phildog

....at The Mount today, who were they playing? Are they coming to the next game?

Is Kieran Hepworth actually signed on as a Batley player? I don't follow why, when we were struggling for PROPER forwards, we let a player CHOOSE to play an amateur game when he has already impressed at this level. That would already suggest that summat's up. More so in the fact that a couple didn't look interested in being at Batley today.

Lights are a requisite DF, got to be done, used or not. So, no lights, no club. I know, no players also is no club, but when the lights are done we won't have to spend any more money for years so should have money for players EXCEPT RFL will keep cutting funding to the bone so we still won't have money for players....

Tough, tough, tough....17 distinctly not even average performances. 3 stood up a little: Ward, just plugged away. Parsons looked a touch more interested than most. Butterworth, got peppered all day in the wind, took all but one with 2 tacklers in his ribs, and looked like our best chance of scoring for 70+ minutes.

He wasn't wrong, even if he was wrong!

Agree Il cattivo, an absolutely appalling show, no togetherness, beaten by basic rugby at speed. Nobody looks interested, field kicking is poor, straight down a throat, no variation. This is not acceptable, this is a bottom 2 team.

MoM v York White. 12 votes. 3pts Butterworth. 11 votes. 2pts Parsons. 11 votes. 2pts Arundel. 10 votes. No 3rd pt. Woods. 8 votes . Brown/Moore. 5 votes. Myers. 3 votes. Ward. 1 votes Totaliser Woods. 8 pts Butterworth. 7 pts Greensmith. 7 pts Brown. 5 pts Manning. 5 pts Parsons. 4 pts White. 4 pts Leak. 3 pts

Because I think he's worth a place in the 17..

And in Moor's Saturday team....Same DR/loan players, hope we get a good run out of them. Halifax have only named 19, referee M. Lynn.

Yet why is Kieran Hepworth back playing with The Moor, considering )a we're bggered for forwards and b) he's worth a place?

Wasn't there yesterday so have only seen the highlights, which were quite brief. People complaining about Gledhill need a shake, he's been through a lot personally this last few months, short on game time but he's back on 1 week team training. As someone else said, we're swapping and changing the team set-up weekly, we really need to get dr/loans coming regularly and also missing Walshaw, Manning, Flynn has a real effect. One thing I have noticed in most of our games and again on the highlights, what seems to be letting us down and putting us on the back foot is that we're missing a large chunk of first tackles and sometimes following on with missed 2nd tackles and we don't cover the ball enough. Considering the upheaval we're not a half bad team but it needs knitting together as I said with regular players.

Sorry, don't know why the list isn't coming out as a list!

MoM v Leigh Greensmith 6 votes. 3pts Leak. 3 votes. 2pts Woods. 2 votes. 1pt. Ward. 1 vote Totaliser Woods. 8pts. Greensmith. 7pts. Butterworth, Brown, Manning 5pts. Leak. 3pts. Parsons. 2pts. White. 1pt.

Regarding Toffee and Bully talking about centres, I'll say again; we're playing (my sponsored player) Elliot Kear, an international centre with SL experience but now 36 on the wing and a try scoring phenomenon for us last season on the wing as his centre. Because Joe Arundel played almost a full game v Widnes with a busted calf he had to miss out at Leigh so Blake was put up there but then broke down pre-match so the bench gad to becee-arranged. Next biggest guy in the squad was Ollie G who had to go into the pack, although Alfie is a big lad who could have gone in their. A team has to be turned out and we know that at the moment we're playing more than 1 square peg in a round hole, but it's how we get by. 36-0 down at half-time and everybody in Rugby League would have been expecting Leigh double it and more but we lost the 2nd half 26-4 by doing what we do, kept going, kept tackling, kept competing. With DR/loan men back this week (hopefully) I still expect us to beat York at home. Things just gave to get better soon!

Agree KTF, York game is a double-edged sword; they've had a shocking start, point in our favour, point against us is that they'll fancy changing it against a side at their level. I don't see York as any better than Widnes, so a similar or slightly raised performance and with the return of rated loans/DR we should be OK.

Understood S I B!

Also lost Blake in the warm-up. Need to be ttying to make some loans into long term, reckon Mokko will be losing hair over this injury lark. I've been the biggest critic in the past about not bringing in players and our spending but I can see that we're so bound by poor central funding and other things. We do what we do despite these things. As long as we have a squad of players giving what they have and we can see that then what else can we do?

Now Manning Roger. Regarding hookers, we had 5 in the 17 against Bradford, Leaky, Parsons, Moore, Blake and Smith. The expected return if Gkeds might help somewhat and let's hope at least Martin gets back.

MoM v Widnes; Greensmith. 34 votes. 3pts Brown. 14 votes. 2pts. Leak. 12 votes. 1pt. Woods. 11 votes. Martin. 6 votes. Moore. 4 votes. Burton. 4 votes. White. 3 votes. Totaliser Woods. 6pts Butterworth. 5pts Manning. 5pts Brown. 5pts Greensmith. 4pts Parsons. 2pts Leak. 1pt White. 1pt

Referee Mr. L. Rush.

Martin then only eligible to pay 3 games in his 4 week loan, let's hope Leigh and Wakefield extend those 2.

Even more difficult is that in 3 consecutive games we've had 3 differing duos of DR/loan players, the coaching team has to not only integrate new players each week but drill our own players how to use whatever each new player brings. That it can be done with 3 2 hour sessions is credit to the coaches, our squad and the players who gave come in. I personally thought that this week's pair were Batley types through and through. Whether we'll get any this week is another matter, which then leads to a new headache of turning 17 players out.

I nearly had to defy my own advice about bracketing players but I ended up sadly having to leave some very good performances out 1 Leak because he pulled the team back together, got us on the front foot and some of the hits he put in against Murray, Langtree and Bennion were admirable. 2 Greensmith, took the attack to Widnes, used his physique well. 3 Brown, followed on from last week, put all he had in again. Sorry to Robbie, who apart from 1 mistake, was great all afternoon despite being full of cold and having been sick. Joe Arundel played with a busted calf, Martin and High who fitted right in, Wardy was the usual Wardy, flying in to every run, every tackle. So many could have made the list.

A great game contested this week by 2 teams who wanted to play rugby, nobody tried stirring it up, no penalties, not even a high shot, a display from officials quite the opposite from last week. We had a much more balanced side out today but still don't get the Burton/Kear combination nor why Myers didn't play and why Hepworth wasn't mentioned, is he on holiday? Both loan/DR forwards added to our game and with the expected return of Gledders next week we might have ridden out the worst. We looked nervous in the first 15 minutes, gave away an easy Leaky-type try early then got opened up for another, and there was the starting of a bit of writing on the wall. Then as usual Leaky came on and the picture changed, he pulled the forwards together, gaps closed up and when we got some ball we cut 'em up a bit, Greensmith in particular I thought used his height and weight to run out wide and caused problems. Even when TomG kicked them 14-6 ahead I felt that their forwards weren't as lively as they had been then at 20-12 I was happy with our performance, the chances were there, we just kept plugging.

MoM v Bulls Brown. 30 votes Manning 16. " Moore. 12. " Totaliser Woods. 6 pts Butterworth 5 pts Manning. 5 pts Brown. 3pts Moore. 3 pts Myers. 2 pts Parsons. 2 pts Greensmith. 1 pt White. 1 pt