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#3095483 Stadium Updates thread

Posted by DoubleD on 26 March 2015 - 02:47 PM

I said "some" Leeds fans.

I don't like the view from that terrace so I don't go anymore. I could go somewhere else in the ground, but I go to games to be with the fans from my club as well. It's part of the experience.

Will I be missed? No, probably not. I'm not trying to be a one man crusade. I just think it's sad that some people's attitudes to this are "tough" rather than thinking there could be a solution. I'm not expecting people on here to find the solution, just accept that one should be sought in the future. "Tough" and "don't go then" basically tell me they aren't bothered. Cas are looking for solutions that cater for everyone. As are Wakefield. As are Rovers (in part have found one with the new stand but still charge double to Hull fans to use that poor excuse of a stand). But apparently Leeds don't have to even try because "there's nothing they can do". No, there's nothing they can do about that one option of redeveloping that stand, so look at other solutions.

If they don't care enough about it, that's their prerogative. But you can surely understand why I would choose not to attend there anymore based on that.


Wellsy, hopefully I can clear this up for you. Leeds cannot get planning permission to develop the Western Terrace because it obstructs 3 houses behind. I understand Leeds are looking into purchasing those houses to enable this to be an option in future.


Leeds wanted to develop the South Stand but again the planning department rejected the original design for being obtrusive on the surrounding area. I find this rather hard to believe considering the big green monstrosity the cricket ground built but I suppose it's all about who you know. The revised design that the planning department proposed was reviewed by the Rhinos and they decided it wasn't financially worthwhile to do. I believe they will wait for a change of personnel in the council before looking at this option again.


Therefore, Leeds have desperately being trying to develop the North Stand which ajoins the cricket ground. Unfortunately, YCCC are penniless as they lost £700k on bidding and hosting an India vs Pakistan test match a few years ago which did not attract fans as predicted. YCCC have now agreed to do something with the North Stand and look like they can secure funding to do so in these less financially prohibitive times so this will go ahead in the next few years. As has previously been mentioned, this is required to be completed before they next host the ashes.


I hope the above will show you that Leeds are not simply sitting idly and ignoring fans wishes to upgrade the facilities but there are obstacles in their way and they have to be financially prudent in how they develop the ground to the best of its ability. I'm sorry if you feel that you are treated unfairly as an away fan. I'd like to remind you that it doesn't always rain or snow in Leeds and you'd be most welcome to join me in either the North, South or Carnegie Stand and I'd even buy you a beer. I can't promise our team would be so generous on the pitch to your Ull though :)

#3079429 26 Feb: Leeds Rhinos v Huddersfield Giants KO 8pm (TV)

Posted by DoubleD on 26 February 2015 - 11:52 PM

I enjoyed the game and thought Bentham had a good performance. The odd thing that was wrong but nothing to change the course of the outcome. Thought Leeds were poor after the first 25 minutes, they should've wrapped it up but lost their focus. Huddersfield came back well though to be fair and should have won it themselves.


Whilst i like McDermott and think he speaks a lot of sense, i thought his post match interview was tosh. Both teams were trying all they could to slow down the play the ball, probably Leeds more than Huddersfield when they got on a roll in the 2nd half. Peacock got penalised at least twice for flopping.


Although i enjoyed the game, it wasn't a high quality one. Too many poor errors and needless penalties - should've taken note of how South Sydney played

#3079251 The latest DR twist

Posted by DoubleD on 26 February 2015 - 07:21 PM

Why can the SL clubs not make a call on these youngsters? Do they want them or not?

This attitude of we'll farm them out and see if they develop into a player we want in a few years time, has only one beneficiary, the SL club. As you say, it's a mechanism used to ensure their place at the top of the pile.

I would like to see an end to DR. SL clubs should not be allowed to stockpile young lads who show potential. If they develop into SL players through the efforts of a Championship club, a transfer fee should be payable if they want them back. Otherwise sort out a reserve or age group league to play and develop them in themselves.


Don't you think the player's might have a say in this, in that they might want to stay at the Super League club in the hope of getting into the first team?


