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  1. gandalf

    At the crossroads

    25 years and counting since we left Swinton and little sign of s return. Lots of talk from various regimes since but that's all it's ever been. Still more talk now.. My own personal opinion is we should accept we won't return and build the club in that knowledge. I am attached to Swinton RLFC and not necessarily the town. I would prefer them there of course but it's not a deal breaker. I was driving past the White Lion yesterday and reflecting on this. The pits have gone, little amateur rugby in the area, no town centre as such, no community spirit. WTF is there to come back to in reality? Are there really thousands of dormant Swinton fans desperate for our return ? I don't remember great crowds in the last days of Station Rd. The club is caught in a catch 22. Admit we won't return and lose the 'Swinton or nothing' supporters or continue the 'we will return ' mantra which will make it difficult to attract new fans. The free entry for the Toulouse game was a case in point. Good idea but who was it aimed at? Were we trying to attract new people from the Sale area. What for? To say 'welcome, come join us' but by the way our long term plan is to shaft you and move back to Swinton.. It makes little business sense. We do need our own ground or at least a stake in one somewhere. A ground allows us to generate money. Personally I like the Sale area and would stay put. The area already has a rugby background (albeit RU) but strangely people can and do watch both as I do. My point is we need a coherent strategy. Call a fans meeting even and let's all be honest and truthful (fans as well) as to where we are heading. This club can be successful and retain its history. But that doesn't mean living in the past or kidding ourselves about the future. Sorry to ramble on..
  2. gandalf

    Oops - the history makers

    I notice the spin on our website. Another historic chapter in our glittering history. Ignoring the fact we shipped over 60 points again. Toronto are a super league team in everything but name so the result was expected. But please Swinton don't treat us as idiots. I'm sure the delusiionals on twitter will be out in force again though. I do think the club is run better than it has been for a long time but unfortunately we can't deliver a decent team at this level. Ok so we are relegated this season - I hope the club are planning how we survive next year. Chalk this season off and move on.
  3. gandalf

    Toulouse game

    Shame we couldn't have put up a better fight. Maybe the free entry will have created a new generation of Toulouse fans or a smaller number of masochistic Lions fans. Lol. Seriously though it was a great idea.
  4. gandalf

    no help from RFL

    They couldn't give a s**t. Probably celebrate the demise of clubs like ours.
  5. gandalf

    Oops - the history makers

    Well disappointingly I may be right about not winning a game this season after the Sheffield result. It's so depressing. There is just nothing positive to say about the club at the moment..oh wait our shirts look good.
  6. gandalf

    Featherstone rovers

    I wouldn't normally comment on other clubs sites but as a Swinton fan I feel your pain. We're both in the s**t both financially and on the playing front. Bloody grim is what it is. We've still got clubs to support so that's something. I'm just waiting for a rugby mad Arab sheikh to invest..
  7. gandalf

    Littler out?

    Yes it was. Not many teams get anything up there so really positive result. If only we could have got one point more...I'm greedy. Hopefully things are on the up. ☺
  8. gandalf

    Littler out?

    The I always thought Rugby League was a family and we looked out for each other. Not any more. I started to change my view when the RFL and everyone else stood by and watched Bramley disappear. Writing was on the wall for the rest of us...
  9. gandalf

    Littler out?

    Agreed. Superleague does nothing for the game except concentrate the resources into fewer and fewer clubs. They even turn on their own - I'm sure they would love to jettison the likes of Salford, Wakefield and Widnes to be replaced by Toronto, New York and which ever other ridiculous club they come up with. The game is dying imo. If Swinton or any other traditional go under then we will be lucky to get half a page in in the league express. No one gives a s**t about us or the health of the game
  10. gandalf

    Swinton v Leigh

    People don't use this site much. All on twitter. I do cos I'm depressed by our team and this page is the equivalent of a padded cell mixed with solitary confinement. Congrats on the Leigh win though it was a predictable result. Wonder who we can beat. Role on next season and some competitive games in Championship 1.
  11. gandalf

    Littler out?

    The real wasted years were those at Gigg lane. We had money but chose to concentrate on some pie in the sky stuff. With effort then we could have been back home in the nineties.
  12. gandalf

    Littler out?

    I won't vote as i wouldnt say Stuart is to blame for our woes or the current board. We've no money is the bottom line. We can't and shouldn't spend what we haven't got. I fear continuing reduction in resources especially as relegation is imminent. We will find our natural level but we sure ain't going to like it... The only way to arrest the decline is to have our own ground. 25 years on and I'm still hearing the same stuff although at least I know our current board are trying. Previously it was all ###### - decades of it..we own the European ###### mountain. If only we could get a subsidy from the EU pre Brexit... I think it's all too little too late though.
  13. gandalf

    Oops - the history makers

    So difficult to find the positives after that. We are still here I guess and I hope all the players are still giving it their all.
  14. gandalf

    Oops - the history makers

    After defeat to York it's quite possible we may not win a single game this season. Very depressing. I hope to goodness I'm wrong.
  15. gandalf

    Lions v Wolfpack

    I think all we can ask of our team at the moment is they work hard for the full 80 mins. There is a big gap in quality between ourselves and most of the rest of the division. With time players can be coached to be better but time isn:t on our side.