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  1. I think one of the main benefits is it gives us visibility. A normal round of games doesn't do that. Sky seem like it as well, though hard to quantify any impact on TV contract. Also, not sure if the host pays a fee? I know I've seen estimates of it bringing a few million to the local economy, so it's certainly possible.
  2. I agree with that, though it is quite common companies have people from finance backgrounds in the top role. One thing I'd note is Wood had to cope with a reduction in funding from the government. I'm sure his detractors would argue it was his responsibility to secure that funding, that's true to an extent but they reduced funding to sport overall so it would have been difficult to maintain funding. That reduction in funding made some cuts necessary, which was always going to make him unpopular - I'm not sure there was an alternative to cutting a large amount of development officers.
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    How clubs fiddle attendance figures

    It's a rumour, but I'd suggest internet forums without rumours would be much more boring.
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    How clubs fiddle attendance figures

    I don't think it's that outrageous a claim. I've heard before of clubs having more people in than the official figure. He's referring to 20+ years ago, and things have been tightened up since then. You shouldn't have to give names for everything on an internet forum, for personal privacy & to avoid implicating people. I'd consider sharing my experience of borderline criminal behaviour in my work on here, but I'd stop short of giving names because I wouldn't want to risk the hassle for anyone. That lack of detail may make you doubt it, but it doesn't mean anyone has failed by not providing.
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    How clubs fiddle attendance figures

    It's in part because their season tickets are so cheap, especially by standards of London teams. Many people bought who are either casual fans or don't even support them, so they go to see the big games and skip the rest. Added to that some fans are unhappy with the new stadium.
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    How clubs fiddle attendance figures

    Yeah a bit of a false scandal, everyone knows it's tickets sold and the reasons are pretty obvious - accuracy, ease, sponsorship and to avoid introducing ticket exchanges. The Man Utd stat of 98% of tickets sold attending is almost certainly wrong. In 5 years of tracking those figures we only had 1 game that high.
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    “Not good enough for Super League”

    Alright. I'm just speaking from my experience - if we had errors at Old Trafford 2 years ago, I'd be surprised if the AJ Bell are significantly better than that now. The software used by most stadiums for this is very old, there's little demand/need to improve it. The AI might be there, but it would cost money and provide little benefit. We used to use the scanned data to target people for Season Ticket renewals, but there is little value in knowing the total figure alone. Much more important is the revenue, which you can measure to the penny. I'm not anti-Toronto, I've argued on their side on attendance. I just think these discussions on real vs announced attendances are missing the point.
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    “Not good enough for Super League”

    There could be comps or more likely they had just restricted the sections for sale, so 'almost sold out' doesn't mean they have sold the capacity. It was part of my job at a football club for years to try and analyse those figures....you get a count from the scanning but we knew it wasn't fully accurate based on some simple testing (there's a number of reasons tech and human error). That was at one of the biggest football clubs in the world, at Salford I'd expect the tech is worse and likely people pay less attention to the figures due to limited resources.
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    “Not good enough for Super League”

    All sport teams report attendances as tickets sold, mainly because they don't have an accurate figure of the number in the ground (and it also helps that the tickets sold will always be higher). However, you do end up with situations like this where people have bought a ticket (typically a Season Ticket) and don't turn up. It's common in sports - every year the papers will do a couple of articles on the empty seats at Manchester United or Arsenal for cup games. A large amount of people appear to be ignorant about the way attendances are reported and reasons why, including in the media.
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    “Not good enough for Super League”

    Not really. They still have a weaker squad than those teams and as far as I know the salary spend isn't public. It's odd some people seem to act as if Toronto were planning on keeping this squad if they get promoted. It's obvious they would make some significant changes, playing in Super League will help them attract better players too.
  11. They're the opposite of mercenaries
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    1 hour Wolfpack discussion panel

    No. Are they 'below' praise though?
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    Bulls struggling again?

    Sure, that was just in response to Bradford being bold in pricing the same as super league teams.
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    Bulls struggling again?

    I don't think that's comparing like with like though. You'd struggle to find a ST for double that in the premier league, aside from Man City's £299 which is a marketing ploy and a very limited amount of tickets. These prices make Bradford similar to a League 1/2 football team, which is about right. I'd say it's more a sign of Warrington being timid than Bradford bold.
  15. That's sad if they are directing it at regular Toronto fans too. I agree the opinion of Toulouse has shifted as a result of Toronto. Although at the moment my prediction would be for both of them to be in the Million Pound game.