Mon 27th Jun: Ch: Barrow Raiders v Halifax Panthers KO 19:45 (Premier Sports)

[tec]

14 hours ago, dkw said:

No there isn't, there's no difference at all, because unless the offending player is a genius Doctor able to diagnose an injury by just looking at the player in the ground they will never know the extent of an injury.

The disciplinary can't let him off because the injured player wasn't harmed by his actions. 

Agree with you DKW both Fax players are going to get lengthy bans and rightly so. Some Fax fans seem obsessed with it. I wouldn’t be surprised if Yorkshire  TV make a documentary highlighting the injustice of it all.

[The Blues Ox]

14 hours ago, dkw said:

No there isn't, there's no difference at all, because unless the offending player is a genius Doctor able to diagnose an injury by just looking at the player in the ground they will never know the extent of an injury.

The disciplinary can't let him off because the injured player wasn't harmed by his actions. 

What are you going to do about cramp? You see where I am going with this, where do you draw the line. You can say I am not using common sense but how would any player unless they are a genius doctor know the difference between cramp and a torn say calf muscle that could actually do more damage by been stretched off? FWIW as I have said many times on the thread if someone is prone with a possible head/neck/spine injury then if our player lifted them they should be looking at a lengthy ban. As it is Titus would have been better waiting for Miloudi to come back on the field and just straight out stuck the nut on him and would be banned for less games.

On the flip side it does look like Titus has been dropped this week because of his actions.

[The Blues Ox]

14 minutes ago, tec said:

Agree with you DKW both Fax players are going to get lengthy bans and rightly so. Some Fax fans seem obsessed with it. I wouldn’t be surprised if Yorkshire  TV make a documentary highlighting the injustice of it all.

I can't speak for others but its the fact that the ref did not blow his whistle, and had no intention to, for the attacks on Worthington's head which if he did, and he had plenty of time to do it, would have meant us not losing two of our best players for a combined nearly half of the season. The original perpitrator only getting a one match ban for creating the whole incident just typifies the whole RL judiciary system for me.

[tec]

1 minute ago, The Blues Ox said:

I can't speak for others but its the fact that the ref did not blow his whistle, and had no intention to, for the attacks on Worthington's head which if he did, and he had plenty of time to do it, would have meant us not losing two of our best players for a combined nearly half of the season. The original perpitrator only getting a one match ban for creating the whole incident just typifies the whole RL judiciary system for me.

 I agree with Miloudi receiving a ban he did rub his head in Worthington head that’s not in dispute. The reaction from Worthington was a sending off and he will receive a long ban along with the player picking miloudi off the floor. The players know the rules and they won’t and can’t be changed because of provocation. 
Focus on how well Fax played in the game a good attacking team who on that showing are coming good at the right part of the season.

[Phil]

So the judiciary agree there was a head butt unlike some on here.

A quick count will show a gap of 6 seconds between Miloudi’s initial high contact on Worthington before the ref finally blew his whistle. That’s unacceptable 

[dkw]

1 hour ago, The Blues Ox said:

What are you going to do about cramp? You see where I am going with this,

Yeah, I see exactly where your going with it, which is why I'm done with it.

[The Blues Ox]

5 hours ago, dkw said:

Yeah, I see exactly where your going with it, which is why I'm done with it.

That was the response I expected and although my previous post was verging on ridiculous and stupid the question still remains the same, where do you draw the line? You can't have a one ban fits all for every incident. In this incident there is very little chance that the player has neck or spinal damage and worse case is likely to be concussion in which case moving a player with concussion will cause little if any further damage.

[SJD]

I've been struggling for the past few weeks to get an appointment with my GP, just wondering if you could help with a diagnosis.  

[dkw]

20 minutes ago, The Blues Ox said:

That was the response I expected and although my previous post was verging on ridiculous and stupid the question still remains the same, where do you draw the line? You can't have a one ban fits all for every incident. In this incident there is very little chance that the player has neck or spinal damage and worse case is likely to be concussion in which case moving a player with concussion will cause little if any further damage.

A single punch can kill someone, cause severe brain damage, all kinds of other things. Concussion us not worst case at all. 

That's why there's a rule for players to be punished should they do what the halifax player did.

This is ridiculous.

[dkw]

17 minutes ago, SJD said:

I've been struggling for the past few weeks to get an appointment with my GP, just wondering if you could help with a diagnosis.  

Just send him a photo of it, unless it is, you know....your little fella...

[The Blues Ox]

2 hours ago, dkw said:

A single punch can kill someone, cause severe brain damage, all kinds of other things. Concussion us not worst case at all. 

Now its your turn to get silly with your comparisons.

[ShropshireBull]

Ban for picking up player is clearly established. Miloudi only getting one for a headbutt is a joke. How is a headbutt less violent than punching someone? Should be same as player who reacted.  

Regardless he is a liability that Barrow need to think twice about having. 

[JonM]

10 hours ago, ShropshireBull said:

Ban for picking up player is clearly established. Miloudi only getting one for a headbutt is a joke. How is a headbutt less violent than punching someone? Should be same as player who reacted.  

Exactly. Just bizarre that someone, particularly someone with the track record for violent play that Miloudi has, can headbutt a player and get a one match ban for it.

[JonM]

Miloudi's regular practice of feigning injury really ought to lead to a 'other contrary behaviour' charge because maybe one day he genuinely will be injured and someone will pick him up or retaliate while he's down on the ground. Difficult to prove I suppose.