You're forgetting the Championship clubs are in the main part time not full time like Super League clubs so where will these DR players train for the rest of the time? The Championship clubs don't have to accept them and are perfectly entitled to setup their own youth developments (like Sheffield, Fev) to prevent requiring these DR player but most the Championship clubs don't want to pay for this

#3071093 12 Feb: Salford Red Devils v St Helens KO 8pm (TV)

Posted by DoubleD on 13 February 2015 - 12:05 AM

I feel for the good Dr. He's put a lot of money into that team and they turn up with that - it was pathetic and embarrassing at times. It looked like they hardly knew each other and a number looked overweight and unfit - what have they done all pre-season? I think Harris is serious trouble................very few players can come out of that performance with any credit but it really did look like a team of individuals and not a team. Yes it takes time to gel but a lot of those players have been there for at least 6 months and it didn't look like they had a clue. I hope the Koukash perserveres with it because i'd hate it if Super League lost him, he's been a breath of fresh air. I was so looking forward to seeing Salford play tonight as well

#3059233 This piece doesn't reflect well on the RLIF and its new boss

Posted by DoubleD on 22 January 2015 - 05:59 PM

I think people are misunderstanding. Him being Chairman is a statesmanship role but he doesn't have any powers. The Board need to agree decisions and if the NZ and OZ candidates won't play ball then there is little he can do. They hardly have any money - the money for a CEO, which would be in excess of £100k a year, would be taken out of developing nations pot. And what's the point of paying a CEO in excess of 6 figures a year when they would ultimately have no power. Richardson would have been the ideal man though to try and wrest power from the NRL and he knows how to work the politics. An opportunity missed.


Mascord is becoming increasingly tedious and inaccurate in his journalism though. He finishes by saying the northern hemisphere had their chance to lead and blew it? Isn't this the whole issue? This shouldn't be about different hemispheres, the RLIF should be the unification of the world game, leading from the front, not one hemisphere wanting to do things their own way. As it is, the RLIF is a meaningless body in its present state

#3058721 cas ground

Posted by DoubleD on 21 January 2015 - 07:54 PM

I see there's quite a lot of comparison between Warrington's development over the past 15 years and Castleford's potential to do the same. I'd like to point out a few very significant differences between these 2.


1. Prosperity - Warrington and surrounding areas is far bigger and more prosperous than Castleford. I work in Cas and our HQ is in Warrington (Birchwood) so am not speaking from ignorance. Cas is a desperate place, whilst there are some prosperous areas around it, it is not going to generate the same following or revenues as Warrington, regardless of the new stadium. The catchment area for Cas is both smaller and less afluent.


2. Sponsors/Commercial backing - same applies here. Cas attract local trades or manufacturing based companies for sponsors. Yes some are very successful in their own way but they don't have the potential or range of sponsors that Warrington's demographic can attract. Warrington has the potential to attract a broader base of companies including blue chip which leads to higher corporate and commerical revenue


People are focusing too much on stadium size and attendances and not focusing on commercial revenues and corporate support. Catalans don't have the highest attendances but i'm sure i saw that their revenue was the 2nd highest in the league behind Leeds. That's what clubs need to develop to creating a sustainable base. Which is why small towns will always struggle in the increasingly global world and as our sport develops unless they have a very rich sugar daddy to support them

#3051087 Salford Red Devils

Posted by DoubleD on 02 January 2015 - 12:29 PM

Spill the beans then. What did you ask for,?


I hope it wasn't for a white Christmas......

#2982212 Empty Seats On The Telly.....

Posted by DoubleD on 24 August 2014 - 02:42 PM

I was there yesterday and was disappointed with the amount of empty seats. Far more at the Cas end than the Leeds end, which whilst might be to be expected due to the relative size of support, i'd have thought Cas end would have been equally as packed given the paucity of success/opportunities to get to finals.


The Club Wembley sector is a joke, i understand that this runs until 2017. I would have loved to buy tickets in this area, as i had for the World Cup, but couldn't. That said, I don't think opening up Club Wembley will make any difference to the overall attendance, but it will make it look better on tv

#2944446 Blake Green

Posted by DoubleD on 14 June 2014 - 11:16 AM

calling quality players like green and finch "cogs" is a stupid statment 


Not really, I think they are important/key cogs/pivots in the team. They are not world beaters though and can certainly be replaced. Good Super League/fairly good NRL players but hardly world class. Trent Barrett on the other, now he was a different class

#2943227 Cas Sign Junior Moors

Posted by DoubleD on 11 June 2014 - 10:01 PM

 the players have been a success at cas and there are more of the same calibre of oliver holmes and darryll clarke coming through the ranks 


Trust me, there aren't. You don't know what you're talking about. The cupboard is looking fairly bare in the youth ranks for Cas at the moment, with only Will Maher (who was signed from Cumbria Regional Academy) looking like he might break through.


Daryl Powell has done an outstanding job developing players and moulding them from average players to work very well in a structured unit. I have every faith he can do the same with Moors, who for what it's worth is certainly better than average

#2931275 Bradford Bulls sign NZ Warriors duo

Posted by DoubleD on 18 May 2014 - 09:30 AM

Thanks Mt Smart, very interesting and informative and makes sense. Don't NZ have more lenient tax laws compared to Oz though, i'm sure that was one of the reasons Tomkins chose NZ over any Australian NRL clubs? If so, i'd have thought that would be a pull for some Oz NRL players? Although not perhaps for the right reasons!

