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Remember when Saints were known as "The Entertainers?" Seems a long time ago doesn't it.

Definitely looks more interesting than it would have done a few weeks ago. Hull KR on a little wobble and Catalans starting to look like an actual RL team again. I'd be surprised if Rovers don't win it, but I think it might be a tight one. Rovers by 6

We need to use the second half against Wakefield as our template for playing without Asiata and Pryce. Accept our attacking limitations and just go route one with Herman, Knight, Cartwright etc carrying with purpose and playing it quickly. Wigan aren't physically the biggest team around, and we could get some joy. Then make use of Litten and Barron's height and ability in the air. Wigan should win, but it wouldn't be the biggest shock in the world. They aren't playing well at the moment.

Erm, because they are relevant to plenty of other things. Just not forward passes.

Meh, if he goes he goes. Good prospect, but Callum Kemp is better.

I disagree on the forward passes. Of course forward passes get missed every game, but not nearly as often as you suggest. The main issue with forward passes is that a huge percentage of fans don't seem to understand what a forward pass actually is. If you look at the players hands rather than the pitch markings (which are irrelevant) there really aren't many obvious forward passes in most games.

I don't for one minute think the wheels are off for Hull KR, but they might have lost a bit of their aura. A few weeks ago it was hard to see where the weaknesses where when they were wiping the floor with everyone. A couple of losses later and rather than being intimidated, a lot of sides will now be thinking "we can do that too." It's like the old Mike Tyson thing. Most of his opponents had lost before they got in the ring, but as soon as people saw that there were a couple of chinks in the armour everything changed. Rovers might find they have to find another gear now if they want the LLS.

Uele has been a great pick up for you. The challenge, as you allude to, is keeping them all together. If you can it will be some pack in another year or two. They've all got their best rugby ahead of them.

Double post.

I'm not a Huddersfield fan, and I don't pay any attention to what the commentators think about a player, but I've watched him a few times now and he has consistently impressed me. He needs to bulk up a little, and he has a bit to work on defensively, but considering the lack of quality around him he always seems to look a threat. Very good on his feet, very balanced and composed, and deceptively quick. One of those players that doesn't seem to be moving all that fast and yet glides away from defenders. Maybe he just had a bad game tonight, I can't really comment on that because I didn't watch it.

Catalans seemed to put in a good performance last time at home (unless Huddersfield were really really bad, I didn't see the game), so this might not be a stroll for Warrington. I still expect they will probably come out on top though.

Just reading about Ese'ese's stats. 21 carries, 180 metres, 7 tackle busts, 3 offloads, 29 tackles, 0 errors, 0 penalties, 0 missed tackles. Huge game from the big man.

You are allowed to enjoy whatever you want. Like I said, it was interesting in its own way, but the quality was way off.

It was kept interesting by the fact that it was so close. But neither side offered anything in attack. The 1-0 game at the start of the season was a great game. The challenge cup final was a great game. This was two teams making schoolboy errors and generally looking like a rabble for 80 minutes.

I quite like a low scoring thriller as a rule, but that was a poor game. The skills from both sides were way off. Credit to Saints for grinding it out, but not one to remember.