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#3062495 Sponsorship outrage!

Posted by Saintslass on 28 January 2015 - 09:27 PM

Saintslass well be fuming or not as the case may be.  :biggrin:

I'm not a Warrington fan so I couldn't care less what Warrington does.  Vaping isn't restricted at Langtree Park and since I'm a Saints fan then that's great for me.

#3061452 Flags flying at half mast

Posted by Saintslass on 26 January 2015 - 09:15 PM

And Saudi investment in this country. Read it is somewhere in the region of £65bn... ethics and morality are quickly forgotten about when economics are involved.

I think we are all guilty as charged.  China may not chop people's hands off for stealing or ban women from driving but their human rights record is not exactly sparkling yet how many of us would be willing to ditch all those cheap(er) Chinese products in favour of the high moral ground?

#3060228 Difference between heartland and non heartland fans?

Posted by Saintslass on 24 January 2015 - 08:12 PM

My background is Saints on both sides of my family as far back as the sport goes but aside from a trip to Wembley to see Saints lose to Halifax when I was a kid I didn't attend a rugby league match live until I was well into adulthood.  In fact, the obsession shown by my Dad and two brothers growing up put me right off.  It was only on one of the occasions when I lived elsewhere in the country - in Sheffield to be precise - that I found myself enjoying rugby league, thanks to the Superleague Show.  I then decided to take in a live game when I was back home visiting, just in time to miss the all conquering 2006 team.  Alas! 


I would say I'm rugby league first, Saints second, although I love indulging in the rivalry with Wigan and Warrington fans when I come across them.  I think some of that is simply identity.  St Helens is my home town, Saints are my home town club, they're my roots and roots are important.  Rugby league is fundamentally a community sport which is both an advantage and disadvantage but it's definitely its essential character.  However, because I came to the sport for myself much later I think I am less inclined to be parochial while still enjoying the sense of shared community against our rivals.

#3060219 This weekend's pre-season games

Posted by Saintslass on 24 January 2015 - 07:50 PM

Newcastle thunder v dewsbury rams tomorrow 4pm k.o

Good win for Thunder there.

#3059849 To whom it may concern

Posted by Saintslass on 23 January 2015 - 09:01 PM

I think it was alway  sung at funerals. Anyway it is a stirring tune and words to consider mans condition.

It still is.  I lost three members of my family in 2014.  Abide with Me was the closing hymn at each of the funerals I attended.  It never failed to cause people to break down.

#3059828 The Time Has Come

Posted by Saintslass on 23 January 2015 - 08:29 PM

300 views already, wonder how many by tonight?

37,800 plus as of 8.30pm tonight.  Not bad. 

#3058134 Sponsorship outrage!

Posted by Saintslass on 20 January 2015 - 08:44 PM

Why's that Saintslass ?   Is it because they're not as safe as you say ?


Just asking, like. ;)

No, it's because the busybodies at the EU think vaping with an object that looks like a big pen might attract loads of people to take up cancer sticks.  That's the basis of the legislation; nothing whatsoever to do with the actual e cigs themselves.  Some would rather people smoke cigarettes than back a product which smokers actually find useful and that is nowhere near the danger to themselves that cigarettes are (and pose no danger whatsoever to other people).  But that's bureaucrats for you. 

#3053955 Sponsorship outrage!

Posted by Saintslass on 09 January 2015 - 08:25 PM

I think there is a lot of ignorance and silly reaction on here.


I use e cigs.  They are nothing like smoking or cigarettes.  They are legal everywhere and there is no reason whatsoever to ban them.  They offer no threat to anyone else and studies so far consistently support the view that young people are NOT taking them up and there is NO take up of e cigs by never smokers. 


In fact, more and more doctors are coming out in support of e cigs.  ASH are in favour of them.  My brand of e cigs, VIP, are tested to EU standards.  Some e cigs are of dodgy quality but vaping and smoking are nothing like each other at all.  The clue is in the words 'vaping' as opposed to 'smoking'.  E cigs do not create smoke, there is no tobacco, and none of the 60 other poisons contained within cigarettes, so they are far, far healthier than cigarettes and they are proving to be a much more popular alternative to patches and gum for quitting (patches and gum have taken a hit in sales as a result of the growth in e cigs).


Sanctimonious know-nothings are irritating generally but specifically on this subject.  People have the smoking ban in public enclosed spaces.  Leave alone those of us who have quit the cigs and are now seeking to quit the habit (ie the use of the cigarette in the hand and the nicotine hit).  Leave us in peace for goodness sake and get off your high horses.


I'm very glad Saints partnered with Totally Wicked and I'm very glad we are free to use our e cigs at Langtree Park.  We are grown ups and grown ups should be allowed in a grown up environment to enjoy something that is perfectly legal and of no harm to anyone else, just as others enjoy their drug of choice alochol (which is often of considerable harm to others).

