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I had a rest and missed you too much 'arry ! The beeb is an empty pocket that many RL fans keep returning too, I think they're looking for an Uncle Joe's mintball!

I've searched all the coverage of this, been on every forum and site I can find and I know there'll be another downside to this that no one's thought of. Just give me me a little while everyone, I won't be long. There's got to be something in here somewhere .......

That's the spirit! This is what made Britain Great and gave us those borders we're not happy with! Come on Vera, "There'll always be an England While there's a busy street Wherever there's a turning wheel A million marching feet Red, white and blue What does it mean to you? Surely you're proud Shout it loud Britons awake! The Empire too We can depend on you Freedom remains These are the chains Nothing can break There'll always be an England And England shall be free If England means as much to you As England means to me"

I was wondering where that you're all doomed sandwich board guy who used to be outside the Willows on Game night had gone.

I think you've confused my reacting to your post with me arguing with your post. There were themes on here of franchising, bigger cities and all wrapped up with grading and my comments were about them. Your ideas about the lack of sufficient monies in RL areas feeds into this quite clearly. To answer your question, "Can it be done properly? " Of course it can but the implications for outcomes are obvious which is what I wanted to point out.

Only if and until there are riots in the street will that alter in any way and we don't want to frighten the two choices of right leaning government do we? There's alot in what you say but the leap between where we are now and all these wonderful bigger and richer towns and cities is a bit more involved than doing a moonlit! If the ambition for this is the U S model of franchise as moveable feasts where if you dislike the town you're in you move somewhere else that's truly sad. If there are RL fans who'd prefer to lose Wakey but gain Leicester that's sadder. I don't believe such a transformation is possible in only twelve years. If we're so unbothered about those clubs and their fans that we don't mind if we lose them altogether then we're a sport that's not even worth saving in the first place.

Standing out from the crowd, it's the only way to fly!

Changing minds ! That's the sort of reckless idea that cause that meeting at The George and look where that led!

Then we'll only have ourselves to blame then, won't we?

It is interesting how responses to this follow a pattern, however, here's what I have to say: "the truth is we’ve nearly run out of road" do not sound positive." no it doesn't! "You might want to bury your head in the sand over quotes like these and pretend everything is fine" I'm not! "Indiscriminate positivity is just delusion" I think the basic tenor of my argument is more cynical than upbeat and criticising interminable negativity is not the same as indiscriminate positivity. Not many people know that! Also no one suggested you should join in, just don't expect applause for your efforts in the opposite direction.

What happened to the Bradford thread ? Which one you'll need to be more specific if you want us to refer to number one or the other 7894!

I just posted this elsewhere but it's just as relevant here, "For some people the idea of having TGG and something positive in the same sentence is just a bridge too far, isn't it?"

For some the idea of having TGG and something positive in the same sentence is just a bridge too far, isn't it?

It's my own fault for taking you off ignore, be assured I won't bother you again as I'm too busy being a TGG visionary! By the way well done SRD for leading the way and any club with a reasonably similar following can do the same and I hope you all will! And obviously never ever listen to the thousands of naysayers, critics and similar ne'erdowells who'd love to keep your club in it's place; rob the chuffin BoE if you have too!

Well done you! In a country as corrupt, bent, biased and altogether stupid as this one you want an RL that remains untainted and poor so you can criticse clubs for making an effort or not doing things the way you'd like. Wider - game visionary?, be your age dboy!

All a bit like youth and the young .... it simply illustrates cash is wasted on the rich.

No there is no maybe about this idea, you spotted the fatal flaw an idea rich in hope and imagination and low on realism and achievability. It has as much chance of realisation as a Kier Starmer promise or the Tories investing in infrastructure or bringing profits down.

The world turned upside down!

Big cities the El Dorado of contemporary RL nonsense. It's just beyond the next horizon everyone! And if this is truly the be all and end all of IMG's strategy, prepare to be disappointed.

No doubt RL has no rights to the name so the story will end with a TGG union apologist stating the story ends there.

I'm concerned about every RL club and wish them all well. And beyond this I've said I don't care how they all obtain their money, and this seems one of the less harmful and more acceptable ways to achieve their goals. Cushty? And my posts earlier show no signs of being incorrect, invalid or mistaken in any way.

It's a family of embarassing uncles at the wedding and old bread at the party! What I asked was where do you draw the line between one thing and the other. Clearly people don't see any difference. Which, I suppose, explains why being on't'interweb is so positive all the time.

Sorry, but what in my post, didn't draw this distinction?

So, where do you draw the line between good natured banter, essential and understandable fan rivalry and wishing fellow fans and clubs nothing but harm? It seems to me some fans would only be happy if RL was left with their own and 6-7 others so there'd be someone to play! Except it's already been invented, it's called Subbuteo! so has this "wishing nothing but harm" It's called social media.