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Meet the owners The Cougars are back

I played the following season and still have a pair of the blue shorts with castlemain 4X on them. My pants are now bigger

Agh, duplicating as this ended up at bottom on previous page Some great points made, I'm struggling to know which way is best as arguments on each side are strong and convincing Would really appreciate if you could copy and paste your thoughts onto the YouTube comments section, oddly enough comments and thumbs up or down all increase the video engagement score far more than views and this helps push it up the searches So pls leave a comment there, subscribe and like of you can. More engagement hopefully encourages more clubs to get in touch. And for those who may not have seen the link a few pages ago.

Some great points made, I'm struggling to know which way is best as arguments on each side are strong and convincing Would really appreciate if you could copy and paste your thoughts onto the YouTube comments section, oddly enough comments and thumbs up or down all increase the video engagement score far more than views and this helps push it up the searches So pls leave a comment there, subscribe and like of you can. More engagement hopefully encourages more clubs to get in touch

I always though the aim was to have more than 12 teams in the top league. So if many in tier two become grading A more than one team could go up. So P/R is only whilst we improve grades and increase the amount of 'A's. Once we have 16 in tire one automatic P/R will stop. It's unlikely we will get 16 grade As anytime soon

BREAKING NEWS The Dockhouse Rugby Show can confirm the following: RFL Reach Out to Keighley Cougars regarding IMG Proposals Following the latest IMG "Reimaging Rugby League" meeting in Huddersfield, the RFL have reached out to Ryan and Kaue to listen and understand the very well publicised concerns regarding the IMG proposals. Chair of the RFL, Simon Johnson met with Ryan and Kaue in central London on Tuesday spending 4 hours in discussions. Ryan said "The meeting was largely positive. Simon listened to our scepticism and wants to reach a unified position where all clubs can agree to a restructure" On behalf of the RFL, Simon Johnson agreed to feedback to IMG the concerns and proposals of the Keighley Cougars. Ryan said "Our key points are that promotion and relegation should be on a 2 up, 2 down model. We tentatively agree that only category A and category B clubs should be in Super League, but that there should not be sub-grading within the A and B categories. We will continue to express our stance on the situation and of course update our fans in due course". Incase you missed it here is our interview with Ryan and Kaue in which they discuss how they felt during and after The IMG proposals meeting

It's not called road tax Cyclist haven't your correct but often people ask why, emissions is another reason why

Road tax doesn't pay for the roads in told, that's a different pot It's charged due to emissions, hence cyclists not having to pay. Issue with more tax on fuel is working class who have to travel for work, you make it more expensive whilst rich people with huge cars get then cheaper running costs

We've started a hall of fame series, First two up now, will be adding to this soon.

Difficult to understand the distances between these areas unless you've actual been down there and traveled between them. I always think I'm almost there when I get to Exeter when in reality I'm possibly not even half way time wise.

These are pretty much the same points you made before, I don't agree with much of what you've said, it just seems like hindsight criticism to me. I've nothing else to add that I haven't said before so will have to agree to disagree. Otherwise it will fill this thread with a circular argument. Good luck to Cornwall I hope they are a success, even if not I look forward to watching rugby there whilst it lasts. I do know people in that area who really like RL through watching on TV, whether it's enough to generate a decent crowd is to be seen, I hope so but not yet convinced.

It wasn't extra investment money, it's a straw man argument when you present it that way. What is this strategic plan, honest question, it's easy to say after the event someone got it wrong but what is this strategic plan? Who funds it, where do you take money from to focus it elsewhere etc. Etc. 30 years of a development officer wouldn't work without all other aspects being covered. How would you address this? Do you still believe this is good on its own? You haven't addressed these points but have criticized someone else's efforts, people trying to spread our great game need our support. Such as Cornwall, even if it doesn't work out I wish to enjoy it whilst it's here. Continually saying "Strategic plan" isn't addressing these points, all due respect but this just feels like avoidance by continually saying it, there's no substance. Fact is any new team is very difficult and expensive to develop in a new area, particularly when it's a new sport with a northern image. If we have people giving it a go I'm right behind them, it costing the RFL no more than any other team. Personally I wouldn't have voted for a Cornwall team, due to running costs for other L1 clubs, but the person investing wanted it there and they are the ones funding it so I get behind it. Now teams in L1 get very very little money, there's little RFL investment, are you comfortable with this as the cost is minimal and therefore so is the 'wastage' should they collapse as a club?

Not at all, your critisising the efforts of expansion and suggesting central funding has been wasted due to nothing to show. There was entertaining rugby played during that time by those teams, just the same money and same entertainment as teams in the heartlands, so how was it wasted? And you did suggest paying a development officer for 30 years, reasonable to ask you how this would actually work without any other infastructure If it was a different extra pot of money you would have a point, but this wasn't an expansion pot of cash, it was yearly funding the same as the other teams. Keep dropping teams because they add nothing or little chance of long term SL ambitions will leave the other clubs with fewer teams to play. What is this great strategic plan everyone tells me about? I'm all ears, until then I'll support the efforts of those who actually trying to expand the game, I'd rather they try and fail rather than continually demand a strategic plan, yet do nothing.

What does this strategic plan look like? It's mentioned a lot but up until now all I've seen is employer a development officer for 30 years.

1 development officer could do what without other funds? Only so much one employed person can do. I fear people would ask the same question after 30 years, what do we have to show for that, throwing a development officer in without a clear strategy, youth set up or professional club was never going to work... Etc....etc....

Worth noting that all the other established clubs had the same money(central funding), we can ask the question what do they have to show for it, have they developed from before that funding? Lots of people mention wanting a strategy, what is that strategy though? £100,000 on grass roots wouldn't go that far and with no professional club how would it be sustainable? The harsh reality is, to create a new club in an area requires lots of money over a sustained period of time with little to no chance of return for many years. This is also probably the case for many established clubs in L1 also. A solid strategy would be time consuming and costly to create and identify many things needed that we simply don't have or cannot create quickly and easily. The model I Iike is Newcastle and probably the best approach to expansion. We are highly unlikely to get anyone or enough money for this sustained investment so have to take the opportunities we get and try to make them work. More checks are made than people realise from the RFL but again you can have as many strategies as you like but without someone pumping in cash for decades we won't magically get any new club in SL and sustainable with a youth pathway anytime soon, regardless of the efforts from the RFL. If the central funding hadn't gone to those clubs then which? Other new clubs somewhere else, or double money to the same clubs in the heartlands halving your expansion efforts? There is no perfect solution. So Toronto, Cornwall, Wales Midlands etc. Do represent expansion and get my full support even if I accept they may not be around forever.