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  1. I don't think you're correct on that one Eddie expressing it was more common place and accepted the racism itslf was not and never has been though our sport has to be at the vanguard of anti racism and prejudice. It has been so in the past but more of an effort is needed now.They knew perfectly well what they were up to and that it was wrong, they weren't stupid or ignorant. The past is a time period not a defense approach. I wouldn't change the names for the sake of it and if it's true that the only supporting evidence is one paragraph that would be skimpy to say the least. I have said what I believe one of the mission statements should be from the New Museum saying no to prejudice and racism means being multi levelled and widespread. When it honours BAME sportsmen/athletes from our past it honours our history as well as those individuals. In any case I'll take my leave of you now bfore I'm shown the door ...... again. Stay well everyone.
  2. The reasons for changing the names would have to have real substance to them. This is not the same as proper recognition of our players and officials from different parts of our community. Nor is it proper recognition of what the sport has been capable of when so much and so many around didn't seem so capable of anything like the same kind of actions. The argument, it seems to me, that as players and officials pass out of living memory so their awards and trophies are supposed to disappear is as hollow as it sounds. The WC and the Museum at the George are classic moments and events where we can recognise all of the above.
  3. Moove you need to read around and not be so touchy old son. I think a look into a special permanent BAME exhibit at the George would be a good move as well, with a section on Fijians, Maoris etc etc. I never thought Harry Sunderland was a Colston or Robert E Lee figure by the way but if true it's something that must be considered and discussed even on this forum.
  4. Moove you need to read round a bit. https://forty20.news/calls-to-rename-harry-sunderland-trophy/ Making our game more representative of its history and the modern world it would be a good start to name Trophies after as many representative groups from our game as possible.
  5. Thanks for that then it needs to be changed and will be a marker and reasonable start.
  6. The calls to rename the Harry Sunderland Trophy are as silly as it gets. Finding ways to celebrate the history of RL in terms BLM and BAME important figures in the game is one thing simply replacing the ones recognised so far with others is a bit silly. Unless Harry Sunderland himself had a history of prejudice or racism that we've kept hidden all these years? A look at all the firsts for RL as a sport and how we led the way in all sorts of directions would help but action today is needed as well. Mind you a bit of a constant reminder for the terraces and in development terms wouldn't go amiss.
  7. Since lockdown our food/cooking has gone up a notch ( it was already really good ) and a lot of this has been to do with looking at what's in the larder & fridge and moving on from there. Of course this is also why we're suffering from covid weight as well as covid hair. Ultimately our lack of trust in the government may be overcome by the confidence we have in the people who cut our hair etc but our tendency is to trust no one and so far the evidence is backing us up. And covid food seems to be the only real success.
  8. "The only thing I regret about my past is the length of it. If I had to live my life again I'd make all the same mistakes - only sooner." Tallulah Bankhead
  9. I've finished here but notices you'd replied so I thought it'd only be polite to respond. The point was about travel and you moved it to the races and the football both would have included travel and lots from Spain in particular. There were putative reasons why all this was not stopped and most was turly inspired nonsense. I cannot say much more than that on this. Stay safe & keep well Russ
  10. RL journalists have faults but they are one of the strengths of the sport mostly because when we were let down and ignored by the laughably termed "national" papers they created a world of our own where we could read what they wrote and include them in the list of things to be disagreeable about, convince ourselves they're as wrong as refs, as questionable as the RFL & as villainous as opposition players. What more could we ask? Actually I think that might be a good post to finish completely.
  11. I can't imagine that's correct SL everyone has been aware that travel was one of the problems when it came to spreading Covid, probably just as crucial as footballl matches and race meetings. Do you think they might have given you the rounds of the kitchen for some other reason?
  12. Harry, Harry "Meaningful Expansion" is just a meaningless phrase, a ghost people like to dig up even though we've no idea what it looks like. In some scenarios it looks it appears to be years of amateur messing around with no way to progress and getting leathered whenever they meet anyone even half way decent but making a nice if irrelevant appearance being trounced in a WC qualifier, but it doesn't disturb the UK equilibrium, so all in all the perfect model.
  13. One other TGG one and sort of this one, soon to join two lefty ones ( learned to do that on a forum)
  14. I was looking for some music from the forties and there was Al Jolson with whole army of blacked up singers like it wasn't enough one fool doing it.
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