Denton Rovers RLFC

Thank you to FlyingKing for the updates on the game, have been playing board games with the grand kids this arvo so haven't managed to listen or keep an eye out on this game. The result really does put the cat amongst the pigeons, IF London beat Fax and score a hat-full with KR slipping up this evening and next w/e then London could go up automatically. However that also applies to Toronto too. Every game at the moment matters and both Halifax and Widnes have and still could have a big influence on what happens. As I said in the KR/Toulouse thread, six teams could all end up on 8 points with only pts diff deciding things. KR win tonight and that steadies their ship and puts them top. Despite losing Salford are short odds t go up with their big pts diff and Leeds will be looking to seal their place by beating Fax tomorrow. lose and they are under a bit of pressure just like KR are tonight. Well done to London! Next season is going to be so poor by comparison without the M8s!

You said Toulouse were finished, you were wrong, currently as it stands they aren't finished they are still in the hunt. Will they make the MPG, maybe not, but you saying they are done when they clearly aren't is just silly.

looks like Widnes based club West Bank have been an absolute shower with thuggery on the pitch and 'supporters' attacking away fans. Hopefully the club does not get accepted for the 2019 season, absolute disgrace! https://www.wigantoday.net/sport/more-sport/amateur-outfit-kicked-out-of-league-after-disgraceful-scenes-against-wigan-club-1-9357029

You had 7 out from your 1st XVII selection last week (despite you saying you wouldn't rest any), will you rotate different players or keep the same ones out? Think Saints by 6

Cas by a lot, 38-18

What a load of tripe, you don't know how games would work out with x, y or z player, simple fact is you could say that of any game over the history of any team sport that the result would be different with differing personnel playing ... or maybe it wouldn't, just just cannot know, what if x, y, z player got injured in the first few minutes, or sent off. They weren't playing so guessing based on hypotheticals is patently just pointless nonsense.

It does go both ways, players are humans too and subject to human error, things said or done in the heat of the moment, maybe too many people forget that fact? An obviously wrong call against a player or team is bound to infuriate players/coaches/fans, you try to shut off from it and take it, when it happens numerous times in a game whilst not acceptable it should be recognised that on occasion humans will make an error of judgement and say something they regret. If we are to offer up that leeway for the officials seeing as they are humans subject to human error, why is same not being offered for the players in these particular circumstances? Or is integrity and human error only being judged on one group, surely that would be discriminatory and ignores the human factor in what is both a physically and mentally demanding sport?

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Salford to win but a London win and it's all on big time for the last round.

Widnes to step up and give Toronto fans twitchy bum time.

C'mon Fax, put the cat amongst the pigeons

Condolences. Having seen my auntie slowly die of cancer and my nan slowly die from MRSA I feel your pain, it's a sort of selfish relief that they have finally gone and not suffering anymore and you not having to see them slowly ebb away, don't feel guilty, it does not diminish your love and loyalty one iota. My nan wasn't lucid for quite a long time but I'd spent a good while chatting with her when she was in hospital, It was a 350 mile round trip and I used to feel sick and anxious all the way up and come home feeling desperately sad. I'm glad you found your peace with your mum.

Er, Toulouse, London and Toronto can all overhaul KR and whinos, in act no-one is mathematically through to SL yet. If Toulouse, London, Halifax and Widnes win, it's all in the air and down to the last weekend, if Widnes, Toronto, Toulouse and London win the final round of games that would leave the top 6 teams all on 8 points and pts diff the first deciding factor as to placings. Unlikely I know but it's far from over. Still think KR will win by 12+ but it's important that IF TO do lose they keep it as tight as possible, London are likely to lose to Salford but have Halifax in the last game which they'll ancy to win and it's an absolute must they do. Toronto are far from out the woods also, if they lose both their remaining matches and even if they only lose by 4 points in each game Toulouse only need win one game and have an aggregate + 13 pts scored and they go through to the MPG in 4th, if London wins one game and has a +15 pts diff in those two matches they also jump Toronto and go into the MPG against TO. That would be mental and whilst unexpected it really is not out of the realms of possibility. It's really exciting, every minute so far has mattered, even against Halifax as they have as much say in the final outcome as any of the clubs. And yet the clubs/RFL want to get rid of this...##### idiots!

Hull by 40, this should be a doddle what with Radford having geed the boys up after last weeks thrashing.

I've got bog standard slimline Seiko that I've had for coming up to 20 years, replaced one that was stolen in a break in. Love it, simple and unfussy, keeps good time and is the right size and really comfortable that I barely know it's there. Cost me £175 in early 2000 from a local family jeweller and they also offered free batteries for life, despite the fact they closed the local branch down I cycle over to their next nearest premises which are 16 miles away. You can take the lad out of Yorkshire but you can't take the Yorkshire out of the lad😅 I always thought about getting a 'dress' watch but honestly I just like something simple that doesn't shout I'm trying to impress and that I can wear all the time without fear of damage/losing it etc. I remember my first digital in the 70s, the one with the red plastic face and you pressed the button to flash the time up, that was the only decent thing my father ever gave me.

