Mattrhino

If we ditch Wembley because 60k doesn't look good in it. I assure you that it won't be long until the Challenge Cup will be played at Elland Rd in front of 31k in no time at all.

Problem is you start messing with the format and the locations. You can end up like the Powergen Cup/Anglo-Welsh now the Premiership Cup. You go from 60 -75,000 at Twickenham every year to 8,000 at club stadiums.

Not just that, it is one of the top attended sporting events in the UK period.

Yeah its almost as if they have decided that. To become a premium event you just need to start charging premium prices. I really can't see who is going to be paying £180, £110, £85 etc.. for a game of RL. I certainly won't. I bought tickets to the NFL the biggest league in the world for £60.

To be fair 23k attended Leeds v Cas at ER a few years ago. If two of Leeds, Cas or Wakey were playing the crowd might have been touching 30k and we would be crowing from the roof tops.

I suppose we can't complain too much. We have been bemoaning the cheap tickets for years on here. But I agree that is crazy pricing.

So your argument is that my statement was correct.

There are only 12 clubs its pretty easy to have one bad year then bam the club is fighting for its existence. If the club doesn't have a rich benefactor then you go into Administration. Now we have clubs like Bradford and Widnes who are nothing but shells of themselves. It could also have been Hull KR if it wasn't for Hudgell. And what is it all for? Some ideology that there needs to be some jeopardy at the end of the season. I don't think it should come to killing off the small amount of full time clubs for the sake of P&R

Its a pain to get to and a dodgy area. I didn't particularly enjoy the experience at White Hart Lane for the NFL. Much prefer Wembley.

Oh god don't remind me of that dross. Was worse than a exhibition match played in a library

75% of ER is about 8,000

Mismanagement is certainly rife in this sport but you cannot blame a club or its directors for getting financial turmoil after relegation. Its like you going from a 100k a year salary professional job to a part time supermarket Assistant on 10k a year overnight. How would you deal with that?

That's the crux of the matter, in an ideal world maybe P&R in Rugby League could work but in reality you are risking killing off a club that our game can ill afford for some ideology that P&R is in our sporting culture. Which in reality is wrong. Our sport has not had P&R for the majority of its history. Its only when we started trying to emulate soccer in the 70's and 80's that we brought it in.

Problem is sport in this country (not just RL by the way) is still in the 1980's where your lucky to spend half an hour lining up in a ###### smelling dank concourse for your watered down beer and microwaved pie. It is slowly changing, the new Spurs stadium is as good as you get in the US for stadium amenities but that is only one stadium in the whole country. The biggest clubs in this country Man Utd and Liverpool still play in delapalated century old stadiums with different additions from different decades.

By revenue yes, because they are the richest country in the world. But by gpobal viewership PL is more watched

Even the Champions League has fallen in relevance lately. Hidden away on BT sports and the same teams playing every year has made it rather stale (sound similar)

Or is it just the trend, the FA cup final used to be the biggest game in English Football now its been demoted to almost a reserves competition and most Recently they don't fill the stadium for the semi's at Wembley.

I know the RFL can't win here, as people on here have spent years bemoaning our low Groupon style ticket prices for our marquee events. But on the other side who is paying £45-£55 for this? Its more than Leeds Utd charge for Premier League games which is arguably the biggest sporting league in the world.

6 hrs in a cramped stadium with poor/Expensive food and drink options. And that's not a slight on Elland Rd in particular. I couldn't think of any stadium bar maybe Wembley where I could comfortably spend 4-6 hrs in.

Are you on the wind up? Leigh is used all the blumin time. And that trick about putting the crowd into a smaller stadium never works. You just end up with a smaller crowd period because nobody thinks going to a small stadium in Leigh for a semi final is an Event.

You can tell by the awful cut they are Oxen, just look how long the sleeves look and how the shirt tightens at the midriff.

One of the biggest problems for French clubs and French players is that once P&R came back Catalan had to pack thier team with more foreigners and scrap development of French players

Ah ok my bad

Sorry I just can't believe that. Its not just bad design its the whole template/cut that is wrong and the material is Spanish Market quality.

I honestly have never seen a worse brand than oxen and that is not hyperbole. The cut of the shirts are completely wrong. I've never known any brand that can't get a t-shirt template right.