David Shepherd
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4 hours ago, Dovster said:
I also attend a good many Championship games and I'm sorry but must disagree with most of what you say.
What do I hope to achieve? Nothing, other than giving my opinion on a fans forum.
Maybe many of the referees are new to this level but IMO that still makes them poor. I'm sure in time they will become more exprerienced and improve but right here right now the overall standard is poor.
If the refereeing standard was good, I would say so. Refereeing isn't easy I accept and many fans only see the game from their own perspective. IMO we lack consistancy. One referee gives a penalty one week and the following week nothing.
I genuinly go to the matches each week not knowing what to expect from the referee. I don't expect the Referee to get every decision right just the majority of them with some consistancy.
I get where you're coming from.
All I would say is that when I watch the Monday night game as a neutral, the ref always seems to get most decisions right. But when I'm stood behind the sticks at Post Office Road, they are useless and get everything wrong, because I'm wearing blue and white hooped glasses.
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8 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:
Do me a favour Damien and explain how the catchment areas are designated, is it area authority or postcode applicable?
I ask because Lowton which borders Leigh - approx 1/2 mile from the LSV - has a Warrington postcode but is under Wigan Metro for payable services, I am sure there must be further examples of this throughout the clubs/areas.
As far as I can see, it's based on local authority population, which is less than ideal. As an example, both Fev and Cas have quite a decent following in the Selby area, Cas also have a following in Methley and Allerton Bywater (both Leeds CC) but that doesn't count because it's not within Wakefield MDC's borders. Wakefield themselves have more than a handful of fans in the Barnsley MDC area.
Bit of rethink required on this metric.
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6 minutes ago, Lowdesert said:
Not sure if this has been mentioned but TNT sport are also interested https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyleague/article-12294661/TNT-Sport-make-shock-bid-rugby-Super-League-TV-rights.html
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Where are Bradford getting all their brass from? They're not having great attendances and that hole in the ground must cost a fortune to maintain.
Hope we're not gonna see the buckets come out at the end of the season.
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18 minutes ago, Simon Hall said:
"Transfer Rumour Mill 22/23"
Conversations develop and often go off at a tangent. Chill
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30 minutes ago, roversspud said:
Even then, knowing Fev , we'll concede an 8 point penalty try under the sticks and lose by point as the penalty goes over!!!
That really would be typical Fev
Might revise my rules of hope to a 9 point lead. Even then, we'd probably concede the longest drop goal in history from the restart and lose in golden point.
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1 hour ago, The Blues Ox said:
Against Batley or Toulouse would Fev fans be that confident?
Absolutely not. I love Harry's optimism but as he says, we're way too close to be confident. I'll start believing we're going up if we're two scores up in the GF, with 60 seconds left on the clock.
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Nu Brown reportedly on the radar of Hull, Leeds and C*s. Now there's a player I would love to see back in blue and white.
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On 08/07/2023 at 20:30, gazza77 said:
Halifax need a dry ground, surely you've been told that before.
Any truth in the rumour that half the population of Batley was out with watering cans yesterday morning?
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On 04/07/2023 at 14:55, Monkeymagic22 said:
Cas I guess are desparate for a hooker, but I wouldn’t class Johnston as one of the best in the Championship.
Rumoured to have been after Connor Jones.
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16 hours ago, idrewthehaggis said:
And so did I. For people like me who has had to bite their lips because of a Murdoch owned Sky, I am going to struggle with "Da Zone."
Never really got this whole avoiding a company because of one's opinion on who owns it, especially if you've never met that person and have no 1st hand knowledge of them. Not something I've ever lost sleep about. Anyhow, Murdoch hasn't owned Sky for nearly 10 years.
Having looked into Len Blavatnik, can't see why you'd struggle.
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I've had a go at scoring Fev. Back of a fag packet stuff, but making some conservative assumptions about stuff not in the public domain, I get us to between 10 and 12. Comfortably a grade B.
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Having never really heard of DAZN before, had a little look at them. They're really quite big, 20m global subscribers and growing. Could be a game changer if we can get on there a couple of times a week. We could also give them the rights to all TV games outside the UK/ROI for free as a sweetener.
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8 minutes ago, raiders_1875 said:
So owning your own stadium is 0.250, but having LED advertising boards is 0.125
Those LED boards make the sport look serious and modern on TV, presumably they're a big source of revenue too which is why they have a relatively high score.
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1 hour ago, Tommygilf said:
I can see the logic, its just where does the other game go. And likewise, some Super League clubs will want some 3pm Sunday matches through the season.
Monday night?
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35 minutes ago, The Blues Ox said:
Whoever gets promoted really has some huge decisions to make. If by some miracle Fax were to make it and I think Fev should think along similar lines, I would make very little improvements to the playing squad as its very likely they will finish last with the type of player they can bring in so it would really be in their best interests to stay part time and bank the Tv money and wait to see where they stand on the mock grades. That money could then be used to try and increase points scored in areas away from the pitch. Going full time could be a disaster for the club as if they don't make the grade it will put them under real financial pressure the season after not to mention make it really difficult to put together a competitive squad in the championship the following season.
