RobLambert

Who do you think we were resting just out of interest ?

Lingaro I'm glad you said this. I spent the whole game getting increasingly annoyed at this situation. I'm no fan of Joey but he is never given the ball in any space. Briscoe works tirelessly but if I was him I'd leave the club. It beggars belief that McD does not see our wasted potential. 60 + points today and it was a mess. Everything from individual bits of skill from the likes of Hall,Smith and of course Jones who was a class apart - but little team work. Add that to the usual defence where we seem to let players with the biggest waste-line waddle over and I just can't see what McD can take from it......

You beat me to it

Absolutely but given the 70 nil scoreline last time surely it highlights yet again our deterioration more than any improvement from Widnes.

Not sure where to start with that..... Probably started with the Rowley era. Didnt like him or some of his players at that time. Going overboard celebrating their opponents mistakes etc. (Seen much of the same under Lam actually) Beaumont - say no more Bending the rules as far as possible. Still cant believe they got away with the 2018 shield debacle. Apparently having no money to put a team out then miraculously challenging again in 2019. Being gifted the 2021 SL place. At the time many said that we didnt actually want it. Poison Chalice and all that. I don't go along with that. I think the position they are in now has a lot to do with that decision The supporters. We get so much stick about a small minority of our younger supporters but some of the Leigh fans take same beating. Especially that big fat pudding that brings a mini bus. What a vile piece of work he is. Admittedly some envious reasons as well. I mean we used to win the League for fun until promotion was first mentioned in 2014 then Leigh woke up. They've been the bane of our lives since then. Injuries. As usual we've had our share this year and doesnt it always seem to be key players ? Seriously Ive watched Fev for 40+ years and I cant even comprehend a season where injuries have not had a significant impact. Leigh somehow carry on regardless So overall maybe some reasons are childish but aren't they the same unjustified reasons that want us to see Cas lose every week ? Anyway I reserve my right to throw my teddy out of the cot.

We're not great with injury updates but seriously ?......

I dislike Leigh for many reasons and hope they lose every game next year but I think you are way off with this. They'd stuff Wakey at the minute thats for sure. Do you know Chris Green has barely played this year ?

I"m seriously starting to believe thats not the case Robin. Not at this level anyway. We'll see.

I keep hearing about the spirit of 83 but we have to be realistic. We had a coach,team spirit and 15 players that put their neck on the line.

I despair. Ffs McD doesnt even use 4 subs. He must be worth a spot. Give him 2 15 minute bursts and tell him to break a few ribs.

What's the record low crowd ? Sunday must beat it.....

If only we could forfeit. Definitely would be the best outcome.

Relative to expectations though. Hope : despair ratio.

Which other team matters ?

On holiday but I could have written the match report yesterday. Generally sh*t. Mandatory 20 odd points conceded. Joey a waste of space. McDona!d still a liability. Injuries galore. Most disappointing and depressing season I can recall.

Yeah those comments he made after the game on sky - showed that he cared - I dont think players would be allowed to get away with it now (although too busy telling us what 'we talked about during the week') Good to hear he's still taking an interest in us. Also good to hear the comments above which I totally agree with - not forgetting he had great pace for a big bloke as well. When we signed him from Hull it was nearing the end of the 94 season and he had been named in the World team of the year. Quite a signing then. Come to think of it the next signing we made with a global reputation to match that was 28 years on when we signed.....Joey

Some good news at last. Maybe someone has told him that Hardcastle is fit again.

Not wanting to start a heated debate but when you say you are not a fan of some of the people running the RFL - why is that ? Anything(s) in particular that have happened ?

McDermott probably made him play through the injury. What with his 3 sub rule....

I'm sure Bo (or Luke's) stunt double there is Radio 1's Gary Davis. Isn't Louis Sheriff P Coltane still on the books ? Lachlan Cooter would be a great signing as well. I'll stop now.

Gutted about recent developments. Just watching the Scottish Open and Bo Hoag missed a putt. Next I hear that Tom may not be joining Luke and Uncle Jesse Lefeo. Ok Leilua's shorts are tighter than Daisy's but nobody wants to see that.

Not disputing any of that. What I meant was that the biggest gap is / should be between us (Fev and Leigh) and the rest....

Therein lies the problem. We shouldn't be looking over our shoulder at the opposition for 2nd spot. It may be the reality of where we are but if thats the case we'll never achieve our goal this season. Ourselves and Leigh should be streets ahead of the rest given the money we must have spent.

Every point bang on. I would just add on out-enthused and dire kicking game..

Coolie I think you are losing your touch........I think there's some truth in this.......