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C H Calthrop

Member Since 27 Apr 2014
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#3184679 29/8/2015 RL Challenge Cup Final Hull Kingston Rovers v Leeds Rhinos, Wembley...

Posted by C H Calthrop on 31 August 2015 - 10:49 AM

For those bemoaning the state of the game and how the end is nigh now that a team has been thrashed at Wembley, did the 75-0 thrashing Saints gave Wigan live on the BBC in one wonderful Challenge Cup game kill off the sport? 

No that was a fantastic day, I have the commemorative mug and t-shirt! :yahoo: .

#3184460 Newspaper watch

Posted by C H Calthrop on 30 August 2015 - 07:06 PM

Shouldn't Brian Barwick with a career in the media be doing more to improve media coverage of our game at all levels?

Shouldn't Brian Barwick do something!

#3182368 Book thread: what are you reading?

Posted by C H Calthrop on 25 August 2015 - 01:16 PM

I am reading Catch 22 which I am really not getting in to.


It's not a book that I struggle to put down, but hopefully it will grow on me. 


I have other books waiting to be read but this was recommended to me so I will stick with it.


I am also reading a recent Wilbur Smith book on my Kindle which clearly wasn't written by him as the writing style is nothing like his previous books.

Shouldn't that be Kick 22?

#3165815 Something else for us to pull apart...

Posted by C H Calthrop on 27 July 2015 - 08:42 AM

Is that the time, it's your time, it's my time, there comes a time, not one minute, one hour or one day, your whole life is the time, every time is the time this time next time any time.

Well that was painful. Some of those Wigan voices have barely a sentence to say and still deliver it as if reading by running their fingers under each word. Sean Wane.... it might not be fair criticism maybe he suffers from Catarrh.

#3151037 Warrington Wolves rebrand

Posted by C H Calthrop on 02 July 2015 - 11:33 AM

I do like the add on of the wire but the wolfs a bit thunder cats.

Id have gone for this.



#3150713 Obituary Corner

Posted by C H Calthrop on 01 July 2015 - 08:22 PM

Sir Nicholas Winton. RIP

Don't know what's more impressive, his bravery by saving 669 children destined for Nazi concentration camps, or his humility when didn't tell a single person that he did (I still recall watching That's Life in 1988 when his actions were revealed).

I make an effort to tell as many as I can about this man. That 100 Greatest Britons show on the BBC a few years back was missing arguably its greatest.

#3149084 28 Jun: CCQF - St Helens v Widnes Vikings KO 4pm (TV)

Posted by C H Calthrop on 28 June 2015 - 05:51 PM

I remember listening to an interview with Tommy Martin. Part of his diet regime was 5 bowls of fresh fruit per day. Did you see the canteen there at Saints. They're not skimping there on the cheese and crispy chicken skin.

#3143725 The Pope and the Climate

Posted by C H Calthrop on 19 June 2015 - 06:12 PM

Scepticism should be the default mindset of the scientist.


Science progresses when scientists are able to debunk hypotheses and theories and put something better in their place.


Unquestioning belief in what we're told, even by scientists, isn't healthy.


Otherwise we find ourselves believing all sorts of things that later turn out not to be true.


80 years ago you might have been telling us that scientists peddling their nonsense about eugenics were beyond reproach. People on the so-called left like George Bernard Shaw and John Maynard Keynes were as enthusiastic and lacking scepticism about that 'science' as many people are today about climate change. 


Incidentally, I spent 20 years in academia, and anyone who believes that all academics have unimpeachable integrity, and would never tailor their findings to what they believe their audience (or in particular their funder) wants to hear, is not living in the real world.

Following the evidence where it leads not where you want it to lead  is the default mind of the scientist.

The point of questions is that you find the answer not maintain disbelief stemming only from personal incredulity backed by a lack of understanding of the science. 

#3142932 The Pope and the Climate

Posted by C H Calthrop on 18 June 2015 - 04:53 PM

If that's true "the science" seems to be having its cake and eating it.


In fact virtually all the climate predictive models totally failed to forecast the climate hiatus from 1998 until the present day.

The apparent increase in sea ice and link with polar temperature rise is a well known mechanism and isn't contradicted by any "climate predictive model".

The hiatus from 1998 or 1995 take your pick is severely contradicted in the increase in thermal mass of the surface water on the planet.

#3135658 Interchanges to be reduced

Posted by C H Calthrop on 05 June 2015 - 05:40 PM

Also in terms of injuries how many players are tackled by 3 men. Most of them is the answer. That is a lot of uneven weight and twisting with this nonsense wrestling to put a man down. If reducing interchanges is an inroad to changing the game dynamic then lets hope for positive knock on effects.

#3131063 Sol Mokdad / UAE Rugby League (merged threads)

Posted by C H Calthrop on 28 May 2015 - 10:58 PM

Disagree in the strongest terms.



