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Just remember you heard it here first! and Not really, but thanks for the offer.

Yes we never truly went over to the funny foreign measuring system.

In England at this period of time that would be the equivalent ot whatever is rarer than hens' teeth! The article in question however is about our sport and raises perfectly valid questions that we'd all like answers to. From the sport's point of view though we've been beggars and choosers and sadly we don't have a queue of influencers and celebrities willing to do the hard yards and unfortunately many are simply chancers. If some posts on here are anything to go by it's hard to see how we can expect anything else, to be honest.

They seem to have made huge efforts in this regard and slow as it is just shows what hard work it is in that neck of the woods. Came back to this with another quote "Over 400 investors. It'll be a real achievement if we can get to 1,000 investors." These are the signs of ambition, involvement and all you'd want from fans being connected to a club. And good IMG fodder too!

I think maybe we should all read the admin post on abusive etc posts. There's far too much of this sort of rubbish on here and from top to bottom no one is exempt from criticism on this issue.

It was an "if" Leonard and really just for those who keep posting dire doom messages and little else. Being a fan run club is a dicey gamble and if it comes off will be quite an achievement and if they get enough backing it could prove to be the making of their aspirations and ambitions. It's fascinating that among other clubs on here SRD have been bashed for years for lacking ambition and now it's a case of curbing them. Sounds very much like a lose lose job to me.

I am unsure why you're taking the time and making the effort here but I do applaud you for trying. As an aside I do wonder if the Bulls had followed a similar route how that story might have worked out though I think that might be wishful thinking because I want all our clubs to be okay and even do well. I know, silly isn't it!

I'm not sure why this thread should cause concern good on the Bulls, I hope it works out.

In the red, end of discussion.

Then it's no good complaining we're a small sport because like it or not that's a small sport's outlook. Sadly just as evident in the NRL. It is also why vichy looks stronger, more professional and more attractive irrespective of the truth behind those things.

No we keep picking people with busy lives when we need someone who will go all out, appear anywhere and everywhere and broadcast the cause ... we're not a sport that can afford fripperies!

It's an odd feeling for me generally on here. When I think of my beliefs about opinions and expressing them, and my adherence to RL as a sport and it's fans as, for want of a better phrase "my People", to arrive at a point where I simply don't see the point of engaging in any meaningful way with many of them. I know there's a tendency for all RL fans to be doom and gloom at times and to be ultra-negative the other 50% but it just gets a bit waring and depressing to be honest. To all intents and purposes, whatever else SRD as a club, are up to, their innovation in this case will answer many of the points IMG have raised about the sport. If SRD do go out of business after their efforts so be it; At least they won't have died without trying. And to be frank why should it bother anyone who isn't an SRD fan if they do try and then become defunct? It could also be argued that IMG's changes may see off quite a few clubs as it does sound like a downsizing and cost cutting exercise in the best management traditions. So to those who don't get a response from me to their questions it's because you're on mute.

More than a Hull fan with a team about to beat Wigan! Have you checked your facts?

Nah Hull all the way!

Cas win on this one.

I think that's obvious in so many ways Griff but if you take a look at Devil Talk you will see SRD fans energised and doing their bit and for all RL clubs that can only be a good change. I have a feeling though I can't say for certain that this increasing SRD's footprint and that's not too bad a difference. Apparently again I can't confirm but 400 people and groups now own shares in the Red devils and that seems a reasonable innovation. There's probably quite a bit more but you'd have to ask the right people to find out what they are.

Going for KR at home and Hudds need to be on the money to win this one.

You'd thinks Saints but calç i ana al tribal les Dracs!

Wakey by a mile or two for this match; come on Trin you can do it!

This is a quote "Over 400 Investors now in the Salford Red Devils RLFC Community Share Scheme......" it's for those who wish SRD and TGG well and also those who applaud efforts to change things.

Before his decline, which the Beeb were happy to hide because RL wasn't imprtant enough, Eddie Waring was a great commentator. It shows how much our tastes differ though I blame those commentators for me not getting to like cricket for years.

Ooooooh get you! obfuscate. And to think all this time I didn't realise we had The Rt Hon Jacob Rees-Mogg MP in da house! Okay, Do we need forums? .... it a tough one ! Philosophically I suppose it depends what you mean by forum and should also include some discussion of the word NEED. And do forums with all their problems and issues like lack of agreement or the inability to come to any kind of conclusion or even accord or unity serve any purpose other than airing grievances ? In a purely utilitarian sense I think it's good that people at least feel they're communicating, part of a shared community and have shared ideas and goals that go with that, so don't feel lonely and yet manage to improve their typing skills. And do we categorically believe that agreement or shared ideas or goals are in themselves "good" things? In the end like three year olds and Smarties when we say we need forums what we really mean is we want them not that we need them. I hope that clears it up for you, Jacob.

This may be taken as political (it isn't), but aren't some of the main donors to mainstream parties gambling concerns? If so real regulation of it, online or anywhere, seems either unlikely or has every chance of being very limited. I see that as a bit of a concern and certainly worth looking into. I suppose there's not much point though as there won't be any consequences if it is the case. I think that's the way it all works.

I liked that article Martyn It's hard to judge but: knowledgable without being too technical, Being able to make any game sound better than it is, Humour bags of it without cruelty, Knowing the names of the players involved at that moment, Never treat your audience like they don't understand, Avoid the obvious & never repeat yourself. Sor of the opposite of a pundit really! Why on earth RL fans would go straight for bashing one of our commentators or refering to some in another sport is beyond me. Same as with refs you have to have them and fans are desperate to criticise them I suppose!

That's a bold assumption Keith, people wanting to know stuff before they post next you'll be asking them to think before they type!