Shouldn't that be the other way around, why should the vulnerable change their behaviour so that people in big lumps of metal and plastic can go at whatever speed they like, whenever they like and everyone else has to get out the way or be more wary of? If drivers actually drove at slower speeds everywhere and thought more about and indeed respected other people's right to get where they are going and respect their safety (which you re lawfully bound to) then something like owning a quiet car is never going to be an issue. As it is the tyre noise is usually enough but I hate the fact that so many people make out that it's everyone else that has to change to take into account how those who are in killing machines go about their business. I've thought about getting one but they are ridiculously heavy and hence do not have a decent range unless you buy something that are inordinately expensive or pay an even larger sum of money for the 'big' battery or even heavier hybrid types. A Nissan Leaf for example is heavier than my '01 Passat Estate, it's not just the batteries either. My old MKII Astra weighed 880kg, even the BMW i3 which is a tiny thing is 1260kg in its 60Kw/h variant. It's the weight (and of course aerodynamics) that kill the range on EVs

As a keen cyclist I get this behaviour and worse multiple times every day, we call it MGIF, must get in front. It never 'saves' them any time, but what it does do is make you feel uncomfortable at best, at worst it can be damn scary/feel fear of harm and in some cases actually ends up with you being physically hurt or worse. It gets to the point where quite a few simply give up cycling (both for utility and leisure) because of it, it's also one of the reasons why people on bikes take to the footway/footpaths as well as react after the umpteenth time of someone cutting you up. And yes every time someone is rude, man or woman I'll say something, people will go through life thinking their actions are acceptable to the majority or are too selfish to give a stuff about anyone except themselves. This summer there was a guy who turned turned into the road that runs right next to the local park at speed, if there had been children/family walking along the road (it does often especially during the warmer months) he would have wiped them out. So I shouted to him to slow down, he brakes abruptly and gets out, properly snarling, and begins to threaten to kill me and find out where I live blah blah blah. His partner gets out and says "don't" and intimates he's a proper nutjob, I'd gathered that already. His mocking and threatening tone, his prison tats, I just told him he won't do poop, he's all mouth. He didn't come up to me and there's no way I would stand down to bully's like that, particularly not oxygen-wasters that can and do end up killing people through their own selfish actions. I even said to him, what if that was your kid walking back from the park and you were driving like that around the bend, he wouldn't have any of it. So he left after saying the town was small and he'd find me. I was thinking well you don't need to find me, I'm already here. There's rarely justice in the world and people like that should be eradicated for the safety of society., not quite the same as being pushed on the bus I guess

That was because Hill had forced his arm directly into Miloudi's mouth suffocating him, Hill the grubby w@@@@r was still mouthing off in his interview about it, he should have copped a ban himself for his actions. That said there's no room in the game for biting, however it should not be treated any worse than a deliberate act to hurt a profeessional. A deliberate punch/swinging arm/twisted leg/gouging/chicken wing/crusher etc. should always get more IMHO, the intent is similar (though someone biting is usually a reactionary thing*) but the damage done is far worse than a bite. *Tyson after being headbutted a dozen times by Holyfield is a prime example.

How typical of the NRL, in many ways they are just as insular as your atypical chippy Northerner. They are not just hindering the international scene they are hindering RL as a whole, selfish barstewards.

Surely the RL disciplinary need to prove the intent of the question, not he prove his innocence?

What a pity the idiots at the RFL couldn't have registered the 'Rugby World Cup' as a trademark and have ownership of it, trying to claim ownership of a play-off system shows you what a bunch of mentally challenged lot they are😒

But then doesn't that give the opportunity for those Ch. teams to play a set of fixtures against the poorer SL clubs AND the top Ch sides not just in a one off but over a mini leagues worth of games where almost every game does matter as we are seeing now? They have the opportunity to match those sides and really test themselves, however I think I'd like to see a 12 point start for the Ch. sides against the SL teams, quite literally to have say 12 points up on the board at the start of a game as this gives a nod toward the salary cap differential. This re-balances things in the Ch. teams favour would it not? lf they can't do it against the top ch. sides and SL rabble with a head start then just like other straight up promoted teams who have the same SC more often than not they get found out straight away. It's not necessarily the players but the coaching team and whole ethos of playing at the next level. I just think the new system is going to generate many more matches that have little to no meaning to them, both in SL and in the Ch.

I loved Randall as a fielder, just remember him in the covers pouncing on everything, some cracking catches and run-outs not to mention his infectious enthusiasm. Not a bad batter either when boycs wasn't running him out!

KR by 6 but want London to win

How many did Saints have out, 6/7? Radford was laying into the players again, he's an utter c@@@womble. also blaming the Hull daily mail for speculating on who the club are signing as he reckons this is costing the club season pass sales, he truly is an idiot! Sooner we get rid, the better the club will be, I'd have Peter Gentle back in a heartbeat but he won't touch the club after Pearson sacked him for getting us to the play-offs and Wembley after taking over from the shambles of the Agar years.