The above quote shows total lack of understanding of how things are done in the region. Personally, I think it is unbelievable that the RLEF recognised the UAERL without first doing due diligence, but that is conveniently side-stepped by the tin foil hat brigade in pursuit of a conspiracy theory at the expense of the truth and the facts.



The above ignores the fact that Sol Makdad set up a sporting governing body incorrectly and then called himself the President when that title can only be held by an Emirati. In calling himself the President when approaching sponsors and investors, he opened himself up to charges of Fraud. 


None of us have to like it, but he did break the law of the land!


Oh, and as if to underline that this is not a great article, but just the opinion of on an-line hack preaching to an already converted congregation, he gives us more of his opinion....


If you're going to go all "moral" on where we should play RL based on how the locals are treated, why not call for a suspension of the NRL until the Aborigines are fully recompensed for the brutality inflicted on them and still done through social degradation now.

Why am I not convinced when in reference to RL you use the term "we".

I think it was the rationalising of 21st C indebted servitude in the UAE and RL doing business with them for a possible WC  and a debt to native Australians from the Australian government.


Also along with the unbelievable way the RLIF didn't check on whether the organiser of UAE RL was liable to be arrested on the prompt of the UAE RU  are you of the mind that it is equally unbelievable that the UAE RU authorities didn't realise they had no rights over the sport of RL?

#3130848 Poverty porn TV reaches a new low

Posted by C H Calthrop on 28 May 2015 - 03:34 PM

In comparison Monkey Tennis sounds like an idea from the mind of a TV genius 

#3130017 Fox hunting

Posted by C H Calthrop on 27 May 2015 - 08:41 AM

But that isn't a response to my point.  I was saying that there was no outcry about the slow death of rats and mice in the way that there is about a potential slow death of a fox.  Rabbits are another mammal that can be a pest.  Same with moles.  Again, no outcry when poison or gas is used, neither of which are particularly humane means of killing.

Well no human turns killing infestation species into a game, it is a necessary measure to promote health, well being and preserve property.  No one is killing rabbits and moles for fun and promoting their populations to do so. No one dawbs the blood of a freshly killed rat on the faces of their children. One is legitimate pest control economic, as efficient as possible and tailored for the type of animal it is used upon the other a ritual slaughter of wildlife for entertainment accompanied with special pleading to preserve it in the face of all the other blood sports being banned. 

#3129902 Fox hunting

Posted by C H Calthrop on 26 May 2015 - 10:11 PM

Since I'm not a hunter I wasn't going to get specific other than I know how tricky it is to fire accurately at a moving target. I only shoot inanimate objects! When a moving target is unpredictable, as a live one is, and small, as a fox is, then achieving a clean kill is going to be harder. 


I think your final two sentences point to what I said elsewhere.  This debate is about emotion.  Why though has this emotion only attached itself to fox hunting?  Why not other kinds of hunting?  Why not the lingering deaths of other pests which we inflict apparently without second thought?  (Other mammals which will also feel pain)  Is it because the fox looks cute?  Is it because country people are involved in the hunt?  Or (mostly but not exclusively) rich people?  It is a mystery to me as to why this particular issue raises so many emotional hackles in some people.

Shooting clays with a shotgun is a different proposition to rifle shooting with a scope against pests. No farmer with a real fox pest problem would have a hunt on his land over a rifle solution the odds of success are far in the favour of the rifle. And a moving target isn't necessary they'd be shot when walking or stationary as part of the controllers skill in laying up. 

No one is killing mice and rats as blood sport. For a fox to affect the human population in a way comparable to rats and mice it would have to be armed with biological weapons and be an arsonist.

The fox hunt along with all the others is a blood sport and that's why they are banned. The animals don't want to play. Killing foxes for fun is no different to the badger or bear bait, dog fighting, cock fighting no different apart from the word hunt and the people who take part don't wear donkey jackets.  And remember hunts nurture fox populations so they can run them down. 

#3129811 Fox hunting

Posted by C H Calthrop on 26 May 2015 - 08:20 PM

None of those can be compared to fox hunting.  Fox hunting, whatever you think of the means, has an authentic purpose: to control a pest.  Foxes are still hunted and killed for the same reason.  Have you watched a rat or mouse die from poisoning?  It's horrible to see.  A slow, painful death.  Yet I don't hear anyone in uproar about the long, slow death of rats or mice, yet we kill them for the same reason we kill foxes: they are pests that put us at risk in one way or another.  The examples you give have no such purpose.  They exist simply to fulfil the betting ambitions of some sick human beings.

No and never has. Fox populations are promoted for the hunt. The hunt is a chase for riders of horses to have fun. The same would hunt deer, lions, boar for their jollies if available. The fox is a good chase animal that's why it is used.  

I mean badgers are pests through the link to tuberculosis and when baited are presented with the same death as a fox torn apart by dogs in terror. We ban badger baiting.

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