JonM
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Harry Smith deserved Player of the match.
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Fisher-Harris has a swipe at the tackler after the p-t-b pretty much every time, doesn't he?
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Two brilliant teams. Feels like Penrith could run away with it if they sort out their kicking game though.
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Don't disagree with any of that. There are some exceptions in UK sport, of course, but Arsenal, Aston Villa etc. have 100+ years history behind them.
As for the hundred, city names like Northern, Southern, Oval, Trent & Welsh? Don't see those on my map
If anything, that's an argument for non-geographic names (like Arsenal, Harlequins or whatever). Calling the Northwest hundred team Manchester immediately cut their potential supporter base in half, AFAICT.
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11 minutes ago, GeordieSaint said:
Has he left TO then?
He's part-time at St. George Illawarra in the NSW Cup.
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13 minutes ago, jim_57 said:
Can someone explain how this hypothetical buyout would even work?
It's a throwaway quote, with zero thought behind it, but I could imagine the NRL approaching the SL chairmen with an offer to buy the SL Europe competition. Or in a semi-hostile takeover, I suspect they could buy the six or seven weakest clubs from their owners relatively inexpensively and vote through whatever changes they wanted.
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3 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:
Yeah I get that, I still think Manchester and Liverpool offer the Lancastrian clubs opportunities too like Leeds, Catalans, and London, and perhaps also Bolton with Leigh as you describe.
Seems highly unlikely to me that people in Liverpool would ever support a team from St. Helens.
We have a couple of teams in Manchester and their problem is that they don't have much latent support - Salford getting to the GF hasn't impacted their crowds in any meaningful way. And of course we already have a big occasion there each year. There needs to be a proper strategy for RL in Manchester, but Salford playing a game in a larger venue probably isn't part of it. I could imagine Warrington drawing some support from Irlam, Altrincham commuter belt kind of area, but even that is a stretch.
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41 minutes ago, NETIGER said:
Not questioning about the money. Once that was gone the inevitable happened. My question though what has happened to all their players with academy / reserves / championship experience from say last season and further into the past?
Off the top of my head, almost all got picked up by other clubs at the end of last season.
Jack Johnson - now at Oldham
Markus Walker - now at Dewsbury
Alex Clegg - ???
Alex Donaghy - now at York
Nikau Williams - now at York
Jay Chapelhow - now at Oldham
Curtis Davies - now at Dewsbury
Connor Bailey - now at York
Denive Balmforth - now at Hull
Ted Chapelhow - now at Oldham
Rob Tuliatu - at Avignon I think
Gideon Boafo - London B
Max Flanagan - Rochdale
Mac Walsh - Hunslet
Jack Miller - Keighley
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1 hour ago, Tommygilf said:
Equally, I think there is value for any club in getting a large amount of latent support to 1 big game a year. Only 4 max can make a final each year, for the rest a big event crowd can be years away.
I think this is a good point - although perhaps that maps best to a club like Leeds or Catalans (or dare I say London Broncos) where you have a much bigger stadium on your doorstep and perhaps some actual latent support that might turn up. Leigh trying to tap into Bolton might be interesting.
Generally, when we have done on the road fixtures, there's been no real point to it, or any attempt to follow up. There is no value in randomly playing a Hull game in Middlesbrough or wherever.
I could make the argument for say Warrington playing in Chester, North Wales, Macclesfield etc. but it would only work as part of a multi-year strategy to become a regional team and to get kids outside of Warrington & Halton playing, free travel from those places to certain home games and so on. And all of those things would cost money.
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1 hour ago, Griff said:
Do you think the NRL would be as successful here?
How did the Brisbane Broncos takeover of London go? Not as well as they thought?
There have been plenty of administrators and officials who've worked in both SL and the NRL too.
Shane Richardson was Souths CEO for over a decade, also Cronulla & Penrith & now at Wests I believe. He was NRL Head of Strategy (and on the RFL board at one point). His attempt at expanding UK RL by setting up Gateshead ended up with them being merged into Hull FC.
