sweaty craiq

Ownership changes - it’s a moving landscape

and that is the problem - admin has a role just not as leaders, which we need.

My views are simple so I will explain them 1. Club owners have the right to set goals and budgets, select key people to lead, manage and be accountable for the results against those budgets. 2. The SL is the income generator that funds the sport, and must lead. If enough income doesnt come in nothing filters through. 3. Recent years have seen a number of wealthy owners coming into SL motivated/ to take their club/sport forward eg HKR, Hull, Wigan, Wakefield, Leigh to add to the longer standing ones at Saints, Wire, Leeds, Huddersfield, Catalans. That exposes Salford and Cas - hopefully they can find that external money. As a sport I can not recall having a top table of that wealth motivated to throw millions in - they must have control of the coal face.

The great thing about opinions is we all have them - mine is we had a clueless pen pushing board of non producing jobsworths slapping each other on the back and wasting money achieving nothing tangible.

Are you making the allegation that I am Derek? - another clueless keyboard warrior at work. You pathetic person if that is the case. 60,000 people will still chip in despite the pontifications of a few on here, we will continue to invest in the clubs we love in whatever way we can for as long as we can. We will also continue to respect the money our owners put in to provide the spectacle we enjoy so much. Committees do not work, leadership does. If you want to become a leader do something about it.

The pro game was the point. Take RU, the Premiership clubs take ownership of organising, broadcasting rights and other commercial activity. The premier league is the same/similar.

My case proven your honour. Let the people who pay make the calls, basic business and common sense that somehow has been removed from so many so called RL supporters. You want to make them calls tip in the money

It’s like watching 2 pub teams on a Sunday morning friendly after a Saturday of 12 pints and a curry.

When will the average RL fan get it into their thick skulls that the pro game is alive because owners put millions in every year, that’s the reality and with it they get the right to choose how the game is run, don’t like it then band together and remortgage your house - you will have my full admiration and have earned the right to have influence/a vote

Wigan are in a great place with Danson, he could give away 20k season tickets if he wished, and still have millions left in interest alone

It’s garbage and we can

Did the RFL bail them out?

You should never reward financial stupidity that achieves on field success

Albi is a cracking town and our game experience there in 2018 was far better than any in Toulouse, far bigger crowd also.

Cash is the difficulty, with it we can have a FT second tier capable of stepping up/down and qualified by Results, Facilities and finance. We can have a third tier from which clubs can move up based on those 3 pillars after winning the right. NONE can happen without CASH

Everything is under pinned by TV income - will a “new” RFL be able to secure the £35+ million deal needed or will France secure a deal to lighten the load. once the money is in the bag we can look at other things. The NRL having input would be brilliant for securing the best deals and working to make the international game truly attractive

Mazey’s connection with Swinton was an interesting one, his uncle is Bill Davies - any long standing Swinton fan will know him. He had a realism that Swinton wasn’t going to flourish at Sale with a Swinton name and was dependent on external money to survive. Hopefully his business’s thrive and he can return home one day

Well done Hull, Asiata and Sezer ran the show

The known facts are that SL owners put a lot of their own money in

Opinions and reality are very different. Facts are reality.

Ill say it again - letting folk in for Free sees you being the next Salford, putting £25 on the ST price to include this doesnt but what if you are drawn away on a Friday night ?

I have no idea who is best, nor do any of us, but accept those with most to lose will make the correct call with a democratic (shareholder based) vote when they believe the time is right (July isnt it). Ex drug addicts are often employed to talk on the impact of addiction.

Every owner should immediately say ''no more financial input'' and let the enlightened take over ownership of the clubs. Eventually folk living in the land of Cuckoo's will grasp that it is the owners who should be deciding what the structures, strategies and objectives are - not some paid folk with limited commercial experience and no personal financial loss if they get it wrong.

Its been the best week in my memory, anybody who cant see that needs to give their heads a right wobble. Change reactions by the masses rarely move from the model - they always start with rejection/negativity.

That bit does need clarity