Saintslass

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  1. Saintslass

    Our new position in the EU

    I'm not convinced it did. This was the third time the exact same complaint had been investigated. Vote Leave was cleared on the two other occasions. There are a few unanswered questions about the investigation which I hope will be fully explored.
  2. The anti-Semitism row has taken a nasty turn (from the Guardian's rolling news site): Meanwhile, a report is emerging that a Jewish Labour MP has taken issue with the party’s leader, Jeremy Corbyn, in the most strident of terms: Heather Stewart ✔ @GuardianHeather Had been hearing rumours of a Labour dust-up, but this is grim. Party in absolute turmoil after today's NEC decision not to overturn the code of conduct on antisemitism... Paul Waugh ✔ @paulwaugh EXCLUSIVE: Jeremy Corbyn was told to his face 'you're a ###### anti-semite and a racist' by a Jewish Labour MP tonight. https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-corbyn-told-by-veteran-jewish-mp-youre-a-######-racist-and-anti-semite-margaret-hodge_uk_5b4e34cbe4b0fd5c73bfe020?dh … 8:52 PM - Jul 17, 2018
  3. Saintslass

    Our new position in the EU

    Had the pairing with the two pregnant Labour MPs not taken place then I would have been suspicious.
  4. Saintslass

    Our new position in the EU

    Labour has already confirmed that their pairing with the Tories took place as arranged so I do not think there was anything duplicitous. Therefore yes, I can believe he forgot, especially because the vote was so important.
  5. Saintslass

    Elon Musk

    I wasn't sure I'd get the British version past the swear filter!
  6. Saintslass

    Our new position in the EU

    Actually, yes. My party is in such a panic-stricken chaotic mess at the moment that I have no problem believing it.
  7. Saintslass

    Our new position in the EU

    The government supported remain. But yes, they did cheat. They spent £9 million before the leave side was even allowed to start spending.
  8. Saintslass

    Our new position in the EU

    Labour has already confirmed that the Tories have honoured the pairing with their two pregnant women so it may well be a genuine error.
  9. Saintslass

    Our new position in the EU

    That isn't what they were doing though. They were voting as per their views just as Ken Clarke always, always votes with the Labour party, ie pro-EU.
  10. Saintslass

    Our new position in the EU

    I don't know why the government opposed the medicines arrangement amendment as the intention to remain involved was already referred to in the proposed legislation. The government was not bothered about losing that amendment. I was surprised the government won the customs amendment. The remainers must have overstated their case. I found it enlightening to listen to the MP who introduced the medicines amendment. He said clearly on TV that because the government had listened to the Brexiteers yesterday he decided not to support the government in the customs amendment. That really is shocking. It's one thing to be in opposition and not think of anything other than bringing the government down (although that is bad enough in a Brexit context, given the importance of the matter) but it is another thing entirely to cast your vote purely out of revenge or spite. That really is behaviour beneath the office of MP.
  11. Saintslass

    Our new position in the EU

    I think the government will be defeated as the Tory remainers now have a big enough group to defeat the government whenever they want to as was seen in the Withdrawal Bill. They moan about the Brexiteers but it is actually the remainers that have caused the most disruption. Time wasting - that's the nature of politics. While I do agree it probably shouldn't be available it can be useful.
  12. Saintslass

    Those nice tories

    Someone on the Daily Politics show today said that Labour MPs had requested breaking up early for summer recess and that the Tories had been played given that Labour MPs have now said they will vote against.
  13. Saintslass

    Our new position in the EU

    Apparently there are 23 Tories due to vote for the amendment. Alongside Labour, LibDems and the SNP that is a defeat for the government on that amendment. Time wasting is a well used political ploy but I doubt the government will get away with it, should that be what they are actually doing.
  14. Saintslass

    Our new position in the EU

    Good to know what is really going on behind the scenes (from the Guardian rolling news site): The pro-Brexit Guido Fawkes blog has this afternoon published what it says is the text of a leaked email Hammond sent to other pro-European Tories suggesting that, if the cabinet backed a deal including “continued economic alignment” at Chequers (as it subsequently did), the pro-Europeans would not push amendments to the trade bill to a vote. Here is an excerpt from the email. Commenting on this, the Guido Fawkes website says it “shows the dishonesty of the remainers, claiming that the ERG [European Research Group] s controlling the government when it is they who have been coordinating threats to force Number 10 into a non-Brexit.” The email was sent to 22 Tory MPs (and one PA, Debbie Sugg). Including Hammond, that makes a list of 23 Conservatives who could all be potential rebels on the customs union.
  15. Saintslass

    Our new position in the EU

    Yes, the remainers are rebelling again, after all their spewing of mouth yesterday about the Brexiteers. They have added an amendment to keep us in the customs union after Brexit. Labour will support that of course as they've changed their tune (multiple times) since the GE and they now support staying in the customs union. So I imagine the government will be defeated and the amendment will carry.