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(even bigger sigh) thanks for your indulgence Tex. firstly, we were competing quite well with the leeds and wigans of this world before s/l, and if we were still getting those fixtures we would be in a much healthier position than we are now. s/l has not been enhanced by our exclusion imo. secondly, i said i was watching better skills than that. (i had noticed that the game has changed). if it's your opinion that tomkins and eastwood are as good as marshall, that's fine. but i can't say i agree with you, and i dont see nrl clubs offering them the megabucks that marshall is getting. did gareth Ellis get player of the year before or after the aussies had sorted him out. you're quite right about Burgess, but he is the exception rather than the rule, perhaps if he was australian you would class him as a freak. so, in surmation, we've produced 2 world class forwards, who have had to go to australia to develop their game. you agree we are having a top season playing our brand of s/l rugby. agree who with? thanks for the offer, but no, i wont be standing with you at a game, and i find that attitude rather pompous. unless of course it was your rapier wit and went completely over my head. in conclusion may i say that "good games" are not exclusive to s/l and the basic skills of passing catching and kicking that were lacking at the cas wakey match, have been around for as long as i can remember, and were performed by players who weren't able to concentrate on rugby league 7 days a week. thanks for the chat.

tbh Maureen, i don't think it's just rugby league, if it aint football they're not interested.

and here's me thinking you didn't have a sense humour.

pull your neck in professor. yes i do have an issue with superleague. my club has had to suffer because of the inception of superleague, but if it had done what it set out to do, then i wouldn't have an argument, but it hasn't. yesterday i watched two teams who are fighting for a playoff place, and the skills on display were mediocre. i was watching better than that 30 or 40 years ago. take the overseas players out of the equation and it's even worse. it's not just about "good games". we had good games before superleague. so tell me, where's our Benji Marshall, Jonathon Thurston, Billy Slater, Darren Lockyer, need i go on?. when Gareth Ellis went to Australia, they said they had to get him out on the training pitch and teach him the basics. the aim of superleague was to give us a top class domestic competition and a national team that would rule the world. how long is it going to take. the castleford area is a hotbed of rugby league, if our system is so good, why do we need the likes of McGoldrick,Chase, widders, sergeant etc playing in our competition. don't you think the british game should be better than it is by now, compare our best players to Australias best players, and they're in another galaxy. and as for our top 4 or 5 teams, how good would they be without their imports. superleague? it doesn't do what it says on the tin.

<br /><br /><br /> it's not the fact that it was a good or bad game, the quality was poor, and superleague was supposed to address that.

<br /><br /><br /> i have a man on the inside, so to speak.

went to watch c*s and wakey today, (freebie of course), and if that is where all these years of superleague has got us, then scrap it, scrap it NOW!

i use windows moviemaker or nero, they're both pretty straightforward.

kieghley are a decent side and we did well to beat them at home in a good close game. Barry Eaton didn't play in that game, but he played in the game last season, and just strolled around the pitch giving all the young lads a rugby lesson. i imagine he gave another masterclass this time.

unfortunately he will be doing it for huddersfield.

no mate, they will both have seperate identities. wakefield trinity wildcats, and wakefield trinity wildcats " B". as c*s play in black and amber hoops, they will be the bee team.

only 3 of these lads signed on, i believe.

having been stabbed in the back by both these clubs, we should wish them both a long and miserable association. they deserve each other.

this is the new england coach we're talking about. it doesn't bear thinking about.

Chris Bibb was a cracking fullback, and probably the most stylish i've seen in a Fev shirt. can't agree about allan McMahon though, his length of the field chase and tackle on widnes winger David Bently was breathtaking.

what the devil's going on with the website, what a mess.

<br /><br /><br /> Maureen, you say that as if it were a good thing.

<br /><br /><br /> talk about reaping what you sow.

<br /><br /><br /> i've seen this lad play fullback Bob, and believe me, he's the real McCoy.

sorry bob, i want lisnin. could you say that again.

<br /><br /><br /> you're not bad Robin, nobody beats you to the burger bar.

they had a massive pack and we took them on. thought Dickens and Tonks escpecially, ran themselves into the the ground. hearts like lions these lads.