Probably won't matter longterm anyway as we will have something new in place in 3-4 years again.
During your last season in the promised land, how did crowds fair when you were getting tonked every week? The big risk with your plan is a collapse in revenue and stadium usage. No one will want to watch on TV either. All bad under the grading.
If (and it's a massive if) we get there this time we've got to try and be competitive. I doubt many will go to see us get spanked week in, week out.
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39 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:
Said it from day one Damien when IMG posted it's intentions that they were heavily skewed in favour of SL clubs, never ever have I like many others on this site who stated that this system would be progressive for all clubs to reach the top, the carrot is dangled so far in front that those outside SL may has well bend down and eat the grass.
There is also a "Golden Ticket" awaiting the winners of the championship this season, favourites being Fev and Toulouse, is either one willing to speculate to accumulate, promotion will be the making of one whilst investment and failing could prove to be catrosophic for the loser.
Any thoughts?
I still quite like it. The incumbency bonus is not insurmountable.
Definitely a big leg up if you can get promoted this year though.
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27 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:
We need to be careful about walking away from Sky, but certainly if they are going to low ball us, their exclusivity needs to be challenged. I also think this will help us get every match broadcast somewhere, which we have been well behind on.
My practical assumption would be that of the 6 Super League games a week, we end up with something like this:
Thursday Evening Sky
Friday Evening Sky
Saturday Lunchtime ch4
(Saturday Evening Catalans home games Sky)
Sunday triple header DAZN or a n other. 12.30, 3, 5.30 kick offs.
For what its worth I also think we're missing a trick not playing a televised game at 3pm on a Saturday whilst the football blackout is still in place.
I'd avoid mid-afternoon on Sundays. You'll have probably 15-20,000 people that like rugby league missing from your potential TV audience.
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29 minutes ago, dboy said:
Just like no-one's ever mentioned your second-hand stand. You should promote it more.
Your ground is a pastiche. A cabbage-patch collection of stands, with a cabbage-patch pitch. On a hill.
3/10 trolling score. Put some effort in lad.
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2 minutes ago, dboy said:
Floodlights aren't even amateur standard, let alone TV-friendly LEDs.
I've got brighter lamps on my bicycle.
And I don't even have a bicycle.
Really? No one's ever mentioned it before.
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1 hour ago, Toby Chopra said:
Depends on who gets which matches. If Sky still have first and third choice, plus the other sports I watch, then I'd probably stick with them+Channel 4, and skip DAZN's 4th/5th choices. I think most would do this.
But if DAZN opens up a cheaper option for those who can't/won't pay for Sky, then it could be a Win-Win for all.
Most important thing is keeping 8 games a year on C4 INCLUDING a Grand Final simulcast.
Oh, I'd never ditch Sky while they showed RL. I mean if they didn't have RL. I also watch cricket but rarely have the time to indulge so it would be a waste of money for me.
I'd like to see one game from each round on C4 in a regular Saturday afternoon time slot. If we can get every game covered by a mixture of C4/Sky/DAZN then that's perfect. Also let DAZN have worldwide rights for all games.
Ideal schedule would be:
Thursday Night - Friday Night - Saturday lunch - Saturday night - Sunday Morning (so that champ games are not clashing with SL on TV) and Monday night.
Move the weekly Champ TV game to Tue or Wed
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1 hour ago, HawkMan said:
Moving from Sky, a popular multi faceted broadcaster, not just sports , but general programming, to a niche by comparison one, doesn't on the face of it seem a good idea.
If RL decamped from Sky how many subscribers who don't just subscribe for RL but for different sports, mainly football, and also watch Sky's drama and film channels, would ditch Sky? I'd say just the RL diehards, a move to DAZN would greatly lessen the opportunities for the casual fan to watch. If DAZN took just a game a round okay, but if they took it all, bad news, unless they offered much more than Sky which enabled the game to secure its future, but at the probable cost of any chance of greatly widening its appeal.
I'd ditch Sky Sports, but I doubt I'd ever leave Sky completely.
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Don't think we've anything to fear. Looking through the scoring system, I think we score at least as well, maybe better than our neighbours.
My only worry is the TV viewership metric. That's heavily skewed towards SL clubs, especially the ones that get picked for Channel 4.
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43 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:
Maybe, maybe not but we have a history of leading where others follow.
From a Wakefield POV, it’s interesting that the difference between finishing 11th and 12th is a mere 0.111 grading points.
Add in the 0.1 bonus for winning the championship and there's nowt in it. Win both the GF and 1895 and you score more.
Seems reasonable. In fact the whole document seems reasonable.
My only concern is the TV viewing metrics, that's heavily skewed towards SL clubs.
And from a Fev point of view, I think we score at around the same as our neighbours overall.
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Sat 22 July : Betfred RL Challenge Cup Semi Final : St Helens v Leigh Leopards KO 14:30 BBC1
in The General Rugby League Forum
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Brilliant result for Leigh. Well chuffed for them and for Degsy.
Have a cracking day out at Wembley @Harry Stottle and @GUBRATS win or lose, this is a massive achievement.