#3052976 10 dead at French Satirical Mag

Posted by Saintslass on 07 January 2015 - 06:18 PM

Free speech and the freedom to offend is well on the way out. Would we have a programme made today like 'Not The 9 0'Clock News'? Absolutely no chance.

I agree.  I haven't read about this incident yet as I've been at work (although I know from this thread that either 10 or 12 are dead).  However, we haven't had freedom to offend in this country for at least a decade.  Try using satire against gay people or disabled people or people of other skin colour and immediately the person being satirical will be hounded for being prejudiced in some way.  It isn't guns and knives, but it's effective at silencing people.  I'm not saying it's right to be able to satirise gay people, etc, but nontheless we are not receptive to being offended these days either.


However, that is massively different from what has happened recently within Islam. Offence has always been felt when Mohammed is ridiculed but not to the extent that today's Muslims can take matters.

#3052677 THE BIBLE

Posted by Saintslass on 06 January 2015 - 09:31 PM

I love reading, but I have never read the bible, this is because I'm not a fan of fiction

You never read fiction?  Ever?  Gosh.  You are missing out on a lot.

#3052654 THE BIBLE

Posted by Saintslass on 06 January 2015 - 08:44 PM

I think the Bible is a wonderful book and not just for its history.  Its poetry and prose are amazing.  As an English graduate I can fully appreciate the varied styles of writing, the use of allegory and other devices that are so clever and often so powerful.  The stories themselves are often very engaging and profound even those that appear quite whacky.  The characters are intriguing and there is someone for everyone, from pantomime villains to veritable saints.  I haven't actually read any of it since I was at university though so I'm getting a bit rusty. 

#3052306 Ladbrokes to sponsor Challenge Cup

Posted by Saintslass on 05 January 2015 - 09:23 PM

Slik Cut didn't cause an implosion of social irresponsibility so a bookmakers shouldn't either.

It wouldn't even be legal for Silk Cut to sponsor us now so I'm not sure the comparison is a valid one really!


Personally I don't like the idea of a bookies sponsoring the sport in any capacity.  On the one hand the RFL claims ours is a family sport yet on the other it endorses gambling which has become a significant problem in this country. 

#3051619 Sponsors

Posted by Saintslass on 03 January 2015 - 10:19 PM

i think the Sally Bolton thing is overstated. Wood was her director, and she had a Commercial Manager in charge of attracting sponsors - who now works full time for the RFL.
Bolton worked for the RFL who attracted much criticism for years. The rlwc was brilliant, I loved it, yet there were many areas for improvement and we should be looking upwards and onwards from even that success. Bolton rightly deserved credit for the tournament, but the fact her RFL career is now ignored sort of proves my point about criticism of the rfl.

That said, I do agree hiring good people is crucial, but ut wont change overnight.

Finally, it should also be pointed out that the RFL's sponsorship portfolio includes:
First Utility
Irn Bru
Kingstone Press

so things are much better than previously

The portfolio no longer includes Tetley's (unless they are sponsoring something other than the Challenge Cup).  The RFL have said they are announcing a new sponsor for the Challenge Cup in January.


I disagree about Sally Bolton.  I don't think her role can be overstated.  I think she was pivotal in making the world cup a success and had she not been, she wouldn't have got the higher profile job she now has.  I very much doubt you are appointed to organise the athletics world championships without being able to provide sound evidence of your experience and success at a similar (though smaller) event.

#3051343 Olsi off Down Under

Posted by Saintslass on 03 January 2015 - 06:53 AM

Good for him.  I don't know why the Broncos didn't re-sign him, unless he had planned to try his hand down under and that is what decided Grima.  I hope he makes a success of things in Australia.  At least he hasn't been lost to the game.

#3049283 so what's he bringing you this year

Posted by Saintslass on 27 December 2014 - 10:29 AM

Well people don't live in fear of a powerful tyrannical Christian hierarchy any more: so it's up to them what they celebrate.
I don't mind calling it Christmas and I think the story, and all the rites and rituals connected with the story quite beautiful. I can also lose myself in the beauty of church architecture. But I haven't actually believed it since I was a kid. My parents were Anglicans but fortunately I was encouraged to think for myself. Do you think there is an element of brainwashing in religious cults such as the ones you are a member of?

I'm not a member of anything, much less a cult.  Have you heard the term 'agnostic'?  Well I'm one of them.  I go to a Christian church once a year: to the nine lessons and carols service.  I grew up surrounded by Christianity as my Dad was an Anglican clergyman.  I know a lot about the Anglican church and about Christianity and I'm generally interested in matters of faith regardless of the faith.  I too was encouraged to think for myself and as a result I've come to the conclusion that I don't know.  However, there is historical evidence for the existence of Jesus and that he was an itinerant teacher in the Galilee area and I'm quite a fan of his.  He thought for himself too, and stood up to the abusers in society.  I rather like that in a man so as I say I'm a fan.  That's why I go along to the nine lessons and carols service every year.  I'm showing my support for a bloke I think was rather cool.