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Begin the Beguine - Artie Shaw

According to the Mail if you know what Hummus and Prosecco are you're posh. I quite like prosecco. I've never had hummus. I consider myself the absolute opposite of posh.

Easy. The stand-off if the player the defending backrow forward hits as hard as possible as often as possible. (at least it was in my day )

I know what you're saying and there is some truth in it. But on Saturday, I watched Leeds v Wigan and TBH I thought the decsions on ball stealing were inconsistent to say the least, I also thought that Senior should have been binned. I had no axe to grind whatsoever.

I posted this: "We didn't think we were getting a fair shake from the ref. either particularly in the high tackle area. So perhaps he was equally bad for both teams. If Dewsbury can perform like that every week surely they'll win more than they lose. Someone remarked to me before the game about referees. I said it's a truism that refs. don't miss tackles, don't drop passes, or commit offences. But British Rugby League fans at all levels of the pro game continue to complain about them. Who's right and who's wrong? Is it a case of the RFL establishment saying "everyone's out of step except us?" The fact remains that fans complain weekly about their treatment by refs. And refs. can and do materially affect the outcome of games (Fev v Catalan ) and possibly yesterday's and possibly Saturday's cup-tie. So perhaps it's time that their performances were monitored for a while by a scruitineer independent of the RFL or the clubs. And a report produced. Or does that sound too much like common sense for RL. " on the Dewsbury forum - I don't know what Fev fans views are. I daren't put it on the main forum I'd get banned but I think it represents what a lot of RL fans think.

TBH I thought Dewsbury deserved to win today. They looked committed and there was some urgency in their play. They took the ball up well and made some intelligent kicks. We seemed to have the attitude that all we needed to was turn up. Hard lines Dewsbury. Lucky Fev.

Cindy Incidentally - Faces, one of their greatest. Fantastic Ronnie Wood guitar riff to start.

Shouldn't that be a bored tourist?

I prefer the blue narrow hooped shirt. I used to think the red one looked smart. I never saw us win a match wearing it though. IIRC we played Bradford in the 1989 Yorkshire cup final wearing those shirts and were very unlucky on the day.

He autographed my programme for the 1961 GB v NZ test at Odsal. Unfortunately I've lost it

You mean pukah ruggah played at Twickahs.

Before the advent of Leeds Union, "Leeds Rugby" always meant Leeds RLFC as distinct from LUFC, "Wigan Rugby" always meant Central Park too I believe.

Rugby means RL in Wakey - always has done, even when they had a pretty good Union side playing at College Grove. Underwood, Cusworth, Barley, Harrison all played for Wakefield Union at some time in the seventies and eighties. But Wakefield Trinity are a name in RL history and Rugby in Wakey will always mean Trinity. In Fev no explanation is necessary.

That's all right then.

It's not the clubs - it's the presence of the roadsigns, which for obvious reasons tend to be in prominent positions at motorway junctions. The sign to Wakefield is at the end of the A650 dual carriageway link to the M1. The brown sign to Headingley on the M62 just says "Headingley Stadium" without mentioning the sports that are played there - given that it's a current international cricket stadium I suppose that's understandable. Are St Helens still St Helens RFC btw? It certainly used to say that at Knowsley Road. If all the new grounds come off that would be an opportunity too, for Wakey, Salford, and Saints. There is a Union side in Cas on Willowbridge Lane so that might be difficult.

I never said they did. What I said (and say) is that if the opportunity presents itself the clubs should try and get them altered, where there is no ambiguity that is. For instance I don't think there's a Batley Union club so a sign to Mount Pleasant could say Batley Rugby Club - or Dewsbury Rugby Club. Clubs like Leeds, Saints, Wigan, Bradford have Union equivalents and I suppose the qualification of the word "League" is required.

There are always a lot of contentious posts on here and in the "other place" about the term "Rugby." I went to watch Fev on Thursday and as you come off the M62 at Jct 31 and go under the motorway there's a signpost to "Featherstone Rovers RLFC." I went to my daughter's in Salisbury on Friday evening and as you drive down the A34 past Oxford there's a signpost to "Oxford Rugby Club." It occurred to me that in cases like Fev, or Hull KR or Rochdale Hornets, or Wakfield or anywhere else for that matter where there's absolutely no ambiguity what it means, why these signs couldn't read e.g Featherstone Rovers RFC or Rugby Club. Wouldn't this be a step in the direction of our game preventing the other lot from claiming total possession of the term "Rugby" as they seem to be trying to? And in the case of the "Rugby World Cup" already have done?

I remember flying into Venice in July 1988. We were over the Alps and the snow in the valleys looked really deep. Ten minutes later we were on the ground and the heat and humidity was just like a wall. 90 degrees F.

Creditable perfomance by Fev at Wire today.(according to Jack Dearden on Radio Manchester) Wish I'd gone now Cas fans are already talking about Powell for them on the main forum. :glare:

I snowed heavily in Leeds on 23rd April, 1981. Cast not a clout.... It certainly snowed briefly in Buxton in June 1993 - I was there.

Can't see the point myself. Turn up, go through the motions, take the money and concentrate on the League. If we put up a decent performance and look like giving them trouble the ref will make a decsion like the one Thaler made against Catalan. IMO it's pointless the players risking a season ending injury in these games when we know from the start what will happen if we look like winning. I recall the cup game against Leeds in the late nineties. The only time I've ever seen a player sin-binned for "persistent offside" They were always going to win but were a bit rusty not having played a real competitive game and Rovers (well into their season) were giving them a bit of a run-around. Until the sin-binning that is. After that it was no contest and no longer a competitive game.

Iko Iko -Dixie Cups

Cindy Incidentally - Faces - classic seventies rock - great guitar riff too - Ronnie Wood presumably.

Tough one to call. Fev are the form team. 'Fax seem to be struggling but they have the talent. Whatever the outcome should be a great atmosphere under the lights. Recalling the great Regal Trophy encounter of 1991 where Fev with 11 men beat 'Fax who for quite a lot of the second half (due to Brendan Hill being in the bin) were down to 12. I recall Pearson outpacing Preston (no slouch) to score under the sticks at P O Road end. I used to have a video but lost it,. If it's as good a game it'll be great. If the result's the same even better. I'm a bit of a closet 'Fax fan (after Fev)

Last season 'Haven had us beaten after twenty minutes. What a difference a year makes.