Mr Wind Up

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  1. Growth in Bromley and Greenwich is certainly possible, but it's also a fairly big Crystal Palace/Charlton area.
  2. The amount of people is meaningless if few of them have an interest. For starters, less than half of those people would have any interest in sport, let alone MUFC/MCFC or Salford. Just because 120,000 people attend games regularly doesn't mean that what's left over is a potential floating customer waiting to be whisked away. I would imagine the vast majority of sports fans in Manchester that don't attend live sport regularly are still probably footballs fans. They just consume it like most other sports fans: TV, radio, newspapers etc. I agree that Salford should be able to target 10k average in their future. It's a realistic aim. But it's not as simple as saying 'look how many people there in the city'. Of course Manchester can support a strong Salford. But the football tradition makes that very difficult to do.
  3. People overestimate the importance of local players. This is important for a number of reasons, but not for attracting interest.
  4. Dont need to wait for his response. I dunno how payouts early on work, but that is very, very, very solid. The Chelsea one you have down no question. Leeds wont get automatic promotion, but will be one of four teams vying for it through playoffs. To be honest, this might be what trips you up. Leeds are for mine the best of the lot, but these playoffs have a tendency not to promote the most deserving team. sheffield and doncaster both topping the league, but with 8 games to go, their leads arent sufficient enough to say it is cast iron. Still, both look good at the moment. Man Utd, outside of Lyon, are clear favourites for EL. I think this will happen. Barcelona are just as likely to win UCL. But...unlike EL....there are a lot of good teams left. This one is a toss up. Real, Atletico, Bayern and even Barcas QF opponent Juventus could easily topple Barca. Bascially, you have a good bet you have to feel very good about right now. But i cant see any bookie oaying out early based on what remains. Leeds and Barca still have much work to do before any bookie would start panicking I think.
  5. I just drew that line... Marseille, Lyon, Nice, even Bordeaux. Please enlighten us as to how much bigger rugby is in these cities than football.
  6. It is possible to take production inhouse. It is also more expensive. Selling direct to consumers also limits exposure to a wider base.
  7. Citing falling circulation misses the point that most of these rags are now geared towards online offerings. The DM is the largest in the world. The point people are making here is that decision makers are using their union ties to embellish union nnews and restrict RL news. This doesnt need to happen by holding secret meetings to conspire against RL. All they need to do is appoint people who cant report on RL as they know nothing about it. As for the rest, theyll just source it from places like AP.
  8. This is a perfect example of misunderstanding what people really mean when they say those things. They are not saying they dont watch RL because it's the same old teams winning it. They are saying they dont watch RL because they dont like it. They are just listing one of any number of reasons to justify their position. Ive heard the same things about football: diving, low scoring, etc. People arent watching it because of those reasons. Instead, they use those reasons as a way to put it down in order to justify to themselves and others that they are right. In other words, they have no interest in ever watching, regardless of whether it becomes more competitive or they stamp out diving. But you dont need to take my word for it. The evidence is out there for all to see. On the one hand, you have a highly competitive NFL that is gaining its international appeal. On the other hand, you have a clique of 10 clubs in football that account for most of international attention. Point? Both models work. The difference is understanding that these things are irrelevant. What matters is that people get to like the sport first and foremost. They dont come to that conclusion based on competitiveness. Most kids that develop passion for sports dont approach things like that. As for the sports they rarely get exposed to and, by definiton, end of disliking? As adults, they come to rationalise their behaviour by saying things like: it's the same old faces winning it.
  9. I think there needs to be a distinction between 'doing a good job to capture an audience' and 'doing a job for an existing, captive audience'. United has 72 million Facebook followers. Whatever they do, it's going to look like they're doing a good job of promoting themselves. In reality, all they've needed to do is be successful on the pitch, and their social media following has followed easily. No different in Australia with cricket. As one of the major national sports, they need to do far less to attract people through promotion. The game sells itself, and the social media side follows. The mass media gives them free exposure/promotion/advertising. The only way less popular sports can combat this is to spend money to promote, whereas the established big sports barely have to lift a finger.
  10. For what it's worth, I don't for a second believe what this guy is saying regarding the shirt sponsorship ("trust me" isn't evidence of anything), but it's not difficult to top premier league kit deals. Middlesbrough and Watford for example are only £1m a year each.
  11. Once we sort out plane speeds, SL/NRL merger will be he way forward. I envision a unified world league that, at first, is largely made up of English and Aussie clubs. I think everyone wants Toronto to succeed. Maybe a few less want Toulouse to succeed, but on the whole most would.
  12. This thread is enough to give someone a brain aneurism. It's basically walls of text of people conflating objectivity with subjectivity. As a football fan first and foremost, even the most boring of games still appeal to me more than other sports. Id watch third division football over state of origin. Saying something is objectively better is true for you, for people who share your opinion, and thats about it. The best way to think of it is like this: think of how much you really, really love your favourite sport, and then imagine someone else feeling the same way about another sport. It's a simple concept, but one a few people in this thread seem to struggle with.
  13. It makes little sense to compare football in the US pre-94 to RL pre-2025. What similarities can anyone draw? Apart from the FIFA world cup selling itself, the US already had tradition of solid attendances up to that point. The NY Cosmos alone had 65 occasions on which they drew over 40,000. As as MWP mentioned, millions of kids playing the game. None of these things are present in US RL at the moment. None of that is to say that they can't host a successful WC with sold out stadiums. But to base this on the idea that 'yeah football did it so it'll be a lark' or 'Americans can't tell the difference between countries so it doesn't matter who plays' is the wrong way of thinking about it.
  14. Or they see Georgia for what it is: a poor, tiny country that doesn't add much value to the Six Nations.
  15. That's what they said last time too. Except that the stuff no one watches isn't what Sky is spending significant amounts of money on (unlike Super League). If they're getting those properties on the cheap, and one suspects they are, then it is the mid-tier sports properties (those they're spending tens and hundreds millions on) that are at most risk of seeing cuts.