Blake Solly went to boarding school in NSW before coming here and ending up as the SL General Manager before going back home to become CEO of the club he supported as a child - Souths.
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1 hour ago, gingerjon said:
Until it turned out that they'd spent £30m on an app that didn't work, I did say the Australian sport the RFL could learn the most from would be soccer.
Except soccer in Australia is far bigger than RL is in the UK and has all kinds of marketing advantages that RL doesn't have.
If you're picking an Australian sport which seems to have been well run for decades, AFL would be the one to go for, although RL has done a far better job of international expansion on a fraction of the income. And maybe the fact that AFL gets essentially zero coverage here means that whatever things they mess up go unnoticed.
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Would've been a complete non-starter up until last year, as most NRL players wouldn't have got a working visa to come here. But the RFL got the home office to change the rules for 2024, so that anyone under 24 who has played in NRL, NSW or Qld Cup can come here now. So now it's just the small matter of non-availability of certain stadia, the likely loss of tv contracts due to overlap with soccer etc. that would be in the way. That plus whenever Aussies have tried to run clubs here, it's always ended badly.
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I did parkrun in California a couple of weeks back, quite an attractive bayside location in silicon valley, on part of a 15+ mile long cycling/ walking/ running trail. Mostly British & Australian volunteers, and tourists from UK, Australia & Canada, but a nice friendly feel with a monthly post run picnic and plenty of silicon valley 'locals'.
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4 hours ago, Sports Prophet said:
This is a very British mindset.
It really, really isn't. It's pretty much universal. Just about every other international sport has neutral officials - football, cricket, rugby union, events in the Olympic Games.
Maldives Football flies in a referee from India or Sri Lanka for big games because every referee they have is an ex-player of one of the small number of clubs they have.
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1476 for Workington T vs Whitehaven.
3700+ for Keighley v Bradford
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1 hour ago, Jim from Oz said:
What is the all-time attendance record for a six game super league round? Thanks
83 357, Easter 2023.
Castleford Tigers v Wakefield Trinity 8,075; Hull FC v Hull KR 20,985 (capacity), Wigan Warriors v St Helens 24,275 (capacity); Leigh Leopards v Salford Red Devils 6,002, Catalans Dragons v Warrington Wolves 10,786; Leeds Rhinos v Huddersfield Giants 13,234
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If that 76,699 aggregate is correct, it means Catalans got 8755 or thereabouts.
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10 170 the attendance
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Just now, Click said:
Gosh, not sure if I have ever seen that penalty happen before in RL about "jumping into contact" But yeah, he definitely launches himself over the Cas player and into the other one.
Odd thing to do - it was a blatant penalty.
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Be interesting to see whether Harry Smith is playing against Penrith next week.
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Just now, Chrispmartha said:
Shoulder to the head, that’s a red card
Exactly. No attempt to use his arms to make a tackle.
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1 hour ago, yipyee said:
UFC boxing and NFL all added layers of protection to the athlete, albeit not as much in UFC.
Amateur boxing head guards mandatory. Only 3 rounds so fatigue less of a factor (when most injuries occur). Big gloves.
NFL starting to remove head contacts and now horse collar tackles which can lead to whiplash. Helmets and pads including 7 point lower pads provide enough protection to keep the aggression levels high
NFL has already paid out around a billion dollars in compensation related to concussion and head injuries, with more to come.
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On 09/02/2024 at 08:58, JohnM said:
Way back in 1989 my then boss used an HP pocket scientific calculator, which is when I first (and last!) heard about RPN.
Still used in quite a bit of low level computing - the Java virtual machine is all RPN, for example.
Sat 24th Feb: WCC: Wigan Warriors v Penrith Panthers KO 8pm (Sky/BBC/SuperLeague+)
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Yes, thought he was a close second for MotM.
Got to give some credit to the Wigan fans too - haven't heard an atmosphere like that for some years.