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If that is right then they would lose 0.5pts like you say, gain 1pt for the facilities and gain at least 0.3 points on utilisation giving them enough points for the A grade. For Fax it does not make any difference really. Without the upgrades we could never get enough points and we are a few years off having a decent set of finances that would take us somewhere near to even thinking about SL.

I got out sarcasmed.

Bang on and its even worse in the girls game at the moment with the Super League acadamies padding out their squads at the expense of the community game. At least 3 community teams have folded this season because SL teams have taken players for their acadamies and won't let them play for their community teams as well. Personally I would sack off the U19 stuff and have regional talent hubs that play a select number of games against each other and offer more support to community clubs who actually coach and produce the players.

You wouldn't think so but I see it happen a lot, especially from some coaches. I totally agree with this and I go as far to say the same for the kids that you know are going to "make it". I don't think there is a better way to express an everyone matters view point than having your most talented player at that time on the sidelines during games just like everyone else. Our game would be so much better for it and I would bet good money that we would produce better and a larger number of players for the top levels if this was enforced.

If you just dropped the ball at the play the ball it would still be a knock on. The only way that would turn in to a penalty if it were hands in that caused the knock on. There would be some discretion but the ref would need to think that the offending player somehow caused the knock on.

I think the right thing to have done would have been to keep Fev in there who have been investing in their womens team but yeah, outside of Bradford, Cas, Oulton who are not allowed, every team in the Championship would be fairing better. They would all still be bottom though and getting big scores on them apart from Fev or London who could possibly be competitive in a few games and would likely have had better players come to them if they were in there.

Sorry, my attempt at sarcasm surrounding all the IMG stuff. The reality is that if the Giants did move to the Shay to guarentee SL status then its just another club gaming the system.

The unequal playing time problem has to some extent been caused by the RFL making younger and younger leagues competitive. I think from a girls point of view they went to U13's this season and I know for a fact there are some teams taking the winning of these leagues as been the be all and end all and there are some players getting 5 or 10 minutes a game. At those ages it needs sorting and for me all the way through the juniors this should be enforced.

By hard I mean impossible. Any ground that is a public right of way you just cant do it. This is why at clubs that would have this problem it needs to be nipped in the bud straight away before it escalates.

Ive had a shocker. Im quitting. Till next week.

As Daz says, the talk is of Davy bringing the Shay up to standard to get full points. They don't get full 1.5 points at the moment at the JSS and Im not sure what you say about catchment area is correct either. The whole idea of the Shay move is to take them over 15 points and secure SL while they sort a new stadium. If that wasn't the case they may as well stay at the current stadium until a new one is sorted.

Smart play by Saints. This goes back to the game the other week where people were saying a team should have challenged but there was no stoppage so sometimes you have to create your own.

Hard to enforce it at a lot of grounds though.

In my opinion they are a league 1 team playing in Super League. I think even Cas and Bradford would beat them.

There is also now the added threat that 2 clubs could overtake them for a Super League spot this time round unless they can pick up some extra points and a move to the Shay would guarentee them that spot by getting them over that 15 point mark. Exciting isn't it?

Another is Lock Lane U13's girls after ugly events in a game against Drighlington.

Saw this yesterday in a amateur game in Huddersfield yesterday and my initial reaction was it should have been a yellow card after the first 10m penalty rather than move the team 10m again. Bearing in mind the game had already seen 1 yellow card and 2 red cards for dissent I thought not getting a card out for that was quite odd.

Isn't there a forum for stuff like this?

Its sport, I also hear the crowd get a bit riled when he goes in with a shot that was a bit grubby. Sport isn't meant to be played in silence, well ours certainly isn't. Again though, where do we draw the line? I think the gobby cow behind the kicker and fans running down the touchline, if that has happened, is too much along with the scenes after the game which are totally unacceptable. Where is that line? To me the 8 is pumped and he is feeding off the crowd emotion, I love that and nobody can convince me otherwise.

Yeah but it would be more if they were still allowed to just make figures up........

Again if we didn't know what had happened in the other clips I can't see the majority of people having any problem with this. To me this is one set of fans cheering a tackle bust and then the other set of fans cheering the work from the 8. I think people are losing the plot saying this in isolation is not acceptable.

Its usually a longer term problem that never got nipped in the bud early doors. As mentioned, imagine been a game day manager and trying to sort that mess out. That has to be called out early when its only 1 or 2 people doing it in earlier age groups, afterall its usually family and friends that are watching these games, its not like its people who are not known to the clubs. Ive still not changed my view from above, some of these scenes are despicable but the clip of the game itself that was posted, I have no real problem with. I don't think our game is designed to be played in silence and I can guarentee even if there was some heckling, it won't be worse than what is said between players at that age group.

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I disagree 100% then.

I'd say football is far worse unless I am misunderstanding what you are saying in the last part.