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#21 eddo

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 12:57 AM

Holy jesus have you been in a deep sleep for the past 30 years !

#22 GazCoops

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 01:24 AM

There is no way there was 17.7k at Hull, we had 16.2 against Leeds the other week and there was no way there was only 1.5k more there on Sat, personally I would say 19.5k is closer to the mark. Its a shame Hull was holding the freedom festival on the same day as the match, I think that has stopped it from been a sell out but still 17.7k seems to be a mistake imo.

As some people said there seems to be some confusion with the Wigan vs Leeds attendance too.

Apparently all the money from gate reciepts goes to the RFL and it is shared out between all 8 clubs, I think some clubs are telling porkies to keep a few bob to themselfs.

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#23 no13benny

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 09:54 AM

There looked like a lot more than the crowds stated for Wigan Leeds & Hull Hull KR - definately, even Saints there could have been a couple thousand more. The RFL should look into this as the clubs could be shafting the system.
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#24 Maximus Decimus

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 05:56 PM

QUOTE (Allan Marsden @ Sep 13 2010, 12:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
People won't pay because they do not care about the play offs. The season ended when the league ended.

The Challenge Cup is struggling similarly

So you have to ask is RL heading in the right direction? Are the RFL capable of marketing the sport / driving it forward or are two finals all we can manage?

We had a sport where we were able to attract several / many large crowds, walk up pay on the day attenders. The RFL/SKY then told us Summer rugby, a salary cap, a play off system, a franchising system would lead to a boom in RL. Where the RFL / SKY wrong?


You're living in a dream world.

Are you seriously suggesting that 5,000 people in Leeds are more interested in watching them in Super League against the Crusaders than play Wigan in the Challenge Cup? It's all about season tickets and just because it doesn't fit your argument you ignore it. People pay out at the beginning of the season and then it is effectively free to go for around 10,000 fans. When you hit knock out competitions there are 10,000 people who now have to pay. Inevitably there will be people who cannot afford it and choose not to because it's on TV. They also often take people to games. If you're argument made any sense then the Challenge Cup attendances wouldn't have gone up massively when season tickets were allowed but they did.

You've also ignored how I pointed out the viewing figures go up by around 33% during the playoffs.

You've also ignored how I pointed out that the last time we didn't have a playoffs we had lower crowds than we do now. We didn't have several large crowds that you point out. Even in 1990 the average of the league was lower than it is now. You say we've always attended finals, well the last Premiership was dying and was finally attended by 33,000 at Old Trafford. The first Grand Final got 43,000 just 2 years later, it quickly rose to sell out because people do care.

Just because you don't like the playoffs doesn't mean that you are in any way in the majority. Just because you keep repeating it on numerous threads doesn't make it true either. You can't simply ignore the facts.

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 06:01 PM

QUOTE (Maximus Decimus @ Sep 13 2010, 12:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hull KR-Wigan (9,007) regular season 2009. Sky 174k
Hull KR-Wigan (8,162) first round playoffs 2009. Sky 224k

Saints-Wigan regular season 2009 (15,563). Sky 218k
Saints-Wigan (13,087) playoff semi-final. Sky 296k.

Why are these viewing figures way higher if people aren't supporting the concept?

Crowds are lower because take today's Wigan game, they have already sold 10,000 tickets before the regular season game kicks off. Today they are starting from scratch and sad as it is, people don't want to pay.


The viewing figures show that the play offs are better supported on thw whole but its a shame the fans don't get off their sofas and out of the bars till the final.

As a Wire fan to potentially watch all our play off games (including the final it could cost me 100 pound in tickets alone) a small fortune when you add beer money and travel.



#26 Maximus Decimus

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 06:07 PM

QUOTE (Wendall @ Sep 13 2010, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The viewing figures show that the play offs are better supported on thw whole but its a shame the fans don't get off their sofas and out of the bars till the final.

As a Wire fan to potentially watch all our play off games (including the final it could cost me 100 pound in tickets alone) a small fortune when you add beer money and travel.


It is but it's something that we're going to have to accept. If you have 10,000 ST holders and they aren't included then the only way is down regarding how many of them will turn up.

#27 Allan Marsden

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 06:09 PM

Why did fans turn up in the past and pay on the day. Was it magic ohmy.gif

#28 Maximus Decimus

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 06:10 PM

QUOTE (Allan Marsden @ Sep 13 2010, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why did fans turn up in the past and pay on the day. Was it magic ohmy.gif


Did they?

Because if you look at the facts they used to attend in less numbers than they do now for the regular season games despite everything resting on the League table.




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