#2930733 Bradford Bulls sign NZ Warriors duo

Posted by DoubleD on 17 May 2014 - 10:14 AM

Home sickness was part of it I'm sure.
They were both housed together in posh little pad in an afluent area , a stroll from one of Aucklands most picturesque beaches.
Swanky suburb reknowned for hot posh girls ( tis where my wife comes from haha ) and from all accounts they were impressed by how they were being looked after by the club. 
I think the Warriors miss judged the physical miss match , Baldwinsons tall ( he looks like a real prospect for the 2nd row if you ask me ) but both were tiny compared with their team mates , some of these Juniors are bigger than the average players running around in the NRL.


When I was in Hamilton watching them get five token minutes versus Wigan , I thought Baldwinson looked devastated with how they only got a token opportunity there...especially since that Warriors side included C grade Juniors who were meeting for the first time in their lives ( no joke the Winger and a couple of others had been phoned that week to come into camp and make up the numbers....kids flown up from Wellington ).


These lads were meant to hold down spots in a team that had Albert Vete ( a prop who wore the 17 jumper in the trial, Wigan Fans were impressed by....he was a handful for the Wigan side )......Sam Lisone ( another Prop that sits on an average of over 200 meters a game ) and Bunty Afoa......a shool boy Prop they unvieled this year that has been flatening players in Mens grade in the Auckland Club comp since he was 16. 


The depth in that squad is ridiculous.....consider six of those Juniors were removed at the start of the season to play the next level up ( NSW cup + two are NRL fringe players ).....and the Leeds lads were still a bit out of their depth.


Only a day or so before the Rhino's boys went home, we had to let go one of our promising Props from that team, James Taylor has been snapped up by Wayne Bennetts Kinghts the Warriors are bursting at the seams with these playes Jordan Balwinson called " all Freaks " 


ESL fans shouldn't read anything into the boys not being good enough, Baldwinson was making it, turning the corner, that's a big achievement in of itself, they were thrown in the deep end , unfortunate timing that they were there when the Junior program is looking like a Jamaican Junior track team.


Mt Smart, perhaps you can inform me why the Warriors took these players on with them having such an abundance of talent? Or was this actually a Leeds Rhinos plan to send the players out of their comfort zone for a year to understand what it takes to make it in the big time, with the plan always being for them to come back 12 months later, more mature and driven?

#2930732 Joel Tomkins

Posted by DoubleD on 17 May 2014 - 10:08 AM

Wouldn't rush to have him back. The fact he played Union is irrelevant. He is it's hard to explain not big enough for the forwards or agile enough for the backs. He's a slightly above SL player that's all he is. He's like a slightly better version than Ian Thornley. I think a lot of Joel Tomkins hype came from his try at Wembley and the fact his brother is the best British SL player we have produced this century.

I'd have him back obviously, but a huge bid not a chance. If we want a huge bid can we try get back Sam Burgess, Chris Ashton or Bryan Habana on the wing maybe. A huge bid for Joel? Not worth it.

Chris Ashton? I do hope that was a joke, because he is a joke of a player, yet the ignorant kick and clap press seem to think he's a star lol.


I'd be happy to see Joel Tomkins come back, he'd be a solid Super League player, unless he's lost some of his skills in union but i certainly wouldn't be making a big play for him. I'd rather see Eastmond back because he could've been a star

#2921715 First Utility

Posted by DoubleD on 27 April 2014 - 09:06 AM

I know first utility very well, I supplied them with staff from almost their formation.

To say a organisation that makes Rimmer and wood look professional is an understatement.

Please give me your feedback in a year. I'll be surprised if you're not screaming blue murder.


Perhaps you should supply them with better staff and they might not have these problems?

#2921368 First Utility

Posted by DoubleD on 26 April 2014 - 12:18 PM

Like most of you, i had never heard of First Utility before they became the Super League sponsor. That said with the significant press these days about energy prices and how the big players are arguably making excessive profits, i decided to review my deal with Eon which has just finished.


I have never had any issues with Eon and like their website and ease of use. That said, i decided to do a comparison with First Utility, as i wanted to give them a chance, seeing as they have made the effort to invest in our sport. Well by changing, i will save £155 per year by going with First Utility. This is a like for like comparison on a 1 yr fixed deal.


I urge you other fans to give First Utility a chance, not only will you be supporting a company who has invested in our game (when so few will), you could also save yourself a decent whack of money!