our fans have received from Doncaster fans. I'd like to emphasise our beef is with Doncaster stadium management and certainly not with Doncaster fans or their Club. All the very best for next season..and hopefully we can join you in the Championship at the end of 2024.